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Best F1 simulator ?

GandAlf

Best F1 simulator ?

by GandAlf » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Hi
I was wondering what top, awesome F1 sims are on the market ?
How do they compare etc
I already have GP2.

Regards
Gandalf

Damien PONTHIE

Best F1 simulator ?

by Damien PONTHIE » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

no 5 words : Buy Grand Prix Legends NOW

>On 14 Apr 1999 14:33:19 GMT,


>>Hi
>>I was wondering what top, awesome F1 sims are on the market ?
>>How do they compare etc
>>I already have GP2.

>>Regards
>>Gandalf

>4 words: Buy Grand Prix Legends.

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Toni Lassi

Best F1 simulator ?

by Toni Lassi » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Modern era with real teams:

- Formula One Racing Sim (F1RS)

Modern era with fake teams but updatable:

- Monaco Grand Prix Racing Sim (MGPRS)

60's historical Formula One:

- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)
- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)
- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)
- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)
- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)
- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)
- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)
- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)
- Grand Prix Legends (GPL)

Do I make myself clear?-)

Iain Mackenzi

Best F1 simulator ?

by Iain Mackenzi » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Don't buy F1RS as MGPRS2 is vastly superior in every way, including the AI,
graphics, etc.etc.
Iain
Graeme Nas

Best F1 simulator ?

by Graeme Nas » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Well, if you already have GP2 you're sorted for modern F1 (IMHO) so the
only one left is Grand Prix Legends. The finest sim yet. Get it
yesterday!

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Hengest and Leigha

Best F1 simulator ?

by Hengest and Leigha » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

GP2 is the best for contemporary cars by far.  But you really should go out
and get GPL...It offers racing exhilaration that can only be experienced by
those fortunate enough to do it for real...

Matthew.


Greg Cisk

Best F1 simulator ?

by Greg Cisk » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Bullshit. Perhaps they released a patch for MGPRS2 which has
drastically improved the game since Dec98? If not I simply don't
believe it. The framerate was certainly worse at Monaco in
MGPRS2 than it is in F1RS. (I have a P2-450 with 128MB of
RAM and a 12MB Voodoo2).

Are the Force Feedback effects also improved in MGPRS2? The
last I heard it was not. The sound also was certainly *NOT* improved.
In fact the sound was quite a bit worse. The 3D sound also sucked.
This is quite surprising since the 3D sound in F1RS is awesome.

MGPRS2 is more like F1RS 1.5 than it is a new version of the game.

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Greg Cisk

Best F1 simulator ?

by Greg Cisk » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00


>GP2 is the best for contemporary cars by far.  But you really should go out

What? GP2 better than F1RS? Are you people totally mental or
something? Holy shit...

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>and get GPL...It offers racing exhilaration that can only be experienced by
>those fortunate enough to do it for real...

>Matthew.



>> Hi
>> I was wondering what top, awesome F1 sims are on the market ?
>> How do they compare etc
>> I already have GP2.

>> Regards
>> Gandalf

ymenar

Best F1 simulator ?

by ymenar » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Nice way to make friend Greg <g>

IMHO Gp2.. updated with 1996tracks, 1996 performances, 1996 carshape and
carset is as good as F1RS.  It excels it in some domains (game engine,
sound, depth of the options) but fails to F1RS in others (graphic engine,
tyre temps ! heh).  I even consider the GP2 AI better than in F1RS.

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Te

Best F1 simulator ?

by Te » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00

On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:53:36 -0500, "Greg Cisko"


>MGPRS2 is more like F1RS 1.5 than it is a new version of the game.

Just to get back to the facts...

- Improved ingame graphics and FX (i.e. more and more detailed
objects, reflections, additional texturing, mip mapping)
- support for higher resolutions
- new ingame perspectives
- brake ratio, ARB, fuel strategy can be changed on the fly during the
race
- more realistic wheather changes
- 2 new tracks
- the ability to change team & driver info, editors for graphics and
sound
- a vastly modified driving model
- much more aggressive AI
- blue flag and additional black flag situations
- extended setup and telemetry
- spare car & 107 % rule option
- the careermode
- the scenariomode
- the Gameservice (Multiplayer via Internet, up to 8 players)

So, in any case it *is* a lot better than F1RS, I cannot see a single
reason why anyone should still buy the older, less advanced of the two
(money issue aside).
As you can see there's quite a number of changes/additions, a bit the
opposite to another company who just released basically the same game
for the third time - and people are still happily buying and playing
it... ?

