rec.autos.simulators

by **James Litt** » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Hello,

I bought N3 last week and have had mixed results getting N3 to work.
I would greatly appreciate anybody's assistance.

SYSTEM:
PII-450Mhz (not overclocked)
128 MB RAM
Asus P2B motherboard
Windows 98
Diamond Monster 2 12MB (not o/c)
Diamond V550 (not o/c)
SB Live Value

PROBLEM:
When starting and playing with the options, everything is fine, but
after selecting a track and then going to a training session or going
to the track for an event the sim immediately crashes to desktop.
This does not occur at all the tracks.

**Using 3dfx:
Works:
Atlanta, Homestead-Miami, Las Vegas, Michigan, New Hampshire, North
Carolina, Phoenix, Pikes Peak, Sears Point, Watkins Glen

Doesn't Work:
Bristol, Bristol-Night, California, Darlington, Dover Downs, Gateway,
Indianapolis, IRP, Lowe's, Lowe's-Night, Martinsville, Memphis,
Milwaukee, Myrtle Beach, Nazereth, Richmond-Night, South Boston,
Talladega, Texas

**Using direct3d:
Nothing works. The computer locks up between the track selection
screen and the event screen.

**Using software:
This has brought the best results. I have been able to use all the
tracks, but I'm still getting some crashes to desktops, although much
less frequently.

Note: when I crash to desktop, this is the message I receive.

Windows 98 Version 4.10.1998
NASCAR RACING 3 caused fault #c0000005 in
module NASCAR RACING 3.EXE at 0177:004861ac.
Registers:
EAX=0065d2f0 CS=0177 EIP=004861ac EFLGS=00210216
EBX=057a7b68 SS=017f ESP=0094f8d4 EBP=00000004
ECX=0065d2f0 DS=017f ESI=057a7b50 FS=196f
EDX=00640008 ES=017f EDI=00000004 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
5f 5d 5b c3 83 ec 14 a1 f2 25 53 00 53 55 56 85
Stack dump:
057a7b68 00000001 006345b4 00000007 00489568 057a7b68 00636000
006361a4 000000f4 006361a4 00636174 00634f01 0048884b 00636000
006361a4 006361a8

ACTIONS TAKEN:

Used Norton to check if system is in proper working order. yes
Full install and partial install didn't change results.
Up-to-date drivers for video and sound cards, as well as older
versions did not fix the problem.
--Used Nvidia Detonator and Diamond v550 drivers
--Used 3dfx reference and Diamond Monster 2 drivers
Installing N3 on different drives did nothing to fix problem.
Moving video and sound cards on motherboard did nothing.

Again, I would really appreciate if anybody could help or offer
advice...other than taking a hammer to the machine. :)

by the way, is the direct3d option selecting the direct3d from the v2
or from the v550? Is there a way to change it between the two?

Thanks,
James Littek

by **Brian J. Ewold** » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Go into the Direct X directry and look for the DX diagontices and run the
tests. I would bet that you have an out of date driver.

Brian

by **Rick Sweene** » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00

You always see unsupported drivers in DX, even with the newest drivers
installed. I am also having problems with N3 crashing. I have sent an debug
dump to papy for analysis.

> Go into the Direct X directry and look for the DX diagontices and run the
> tests. I would bet that you have an out of date driver.

> Brian

by **Philste** » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> Hello,

> I bought N3 last week and have had mixed results getting N3 to work.
> I would greatly appreciate anybody's assistance.

> SYSTEM:
> PII-450Mhz (not overclocked)
> 128 MB RAM
> Asus P2B motherboard
> Windows 98
> Diamond Monster 2 12MB (not o/c)
> Diamond V550 (not o/c)
> SB Live Value

> PROBLEM:
> When starting and playing with the options, everything is fine, but
> after selecting a track and then going to a training session or going
> to the track for an event the sim immediately crashes to desktop.
> This does not occur at all the tracks.

> **Using 3dfx:
> Works:
> Atlanta, Homestead-Miami, Las Vegas, Michigan, New Hampshire, North
> Carolina, Phoenix, Pikes Peak, Sears Point, Watkins Glen

> Doesn't Work:
> Bristol, Bristol-Night, California, Darlington, Dover Downs, Gateway,
> Indianapolis, IRP, Lowe's, Lowe's-Night, Martinsville, Memphis,
> Milwaukee, Myrtle Beach, Nazereth, Richmond-Night, South Boston,
> Talladega, Texas

> **Using direct3d:
> Nothing works. The computer locks up between the track selection
> screen and the event screen.

> **Using software:
> This has brought the best results. I have been able to use all the
> tracks, but I'm still getting some crashes to desktops, although much
> less frequently.

> Note: when I crash to desktop, this is the message I receive.

> Windows 98 Version 4.10.1998
> NASCAR RACING 3 caused fault #c0000005 in
> module NASCAR RACING 3.EXE at 0177:004861ac.
> Registers:
> EAX=0065d2f0 CS=0177 EIP=004861ac EFLGS=00210216
> EBX=057a7b68 SS=017f ESP=0094f8d4 EBP=00000004
> ECX=0065d2f0 DS=017f ESI=057a7b50 FS=196f
> EDX=00640008 ES=017f EDI=00000004 GS=0000
> Bytes at CS:EIP:
> 5f 5d 5b c3 83 ec 14 a1 f2 25 53 00 53 55 56 85
> Stack dump:
> 057a7b68 00000001 006345b4 00000007 00489568 057a7b68 00636000
> 006361a4 000000f4 006361a4 00636174 00634f01 0048884b 00636000
> 006361a4 006361a8

> ACTIONS TAKEN:

> Used Norton to check if system is in proper working order. yes
> Full install and partial install didn't change results.
> Up-to-date drivers for video and sound cards, as well as older
> versions did not fix the problem.
> --Used Nvidia Detonator and Diamond v550 drivers
> --Used 3dfx reference and Diamond Monster 2 drivers
> Installing N3 on different drives did nothing to fix problem.
> Moving video and sound cards on motherboard did nothing.

> Again, I would really appreciate if anybody could help or offer
> advice...other than taking a hammer to the machine. :)

> by the way, is the direct3d option selecting the direct3d from the v2
> or from the v550? Is there a way to change it between the two?

> Thanks,
> James Littek

I have the same the same system and N3 works perfectly in 3Dfx up to
1024X768. Games lock ups in D3D 1024X768, but only I start the "race"
session. N3 needs the most recent drivers and DirectX 6.1.

Philster

by **Ken Field** » Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I am having the same problem on k6-2 450 with a 3dfx voodoo3, 192 mb
ram, fic pa-2013 motherboard, sb live value. Sent a request to Sierra for
tech support and they told me to try everything that has been tried
already ie. Direct X drivers, video drivers etc...also to get rid of the
start up video, but nothing works. When I first installled the game last
week it worked ok but has crashed with more frequency to the point of not
being able to get in a whole lap.
I removed a voodoo2 to install the voodoo3 so I think I will try to
go back to v2 to eliminate the v3 card. If anyone has any suggestions
feel free...