rec.autos.simulators

by **Rob Adam** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:46:59

I recently picked up my shiny new PC (specs below) and GPL runs great on it.
As usual with new hardware though, I'm experiencing a few minor irritations.
I'm hoping some of you hardware gurus have some suggestions:

mainboard: ASUS A7M266, BIOS revision 1003 (flashed from 1002 last night)
CPU: AMD Athlon 1.333 GHz
RAM: 256 MB Crucial DDR (PC1600)
Vid: 64MB Hercules Prophet Ultra II
Sound: Diamond Monster MX-300
HD: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM UDMA 100

sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus A3D
drivers 2.12
vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41

GPL 1.2 with the newest D3D patch and disco fix. No other patches (carsound,
etc.). I am using a Lotus sound from Alison's site, and an updated dash, but
no other graphics updates

Here are the problems:
1. Sound pops and crackles significantly in GPL. I got a bit of this with my
previous PC (PII 333, Voodoo 3) but not enough to annoy.

-->I have visited the GeForce FAQ site and followed most of their
suggestions, nothing helped. (The suggestions I didn't follow dealt with
BIOS changes that didn't relate to my BIOS or I couldn't find them if they
did).

2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track.

-->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the solution was always
"use older drivers or live with it". I can live with it unless there is an
easy solution. It happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twice makes
it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box which clears up the
display).

3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated "CMedia"
sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98
keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. If I
delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go
away cuz it bugs me.

-->I flashed the BIOS (on the vendor's suggestion) in an attempt to get my
BIOS setup screen to resemble the one in the BIOS manual, but it still
doesn't. I'm thinking this is a bad thing, but the PC seems to be working
fine.

4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get the overclocking
and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the 12.41
drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else I can
fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers?

Thanks in advance

Rob

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:58:13

Perhaps easier to press the "save replay" icon and then cancel the save...
that cures it on the rare occasions it happens with V3 and Glide Wrapper.

Jan.
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by **Jens H. Kruus** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:00:53

On my new pc (KT133A chipset), there are two places in the BIOS where
you have to diasable the onboard sound: Advanced Chipset Features ->
OnChip Sound and Integrated Peripherials -> Onboard Legacy Audio.
Hope this helps.

/Jens

> I recently picked up my shiny new PC (specs below) and GPL runs great on it.
> As usual with new hardware though, I'm experiencing a few minor irritations.
> I'm hoping some of you hardware gurus have some suggestions:

> mainboard: ASUS A7M266, BIOS revision 1003 (flashed from 1002 last night)
> CPU: AMD Athlon 1.333 GHz
> RAM: 256 MB Crucial DDR (PC1600)
> Vid: 64MB Hercules Prophet Ultra II
> Sound: Diamond Monster MX-300
> HD: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM UDMA 100

> sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus A3D
> drivers 2.12
> vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41

> GPL 1.2 with the newest D3D patch and disco fix. No other patches (carsound,
> etc.). I am using a Lotus sound from Alison's site, and an updated dash, but
> no other graphics updates

> Here are the problems:
> 1. Sound pops and crackles significantly in GPL. I got a bit of this with my
> previous PC (PII 333, Voodoo 3) but not enough to annoy.

> -->I have visited the GeForce FAQ site and followed most of their
> suggestions, nothing helped. (The suggestions I didn't follow dealt with
> BIOS changes that didn't relate to my BIOS or I couldn't find them if they
> did).

> 2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track.

> -->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the solution was always
> "use older drivers or live with it". I can live with it unless there is an
> easy solution. It happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twice makes
> it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box which clears up the
> display).

> 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated "CMedia"
> sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98
> keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. If I
> delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go
> away cuz it bugs me.

> -->I flashed the BIOS (on the vendor's suggestion) in an attempt to get my
> BIOS setup screen to resemble the one in the BIOS manual, but it still
> doesn't. I'm thinking this is a bad thing, but the PC seems to be working
> fine.

> 4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get the overclocking
> and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the 12.41
> drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else I can
> fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers?