PS: you really need to check your system, there must be a serious
problem if you cannot manage to get a fluid framerate on a PII450. I
know people are running it successfully on an ordinary P200 without
any hickups (low res of course)

--Tel

Peter Gag

Best F1 simulator ?

by Peter Gag » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00



> >I already have GP2.

> Well, if you already have GP2 you're sorted for modern F1 (IMHO) so
> the
> only one left is Grand Prix Legends. The finest sim yet. Get it
> yesterday!

Wot Graeme said.

8-)

Except.....FIRS or MGPS2 (which is the newer version of F1RS) have
better graphics than GP2 (3Dfx). I hated F1RS when it first came out,
as I was a die hard GP2 fan, and F1RS just didn't feel right?

However, after lots of practicing, it does grow on you, and gets to be
very enjoyable. I still think GP2 feels better to drive though? So if
you want looks, F1RS or MGPR2 is your choice, if you want driving
feel, stick with GP2?

The best F1 sim, EVER, though, has to be GRAND PRIX LEGENDS, no doubt,
buy it. You will regret it if you miss out on what is, a sim racing
experience that should not be missed! It sounds great, it looks great,
it drives great. Go get it............Well! what are you waiting for?

8-)

*Peter*   #:-)

Jay Wolf

Best F1 simulator ?

by Jay Wolf » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00



>>GP2 is the best for contemporary cars by far.  But you really should go
out

>What? GP2 better than F1RS? Are you people totally mental or
>something? Holy shit...

yeah, greggy, it is so good that i will give my copy (including the box and
manual) of that piece o'***to the first person that sends me enough
postage to send it to them. every time i see that box, it makes me mad. that
sorry program lasted less than 10 minutes on my system. i don't have to
smell a fart for 3 days to know it stinks. GP2 kicks its ass in every way,
if you care about modern stuff. but, since GPL has been out...

p.s. - hey, ymenard - i saw a screening of that new SW flick. it blows.

Jean-Francois Lepag

Best F1 simulator ?

by Jean-Francois Lepag » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00




> >Don't buy F1RS as MGPRS2 is vastly superior in every way, including the AI,
> >graphics, etc.etc.

> Bullshit. Perhaps they released a patch for MGPRS2 which has
> drastically improved the game since Dec98? If not I simply don't
> believe it. The framerate was certainly worse at Monaco in
> MGPRS2 than it is in F1RS. (I have a P2-450 with 128MB of
> RAM and a 12MB Voodoo2).

You obviously have some problems, it's really fast in 1152x864 and I am on a P2
300 and a G200...F1RS was limited to 640x480 and was definitely slower.

Absolutely not. I have a Logitech Formula Force, and the feedback is quite
awesome.

You should check your sound card...it's really better than in F1RS...the pitch
is far more detailed.

I wouldn't go that far, there was a lot of new features like Tel described.
Although it wasn't a brand new game, it's a good evolution.

Cheers!

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Jean-Francois Lepag

Best F1 simulator ?

by Jean-Francois Lepag » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00


> IMHO Gp2.. updated with 1996tracks, 1996 performances, 1996 carshape and
> carset is as good as F1RS.  It excels it in some domains (game engine,
> sound, depth of the options) but fails to F1RS in others (graphic engine,
> tyre temps ! heh).  I even consider the GP2 AI better than in F1RS.

IMHO, as a veteran of all the named F1 sims, I like MGPRS2 the
best...although I miss the old Imola track. :+)

The AI is really improved in MGPRS2, it's better than GP2 and F1RS; the
adversaries can dodge if you tend to be agressive. They also let you overtake
them, and sometimes gives you hard time.

Cheers!

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ymenar

Best F1 simulator ?

by ymenar » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Ewwwww.. Im sure people use them "all" the time <g>

1 track lost <g>

Rename this to "We lost our FIA license"

vastly ? Still the old and canned Pod game engine. And the title they are
presently doing is STILL using the old game engine.

LOL can we say dumb AI ? (somebody has damage... a lapper pass him.. the
lapper receives a blue flag.. lets the driver with damage pass...  loop this
until the damaged car goes into the pits).

It's not really good. I finished a season with 10wins and the Championship
at my first season with a Tyrell, and I still only got a wheel for a
Benneton.. not for a top team.

It's one of the worse online experience I ever saw.  the NROS.. Hawaii..
VROC.. it's years ahead of a 2-3car racing with extreme latency (cars
stopping on a straight all the time and reaccelerating from 0 to 200 in
0.5seconds.  Nice game engine <g>).

They still never fixed the no sound in replay after what 6patches now ? They
are a incredible company <g>.  Maybe I shoudl post my URL about the Union
that the UBisoft employees want to form because they are threated like meat
and have severe m***and abuse problems at work?

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