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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:11:22 -0700, "Marc J. Nelson"
A. Renault
four points:
one, who exactly is/are, "Reliable sources." This is suspect because I
don't know who these sources are, so I don't know if they are reliable.
In my position I am the third person in the line of information. The
story was passed from Papy to this Reliable source to SRN to me. After
3 or four passes things can change. Think about it: if someone says, "A
friend of a friend of a friend told me XX," does that mean much?
two, even if Papy has changed their mind, they can change it back. We
all know that in the comp industry what is said one day, even if a
company means it, can change the next.
three, we already knew that work on CART2 wound not begin untill N3 was
done, so this message is not anything new anyway. If this remains the
plan its still not a problem b/c after GPL and N3 Papy will have done 2
sims with the current physics model, so *** a third together in
little time should not be a problem.
four, they still have the liscense, and will continue to untill 2000+
Just for the record, I was looking foward to an ICR3 based on GPL also
(Just in case Papyrus is reading this...). Can we e-mail someone there
to change their minds?
John
>yep!!
George Sandman
BUMMER, of a major classification!!
I'd rather see CART than NASCAR3.
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: I'd rather see CART than NASCAR3.
yep!!
Agreed.
Don
I'll answer as best I can...
> four points:
> one, who exactly is/are, "Reliable sources." This is suspect because I
> don't know who these sources are, so I don't know if they are reliable.
Also, if I were to post the originator's name, then don't you think
Papy might be a little more than concerned? ;)
This is true for nearly everything in verbal communications, and I'm
sure this person didn't get an official Papy memo on the subject. None-
theless, I simply posted the "gist" of the report, saying that the
project has been canned, shelved, scrapped, etc. The rest of the post
from me was obvious conjecture, as I used "may have been due..." rather
than "this is the reason why, folks..." I was attempting to reason-out
why they made this decision, since I know them (Papyrus) to be
die_in_the_wool gearheads. I truly believe that if they had unlimited
resources and funding, that we would see many other forms of racing,
as well as strategy_game_add_ons like the ill-fated N2 Manager.
This is true. As one Papyrus employee told me, "it ain't over 'til it's
over."
The plan was not to even begin work on it, that the CART thingy is dead
(in any current or future form) from the drawing boards of the Papy sim
machine. Company's generally don't change their minds overnight tho,
and tend to plan in either 6-month or 1-year down_the_road. This would
mean that a future CART title is unlikely after N3, but doesn't mean
that they can't do it after a following title, or perhaps simply re-
light the CART-flame for a X-mas/Spring '99 date.
Having the license doesn't mean that a title is eminent...What it means
is that they're getting smarter, and aren't about to let others steal_
their_lunch for future rights.
Yellow Journalism it isn't.
Cheers!
Marc
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> >: I'd rather see CART than NASCAR3.
> >yep!!
> I agree 100%
> George Sandman
PS - this could be the longest thread in ras history!
PSS - if true, Geoff Crammond must be rubbing his hands together!
PSSS - next, "Crammond scraps GP3"?????????
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> > four, they still have the liscense, and will continue to untill 2000+
> Having the license doesn't mean that a title is eminent...What it means
> is that they're getting smarter, and aren't about to let others steal_
> their_lunch for future rights.
They are lucky, I'm already ***ed to GPL...
l8er
ronny
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"Need" it?
Hardly likely.....I really need another quality racing simulation like a
hole in the head, for crying out loud! There aren't enough hours in the
day as it is without having to find more for such things as GPL, then
NASCAR3, ICR3/CART2 and GP3.
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Tell you what Papyrus, How about turning CART 3 into a "linux" project?
If you are short of resources, there are some cracker artists out here
in r.a.s. land (see the enhanced ICR2 Rendition tracks and the car
sets), there are some cracker "crackers" out there see the enhancements
for NASCAR2 from the pits. There are even some cracker AI enhancers out
there. Alot of this work could be done with out anyone getting the
whole package in developement (except for the AI stuff). Alot of the
art work and 3do stuff could be done by farming it out to those who have
been supplying enhancements all along without the code ever leaving Papy
headquarters. That could save them a nickle or two....
Yeh, I know, it's a pipe dream, but it could be doable. Papy needs the
help, but alot of the really talented people are already employed or
have roots else where in the world. Else we all would have answered
their call for assistance by moving to Massachusetts. But we are
devoted to racing sims just like the "real" employess of Papyrus.
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> > Please Papy, we need ICR3!
> "Need" it?
> Hardly likely.....I really need another quality racing simulation like a
> hole in the head, for crying out loud! There aren't enough hours in the
> day as it is without having to find more for such things as GPL, then
> NASCAR3, ICR3/CART2 and GP3.
Your preferences just differ with mine: I drive N2 and GPL now, because
they are great, but if there's a great CART sim, it will take all my
racing
time...
l8er
ronny
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