> Thanks in advance

> Rob

by **Rob Adam** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:01:38

Thanks Jens. My BIOS manual shows 2 places (similar wording to what you
describe) but my BIOS doesn't match the manual - there is only one setting.
I'm assuming the manual is out of date. The setting that's missing is
"Onboard Legacy Audio" which sounds like what I need :(

> On my new pc (KT133A chipset), there are two places in the BIOS where
> you have to diasable the onboard sound: Advanced Chipset Features ->
> OnChip Sound and Integrated Peripherials -> Onboard Legacy Audio.
> Hope this helps.

> /Jens

> > I recently picked up my shiny new PC (specs below) and GPL runs great on
it.
> > As usual with new hardware though, I'm experiencing a few minor
irritations.
> > I'm hoping some of you hardware gurus have some suggestions:

> > mainboard: ASUS A7M266, BIOS revision 1003 (flashed from 1002 last
night)
> > CPU: AMD Athlon 1.333 GHz
> > RAM: 256 MB Crucial DDR (PC1600)
> > Vid: 64MB Hercules Prophet Ultra II
> > Sound: Diamond Monster MX-300
> > HD: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM UDMA 100

> > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus A3D
> > drivers 2.12
> > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41

> > GPL 1.2 with the newest D3D patch and disco fix. No other patches
(carsound,
> > etc.). I am using a Lotus sound from Alison's site, and an updated dash,
but
> > no other graphics updates

> > Here are the problems:
> > 1. Sound pops and crackles significantly in GPL. I got a bit of this
with my
> > previous PC (PII 333, Voodoo 3) but not enough to annoy.

> > -->I have visited the GeForce FAQ site and followed most of their
> > suggestions, nothing helped. (The suggestions I didn't follow dealt with
> > BIOS changes that didn't relate to my BIOS or I couldn't find them if
they
> > did).

> > 2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track.

> > -->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the solution was always
> > "use older drivers or live with it". I can live with it unless there is
an
> > easy solution. It happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twice
makes
> > it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box which clears up
the
> > display).

> > 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated
"CMedia"
> > sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98
> > keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers.
If I
> > delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go
> > away cuz it bugs me.

> > -->I flashed the BIOS (on the vendor's suggestion) in an attempt to get
my
> > BIOS setup screen to resemble the one in the BIOS manual, but it still
> > doesn't. I'm thinking this is a bad thing, but the PC seems to be
working
> > fine.

> > 4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get the
overclocking
> > and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the
12.41
> > drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else I
can
> > fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers?

> > Thanks in advance

> > Rob

by **Jim Seamu** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:47:56

The menu flickering problems are an unavoidable part of using D3D in GPL. No
solution, although some say certain video card drivers are better than
others here (I'm unconvinced, having tried several).

The 12.41 drivers don't allow overclocking, it's disabled in this version as
these are the MS-approved "offical" detonators. The 12.40 and 12.60 drivers
let you overclock but may not be as stable (on account of them not being
"officially approved") - if you really want to clock your card with the
12.41's then I believe you can copy just one of the 12.40 files into your
12.41 folder but I'm afraid I don't know which one, sorry. Alternatively use
the 12.40's or if you don't need too much DX8 stuff then I find the 10.80
drivers are a few % faster......

HTH
Jim

by **Sideshow Bo** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:42:56

: 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated
"CMedia"
: sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98
: keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. If
I
: delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go
: away cuz it bugs me.
:

Look for a jumper called Audio_EN near the CMedia audio chip.

HTH,
Dale.

by **Rob Adam** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:46:59

I wondered how long it would take until somebody suggested a non-software
method! I'm a-scared!

But yeah, that's probably the best way.

Thanks Dale.

p.s. My pc's faster than yours, nyeah nyeah!
hee hee hee :)

> : 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated
> "CMedia"
> : sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98
> : keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers.
If
> I
> : delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go
> : away cuz it bugs me.
> :

> Look for a jumper called Audio_EN near the CMedia audio chip.

> HTH,
> Dale.

by **Lannie Schafrot** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:28:53

I'm using 12.41 drivers and the graphics problems went away. Solid.

by **Neil Rain** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:54:57

I'm using D3D with a Riva TNT Model 64, and have never experienced any menu
flickering.

So at least that card works!

