rec.autos.simulators

by **wsiegle** » Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I like my Monster 3D.... you might be able to get a good price on one

by **Doug Bur** » Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:00:00

> I have a P200 (non MMX) 32MB RAM and a cirrus logic 2mb video card. I
> want to buy a 3D Card. But which one?

be a screamer. On the bargain front, you should be able to pick up a
Diamond Monster 3d for a song .. see http://www.pricewatch.com for some
pricing comparisions ...

BTW, I have a DM3D and love it ..

Doug

by **Jim Hieber** » Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:00:00

> > I have a P200 (non MMX) 32MB RAM and a cirrus logic 2mb video card. I
> > want to buy a 3D Card. But which one?

> be a screamer. On the bargain front, you should be able to pick up a
> Diamond Monster 3d for a song .. see http://www.pricewatch.com for some
> pricing comparisions ...

> BTW, I have a DM3D and love it ..

> Doug

I bought a DM3D, and tried to run it with a Rendition Intense 3D 100.
All the software/drivers installed properly, and the DirectX control
panel said that the 3dfx drivers were certified. When I start CART:PR,
everything's cool until it drops you in the car. At this point, my
machine locks up. Does the same thing for the 3dfx games/demos that
come with the card.

The DM3D box was missing the pass-thru cable (opened box = discount
at Best Buy) so I had 'em throw in a monitor extension cable.

Any thoughts out there?

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* St. Paul, MN
* "Many are cold, few are frozen"
* (Correct reply-to address to reply.)

by **Stev** » Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:00:00

get the monster or the orchid righteous. both have same performance so just
buy the one that is cheaper at your computer store.

SS

> > I have a P200 (non MMX) 32MB RAM and a cirrus logic 2mb video card. I
> > want to buy a 3D Card. But which one?

> be a screamer. On the bargain front, you should be able to pick up a
> Diamond Monster 3d for a song .. see http://www.pricewatch.com for some
> pricing comparisions ...

> BTW, I have a DM3D and love it ..

> Doug

by **Doug Bur** » Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:00:00

> > > I have a P200 (non MMX) 32MB RAM and a cirrus logic 2mb video card. I
> > > want to buy a 3D Card. But which one?

> > be a screamer. On the bargain front, you should be able to pick up a
> > Diamond Monster 3d for a song .. see http://www.pricewatch.com for some
> > pricing comparisions ...

> > BTW, I have a DM3D and love it ..

> > Doug

> I bought a DM3D, and tried to run it with a Rendition Intense 3D 100.
> All the software/drivers installed properly, and the DirectX control
> panel said that the 3dfx drivers were certified. When I start CART:PR,
> everything's cool until it drops you in the car. At this point, my
> machine locks up. Does the same thing for the 3dfx games/demos that
> come with the card.

> The DM3D box was missing the pass-thru cable (opened box = discount
> at Best Buy) so I had 'em throw in a monitor extension cable.

> Any thoughts out there?

> --
> * ------------------------------------

> * St. Paul, MN
> * "Many are cold, few are frozen"
> * (Correct reply-to address to reply.)

Well for starters, I'd try getting the correct patch cable -- you never
know, something electrical (w/the cable) could be a problem... Maybe
the cable you have has more or less resistance or maybe it's got a
different type of shielding or maybe the length of the cable affects it
...

You can call Diamond at 800-468-5846 -- Select option 3 (you don't want
tech support, you want to speak to a customer service rep -- they can
just send you the cable)...

Good luck !

Doug

by **Chris Sha** » Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:00:00

> > I have a P200 (non MMX) 32MB RAM and a cirrus logic 2mb video card. I
> > want to buy a 3D Card. But which one?

> be a screamer. On the bargain front, you should be able to pick up a
> Diamond Monster 3d for a song .. see http://www.pricewatch.com for some
> pricing comparisions ...
> BTW, I have a DM3D and love it ..
> Doug

Just go for anything with the VOODOO chipset init! that is the 3fdx standard.
Go for VOODOO and you wont go wrong i also have diamond monster 3d
and its great.

--
Chris Shaw,
The New White Wriggler?!

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/newriggler

by **adria** » Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:00:00

are the direct 3d modes in games like f1rs as smooth as the native 3dfx
modes?
help please
thankyou,
tedrick

by **Doug Bur** » Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:00:00

> are the direct 3d modes in games like f1rs as smooth as the native 3dfx
> modes?
> help please
> thankyou,
> tedrick

I can't speak of F1RS ... But normally, no .. It's well known and
documented that D3D is very "heavy" and robs performance vs programming
in GLIDE or even for Open GL ... It's also apparantely much more
difficult (I wouldn't know personally, have compiled anything except a
sub sandwich in a few years). I read once where it took a progammer
over 1000 lines of code using d3d to do something that they could do in
about 8 lines of code under GLIDE ...

So you can see why it would be slower.

Doug