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RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

Ed Solhei

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Ed Solhei » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:43:18

Hiya...

As much as I hope this is untrue and wrong... I've heard things about the
Rally Thropy "preview" version that got me worrying...

I was *really* looking forward to this... but now I heard things from GPL
racers thats seen the *alpha* version - that make think of SOS'37 and
shiver!!

A few quotes:

"Yesterday I saw a preview version of that new game  "Rally Trophy" in
action. The designers call it the  most realistic racing game to date.
- HAH!!!!
This is just a piece of real junk!!! "

"....Try the demo if they are brave enough to publish  one before release.
I can promise total disappointment if you expect  a simulation of real life
physics... "

Please, *please*  say it aint so!!

ed_

Mikkel Gram-Hanse

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Mikkel Gram-Hanse » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:04:24


I ain't so !

Mikkel

Ilari Lehtine

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Ilari Lehtine » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:05:56

Interesting, all the previewers I've heard of so far have only praised the
physics. Where did you hear this from? We're VERY curious :-)

-Ilari


himrli..

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by himrli.. » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:06:30

Just a couple points.

There are those of us who happen to enjoy Spirit
of Speed.  I understand this is a
political/religious issue and I am going to say no
more about it...at least not in this post.  <g>

Then there is the matter of these "GPL racers" you
quote.  Has there ever been any piece of code,
with the possible exception of N4, that has earned
anything but contempt from the more rabid fans of
GPL?  Or, more mildly, a dismissive "It's no GPL."
And exactly where did these "GPL racers" see this
alpha version of Rally Trophy?  Who are these
guys?

There is nothing more potentially destructive than
the power of misplaced expectation.  Unfulfilled,
expectation is the mother of disappointment.
Rather than jumping on the rumor wagon, let's just
see what Rally Trophy turns out to be.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:43:18 +0200, "Ed Solheim"


>Hiya...

>As much as I hope this is untrue and wrong... I've heard things about the
>Rally Thropy "preview" version that got me worrying...

>I was *really* looking forward to this... but now I heard things from GPL
>racers thats seen the *alpha* version - that make think of SOS'37 and
>shiver!!

>A few quotes:

>"Yesterday I saw a preview version of that new game  "Rally Trophy" in
>action. The designers call it the  most realistic racing game to date.
>- HAH!!!!
>This is just a piece of real junk!!! "

>"....Try the demo if they are brave enough to publish  one before release.
>I can promise total disappointment if you expect  a simulation of real life
>physics... "

>Please, *please*  say it aint so!!

>ed_

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....
Olav K. Malm

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Olav K. Malm » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:34:50


> Just a couple points.

> There are those of us who happen to enjoy Spirit
> of Speed.  I understand this is a
> political/religious issue and I am going to say no
> more about it...at least not in this post.  <g>

> Then there is the matter of these "GPL racers" you
> quote.  Has there ever been any piece of code,
> with the possible exception of N4, that has earned
> anything but contempt from the more rabid fans of
> GPL?  Or, more mildly, a dismissive "It's no GPL."
> And exactly where did these "GPL racers" see this
> alpha version of Rally Trophy?  Who are these
> guys?

Still waiting for an answer to the last question. But I have no reason
to doubt the person in question on his credibilty and integrity. I've
raced him in GPL and N4 the last two years. However, I find it a bit
odd that all the sites who has previewed RT says the opposite, sites I
also rate very high on their opinions.

I'm not jumping anything, but I definately want to try a demo first. :)

--
Olav K. Malmin
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Ilari Lehtine

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Ilari Lehtine » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:51:14

Ask him for some backing - why did he feel the physics were a total
disappointment and why it was a "piece of real junk" in general? And where
did he see the preview version - was it the real press preview version? To
me that ranting sounded like a troll, nothing more.

-Ilari



Kevin Clar

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Kevin Clar » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:48:09


> Ask him for some backing - why did he feel the physics were a total
> disappointment and why it was a "piece of real junk" in general?

Let's face it, every game ever released and all those yet to be, get
their fair share of 'it rocks' and 'it sucks' posts.

I'd stake money on even the great GPL having had some 'it sucks' posts
when the demo first came out.

Pinch of salt until you actually get to play it yourself.

Kev

Ed Solhei

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Ed Solhei » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:51:26

I'm trying my best to get some more information / verification on this...

The best thing ofcourse would be to get a test drive... i could even write a
few words about it :-)))

Anyway.. I really want RT to be good... it looks good and model  an era I
like.

So here's to hoping the  "rumours" are unjustified!

ed_

Mikkel Gram-Hanse

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Mikkel Gram-Hanse » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:17:34

We (Smiracing.dk) are nearly done with a little "hands on" article made from
the alpha preview version of Rally Trophy.
To make a long story short, we like it, and we are all GPL nuts. (most of
you GPL guys know Peter Arnholm)

There are problems with some of the physics, but much of that is even stated
in the read-me as being known to the developers.
I hardly thinks it's fair bashing them for letting us see and test a preview
version with some parts of the game still to be done.

I think its safe to say that Rally Trophy even in the alpha version is the
best rally game ever... Now we can just wait and see how much better it gets
in the final version. I for one look very much forward to seeing a more
finished version with e.g. correct ground friction values and multiplayer
options.

The ultra short judgement is... we have a potential hit on the way, it's
great fun.
But a massively important thing like multiplayer is not implemented in the
alpha, so only time will tell if Rally Trophy will go all the way to the top
of my personal wish list.

Mikkel Gram-Hansen
http://www.simracing.dk


Alan Bernard

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Alan Bernard » Sat, 28 Jul 2001 00:35:21


GPL racers-- though I have nothing against them-- are the most prejudiced
when evaluating whether a racing title is a simulation or not.  So I
wouldn't pay much attention to what they say.  They may be right, but I
think their standards (and airs, for that matter) may be a bit too high.

Look to other non-GPL opinions also before you decide whether Rally Trophy
is going to be a good simulation or not.

Alanb

Jan Verschuere

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:00:28

Will you guys quit throwing all "GPL racers" in one pile already? -That
really annoys me.

Thanks.

Jan.
=---

Jacob Butne

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Jacob Butne » Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:17:41

Well, the copy I played (along with Pekka Heino and David Harrison of
bhmotorsports.com), we were all damn impressed with what they had at E3
(including the booth babes).

The cars felt great and you really had to be on your toes to control the
car....

Just my .02.

-Jacob


Ian

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Ian » Sat, 28 Jul 2001 02:27:30

It annoys me too, I race GPL but also think there are other good sims
available, MBTR, N4 and F1RC spring immediately to mind.
To say that all GPL racers are prejudiced, is in itself a prejudiced and
short sighted statement.

--

Ian P
<email invalid due to spammers>


Ed Solhei

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Ed Solhei » Sat, 28 Jul 2001 03:22:46

With so many good comments about 'RT' being posted here - I'm thrown even
further into the dark....

I'll keep my mought shut until I can judge for myself....  I got this good
feeling now.. I relly think the person who said it was "bad" got it all
wrong...

So Bug Bear - please accept my apologizes for "jumping to the gun"..  Sorry!

ed_

Ed Solheim

Thom j

RT: Rally Thropy = Spirit of Speed'37 all over??

by Thom j » Sat, 28 Jul 2001 04:06:11

Who cares whether you do or do not have anything against
GPL racers-- or not...phew.. Get a grip will'ya? :)

| GPL racers-- though I have nothing against them-- are

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