(I'm using it on Windows 2000, btw).

by **Rafe McAulif** » Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:34:28

I'd agree, definitely change the jumper. My sister's pc with onboard
sound would still work even if it was disabled in the bios (but
enabled with the jumper), and windows would recognise and install
software for it.

Piece of pie to change the jumper, just check the manual for which way
and do it with the power off :)

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:46:59 GMT, "Rob Adams"

>I wondered how long it would take until somebody suggested a non-software
>method! I'm a-scared!

>But yeah, that's probably the best way.

>Thanks Dale.

>p.s. My pc's faster than yours, nyeah nyeah!
>hee hee hee :)

>> : 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated
>> "CMedia"
>> : sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98
>> : keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers.
>If
>> I
>> : delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go
>> : away cuz it bugs me.
>> :

>> Look for a jumper called Audio_EN near the CMedia audio chip.

>> HTH,
>> Dale.

by **Laurence Wilme** » Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:26:07

Don't think 2041 are quite the latest Vortex drivers.
Try http://www.vortexofsound.com/drivers/drv_v29x.htm for 2048?

--
Laurence Wilmer

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by **Rob Adam** » Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:44:37

Yup, you're right. I wrote the original post from work, guessing at version
numbers - I do have 2048.

Thanks to all who helped - I flipped the jumper to turn off the onboard
chip, and:

1. The device no longer appears in Device Manager (Yay)
2. The crackles in GPL are gone (YAY)
3. I have a couple of free IRQ's to play with (yay)

PC's are such fun...

> > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus
> A3D
> > drivers 2.12
> > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41
> > Thanks in advance

> > Rob

> Don't think 2041 are quite the latest Vortex drivers.
> Try http://www.vortexofsound.com/drivers/drv_v29x.htm for 2048?

> --
> Laurence Wilmer

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by **Rob Beru** » Mon, 18 Jun 2001 03:36:26

Usually there is a jumper on the systemboard that must be adjusted as well.

Visit http://www.wildandyc.co.uk/Miscellaneous/coolbits/nocoolbitshey.shtml.
I ran across it today; it says how to reenable Coolbits with the 12.41
drivers.

by **Rafe McAulif** » Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:22:14

Good to hear all is better (well not all but at least some...)

On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:44:37 GMT, "Rob Adams"

>Yup, you're right. I wrote the original post from work, guessing at version
>numbers - I do have 2048.

>Thanks to all who helped - I flipped the jumper to turn off the onboard
>chip, and:

>1. The device no longer appears in Device Manager (Yay)
>2. The crackles in GPL are gone (YAY)
>3. I have a couple of free IRQ's to play with (yay)

>PC's are such fun...

>> > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus
>> A3D
>> > drivers 2.12
>> > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41
>> > Thanks in advance

>> > Rob

>> Don't think 2041 are quite the latest Vortex drivers.
>> Try http://www.vortexofsound.com/drivers/drv_v29x.htm for 2048?

>> --
>> Laurence Wilmer

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by **Rob Adam** » Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:08:03

In the spirit of never letting a thread die: I was running first at Road
Atlanta last night (GPL) when my fan started to make a clicking noise. It
stopped making the noise after a couple of seconds then Crack! Flash! Dead
power supply :(

Fortunately the vendor lives near me and was available at 8:30 PM and I had
a new power supply by 9.

> Good to hear all is better (well not all but at least some...)

> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:44:37 GMT, "Rob Adams"

> >Yup, you're right. I wrote the original post from work, guessing at
version
> >numbers - I do have 2048.

> >Thanks to all who helped - I flipped the jumper to turn off the onboard
> >chip, and:

> >1. The device no longer appears in Device Manager (Yay)
> >2. The crackles in GPL are gone (YAY)
> >3. I have a couple of free IRQ's to play with (yay)

> >PC's are such fun...

> >> > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus
> >> A3D
> >> > drivers 2.12
> >> > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41
> >> > Thanks in advance

> >> > Rob

> >> Don't think 2041 are quite the latest Vortex drivers.
> >> Try http://www.vortexofsound.com/drivers/drv_v29x.htm for 2048?

> >> --
> >> Laurence Wilmer

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