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by **GraDe** » Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Did someone say that this was an Alpha from back in January or something?

Surely there might be time to change it by July!?! Still though, if you
just don't cheat where's the problem?
People just cheat and ignore black flags sometimes.

> I have just got back to Sydney from the Australian Grand Prix. I have to
say
> that was extreamly disapointed with Grand Prix 3 that was running down
there
> in the Gp Expo Tent. From the reports that I have just read I am extreamly
> surprised that people believe this game looked sensational. IMO the game
> looked nothing more than Gp2 with higher resolution. Don't get me wrong
Gp2
> was a great game however it had some problems. From what I saw down in
> Melbourne the game had not fixed up some of the problem. One of the most
> annoying problems in Gp2 was the Black Flag Problem. That is if you cut a
> corner you car then slows down - compared with you being asked to come
into
> the pits and having a stop go penalty. This Black Flag problem is still
> HERE! That is just one example of things that Geoff has not fixed. Yes it
> may still be a good game, but not one of the greats. It is not in GPL's
> league. I will have a full report up here latter. Now its time for some
> Sleep

by **GraDe** » Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Does it?

Only RC2000 has had this IMO, that I have played anyway, but that sorta has,
to its a rally game....

.... is it one of those things that its so miniature and unrecognisable that
we just take Dave Krammers word ? :-)

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by **Jo Helse** » Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:00:00

And now back to your cage! <G>

;-)

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by **Ric** » Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:00:00

who is to say that the slowing you down after cutting corners is not
just another option in the game, that can be turned off ?
or swapped for a stop go penalty ?

and who says that we're seeing/hearing the most recent release of the
game at melbourne ?

http://come.to/rs-shifter

by **Jan Verschuere** » Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:00:00

and who still believes in Santa Claus? <g>

Jan.
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by **Martin Urs** » Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:37:59 -0000, "GraDee"

>> One of the big things that puts GPL out front atm is its true 3D road
>> surfaces - imho.

>Does it?

see: Karussell (Nurburgring, km 12-12.5)

Martin
Long Live Nigel Mansell!

by **Barry Lee** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I'd like to know exactly which corner he cut when playing the demo in
Melbourne. You don't need a black flag when you cut corners at Monaco, you
need an Ambulance!

Bazza

by **Barry Lee** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

In GPL, I've actually run along a girder round a bend at Monza and
overtaken the opposition!!. I've even driven off with my wheel jammed into
the hedges. GPL is great, but lets face it, nothings perfect. I take it
you've raced GP3, seen it in action? Doubt it. The proper damage model has
yet to be shown. Not only that, I've seen plenty of runoff corner cutting
in F1 without a stop go penalty anyway. I guess all they'd have to do is
say its in the game and never actually do it, and it would be an accurate
simulation!

Bazza

by **Jan Verschuere** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Harbour Chicane.

Jan.
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by **David Butte** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

SCGT has Shift-R.

--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

by **David Butte** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

<snip>

With the "Realistic" damage setting?

--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

by **David L. Co** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

> GP's by Geoff will always have these things. He is at times rather
> short-sighted when it comes to little things like the one you point out.
> And he is also rather short-sighted when it comes to big things like
> Internet and multi-player features. But then, he is an artist. So you
> either like his art or you don't.

I wonder if he is "short-sighted" enough to exclude Force Feedback. I've
hear no mention of it in GP3 yet...

--David Cook

by **Rafe McAulif** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:37:59 -0000, "GraDee"

>> One of the big things that puts GPL out front atm is its true 3D road
>> surfaces - imho.

>Does it?

>Only RC2000 has had this IMO, that I have played anyway, but that sorta has,
>to its a rally game....

>.... is it one of those things that its so miniature and unrecognisable that
>we just take Dave Krammers word ? :-)

Almost every track - Bump at *** square, Monaco, also bump on final
corner at Zandy, etc. Fantastic realism, especially when you compare
with the real footage.

Rafe Mc

by **Rafe McAulif** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:10:46 +1000, "The Harrison's"

>I have just got back to Sydney from the Australian Grand Prix. I have to say
>that was extreamly disapointed with Grand Prix 3 that was running down there
>in the Gp Expo Tent. From the reports that I have just read I am extreamly
>surprised that people believe this game looked sensational. IMO the game
>looked nothing more than Gp2 with higher resolution. Don't get me wrong Gp2
>was a great game however it had some problems. From what I saw down in
>Melbourne the game had not fixed up some of the problem. One of the most
>annoying problems in Gp2 was the Black Flag Problem. That is if you cut a
>corner you car then slows down - compared with you being asked to come into
>the pits and having a stop go penalty. This Black Flag problem is still
>HERE! That is just one example of things that Geoff has not fixed. Yes it
>may still be a good game, but not one of the greats. It is not in GPL's
>league. I will have a full report up here latter. Now its time for some
>Sleep

I agree with Allan, after seeing the game for myself at the GP. Looked
great with the big screens, hyperstims, etc. but still the ol' GP2 we
know too well. For me, I know the game will still be as realistic as
GP2, and the addition of wet weather (properly implemented!!) and
harware acceleration will be enough for me. Pity we couldn't see the
wet weather for real at the display. The two blonde ***s on the side
kept distracting me from the screens though!!

Hopefully the GP2 community will be back in force for GP3, with the
Paul Hoad editor still able to be used. I'm sure Geoff wouldn't tweak
his code too much to prevent this.

Rafe Mc

by **Phillip McNell** » Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Yes it is a subtle thing at times, gross at others, but I think the
true shape and nature of the road surface is a far more importatnt
issue than track-side graphics.

We can see, feel, and expieience consquences of the 3D road surface in
GPL. This seems more than just taking someone's word that its there.

BestRegards

pm

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