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Real Racing: Have any of you actually driven a real race car??

Nick

Real Racing: Have any of you actually driven a real race car??

by Nick » Sun, 19 May 2002 09:57:47


The biggest difference is obviously the feedback. Very subtle judders of the
steering wheel and brake pedal when approaching the limit of grip can never
be accurately reproduced in a sim, but everybody says that so I will move
on.

The second biggest fact in my opinion is that race cars (all cars, in fact)
seem 'keyed in' to the road. It actually takes a surprising amount of effort
to spin a race car if you are driving it properly - you get a lot of warning
signs from the wheels before anything starts to give. In GPL this feeling is
non-existant - there almost seems to be a layer between the tyres and the
road slipping against them both. You can get realistic laptimes and such
from GPL, but in a real race car you can drive at 90% fairly easily and
consistently with no major 'moments', but in GPL driving anywhere above 70%
is constantly twitchy and unstable. This all depends on the race car you
drive, of course, and I am bound to get a whole bunch of people mailing me
telling me how twitchy '67 GP cars were. You can look at the GPL intro video
to get a perfect example of what I mean. There is a shot of a car coming off
the in-built banking at the Karussel out at the 'Ring. I can't remember
which car, but just look at how the car is reacting to the balance change
and regaining grip. Now try to do that in GPL...

GPL is by far the best, but there is still a long way to go.

--
Nick

"The overriding purpose of software is
to be useful, rather than correct."
John Carmack, id Software

Hans Jense

Real Racing: Have any of you actually driven a real race car??

by Hans Jense » Mon, 20 May 2002 03:55:41

What do you mean chill do I seem upset?, just making my point according to
the test done by the magazine, at willow springs, and as I can see the
test's done at Nurburgering, is also proving my point, a $10,000 bike is
faster than most production cars and even some modified once, or did you
miss that point where I said stock production cars vs. stock bike, well not
in those exact words but I do think it was implied, also the speed test's of
the bike were far quicker, that particular bike has a topspeed of 177 mph =
285 kmh, which obviously is not as fast as some production cars but at what
price ? So If you think I'm upset or need to chill well then you my friend
is wrong, I do realize there are a lot of nitpickers on this NG, that are
upset with life in general, and complain about a whole lot of things that
are important to them, but not to others, you may even catch me complaining
every once in a while and if you do please remind me not to cause
complaining and belittleling others with smartass comment's is just a way
for people with low self-esteem to feel better about themselves and don't
take this the wrong way Please, it is not an attack on any1 in particular
just a fact


> Spot on!

> Hans, its not that important, now chill or you may burst something...

> 'Our Kid'




> > All depends on the track doesn't it......

> > http://www.nordschleife.no/

> > Beers and cheers
> > (uncle) Goy

> > http://www.theuspits.com

> > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> > --Groucho Marx--

Dave Henri

Real Racing: Have any of you actually driven a real race car??

by Dave Henri » Mon, 20 May 2002 10:59:41

"Nick"

    Getting back to the meat of the conversation...I checked out Goy's link
to the Ring for the Bike vs Car comparison.  But what did I find...(in the
stock category) Two Vipers well ahead of a heavily modified Callaway Vette
and even a Subaru Impreza ahead of the First Corvette which was even further
down the list.  Now I'm not gonna wave my privates at your Auntie but it
seems to me that Ten is bigger than 8.  :)  About 2 fangs more I'd wager.
dave(troublemaker)henrie

Gary

Real Racing: Have any of you actually driven a real race car??

by Gary » Tue, 21 May 2002 02:21:52


> I hope you know a good shop to have that repaired in....
> They spend more time in the Garage than the road....

Guess I better buy a couple of them then :-))))))

> --
> --



> > > If you had read my message completely, you'd know that I *said* I'll never
> own
> > > either.  Obviously you missed that part.  Truthfully, even if I *could*
> afford
> > > it, I wouldn't buy either one.  I happen to prefer the Lotus Esprit Turbo,
> so
> > > THERE... :-P

> > Son-of-a-***...I thought I was the only one who got a woody from those
> > things! Make mine British Racing Green with tan leather interior please.
> > Now if I could only hit the Powerball jackpot ;-)))))

> > Gary


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