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Slug

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Slug » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:30:34


>  Make that not even born yet.

My initial comment was that Sierra does indeed own Papyrus software in
reply to someone thinking that they did not own them. Which is true,
although, I concede that I may have the dates wrong as to when they
actually bought them. You seem to have taken issue with the little
comment I made about them doing nothing but Nascar sims since. It's a
well known fact that Payrus has only been making Nascar sims for the
last few years because  their owner's think that's where the money is.
Even if Sierra did publish Indycar2 and GPL, they soon put an end to
those series when they saw the profits were not high enough for them.
Please point anything in the above that is not true. And I've been PC
*** with Papyrus sims since 1993 so***you and your stupid
commets like the above.
JP

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by JP » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 05:02:56



> >  Make that not even born yet.

> My initial comment was that Sierra does indeed own Papyrus software in
> reply to someone thinking that they did not own them. Which is true,
> although, I concede that I may have the dates wrong as to when they
> actually bought them. You seem to have taken issue with the little
> comment I made about them doing nothing but Nascar sims since. It's a
> well known fact that Payrus has only been making Nascar sims for the
> last few years because  their owner's think that's where the money is.
> Even if Sierra did publish Indycar2 and GPL, they soon put an end to
> those series when they saw the profits were not high enough for them.
> Please point anything in the above that is not true. And I've been PC
> *** with Papyrus sims since 1993 so***you and your stupid
> commets like the above.

  You still don't get it, surprise.  Hint:  if Sierra and it's resources
couldn't afford to let Papy make more open wheel sims, what makes you think
Papy could by themselves, as you implied, with only a fraction of the same
resources available ?(i.e., MONEY)
  Your original comment, "Yes, Sierra owned Payrus. Otherwise Papyrus would
have probably made Indycar3 and not just Nascar sims ".  Sure looks like you
think if Papy wasn't with Sierra they would have made more open wheel sims.
Nope, they just would have gone out of business sooner, or would have been
with someone else who would have acted just like Sierra.

  I realize in your dream world, you probably throw fits about mean old
companies that actually want things to make a profit, but you'll learn.

   Blaming Sierra for sticking to that after getting burned once is
humorous.

  Try to let you "superior knowledge" grasp ahold of this concept.  You're
completely clueless, best to move along little fella.

Slug

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Slug » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 06:36:37


>  You still don't get it, surprise.  Hint:  if Sierra and it's resources
>couldn't afford to let Papy make more open wheel sims, what makes you think
>Papy could by themselves, as you implied, with only a fraction of the same
>resources available ?(i.e., MONEY)

You're assuming that Payrus didn't have the money to make an open
wheeled sim.  If they did and didn't need Sierra then they would have.
Profit margins be damned.

Again, an assumption on your part. QAnd a flawed one because you don't
know for a fact that Indycar3 would or would not have made money
because it never was made.

Yea, I'm a member of Fight Club and you're just a "big business is
very wise" jackass lacky.

They never got burned. They just didn't make xxx, xxxx dollars on it
so they dumped it. A company with no integrity.

And you think you are more mature than me somehow? Another ***tish
assumption on your part based on nothing except choice of words. Go
back to waving your hanky in the face of someone who actually falls
for that kind of BS.

JP

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by JP » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:25:20



> >  You still don't get it, surprise.  Hint:  if Sierra and it's resources
> >couldn't afford to let Papy make more open wheel sims, what makes you
think
> >Papy could by themselves, as you implied, with only a fraction of the
same
> >resources available ?(i.e., MONEY)

> You're assuming that Payrus didn't have the money to make an open
> wheeled sim.  If they did and didn't need Sierra then they would have.
> Profit margins be damned.

> >  Your original comment, "Yes, Sierra owned Payrus. Otherwise Papyrus
would
> >have probably made Indycar3 and not just Nascar sims ".  Sure looks like
you
> >think if Papy wasn't with Sierra they would have made more open wheel
sims.
> >Nope, they just would have gone out of business sooner, or would have
been
> >with someone else who would have acted just like Sierra.

> Again, an assumption on your part. QAnd a flawed one because you don't
> know for a fact that Indycar3 would or would not have made money
> because it never was made.

> >  I realize in your dream world, you probably throw fits about mean old
> >companies that actually want things to make a profit, but you'll learn.

> Yea, I'm a member of Fight Club and you're just a "big business is
> very wise" jackass lacky.

> >   Blaming Sierra for sticking to that after getting burned once is
> >humorous.

> They never got burned. They just didn't make xxx, xxxx dollars on it
> so they dumped it. A company with no integrity.

> >  Try to let you "superior knowledge" grasp ahold of this concept.
You're
> >completely clueless, best to move along little fella.

> And you think you are more mature than me somehow? Another ***tish
> assumption on your part based on nothing except choice of words. Go
> back to waving your hanky in the face of someone who actually falls
> for that kind of BS.

  Still completely clueless.  Surprise.

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Slug

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by Slug » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:52:24


>  Still completely clueless.  Surprise.

If  musicians subscribed to your shallow and uncreative method of
driving an industry then we would have a lot of shitty music and not
much else. Oh right, the music industry is full of shitty music. Duh,
how could I be so stupid as not to see how it really is. My apologies.
Tim

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Tim » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:06:36

Your arguing with something that drowns in beer :)






Dean Purd

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by Dean Purd » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:18:59

Alright, that's enough. Now both of you go to your rooms.

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> >  Still completely clueless.  Surprise.

> If  musicians subscribed to your shallow and uncreative method of
> driving an industry then we would have a lot of shitty music and not
> much else. Oh right, the music industry is full of shitty music. Duh,
> how could I be so stupid as not to see how it really is. My apologies.

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by JP » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:35:02

   Hehe, nah.


> Your arguing with something that drowns in beer :)







Slug

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by Slug » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:52:42


>   Hehe, nah.

Yea, well, you need to post more than juvenile one liners if you want
to keep up with me.
Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:01:02

I gathered they are working on a car physics SDK for console games, similar
to the Havoc physics for 3D first/3rd person shooters.

Jan.
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Wed, 14 Apr 2004 01:24:36

Yuck...

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by JP » Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:58:49



> On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:21:08 +1000, J?rgen Sundvor Smith

> >Is anyone else experiencing a redirect to vugames.com when trying to
> >reach your favourite driving sim developers?

> I wrote to VUGames and got the following in return:

> "The http://www.papy.com web site is currently down due to some
> technical problems.  Papyrus Racing hopes to have it back up very
> soon."

> Phew...! :)

> Sorry to raise the alarm.

> Cheers,
> J?rgen
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  What's the big deal ?  Not like any news is ever going to be posted there,
and any files there are available elsewhere.

  Like the cop says at the accident scene......"Nothing to see here, move
along "

JP

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by JP » Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:16:01




> >  What's the big deal ?  Not like any news is ever going to be posted
there,
> >and any files there are available elsewhere.

> >  Like the cop says at the accident scene......"Nothing to see here, move
> >along "

> I reckon the big deal is that Papyrus Racing are the mothers and
> fathers of our greatest racing sims.

> That's all.

> If this doesn't make any sense to you, then please do indeed move
> along.

> j
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> J?rgen Sundvor Smith  mail: jorgen%smith.net

  Lol, so ?  If they're website existing has to prove that to you,
interesting.  Tell me, exactly what are you needing there, that isn't
available anywhere else ?
  Not like they're going to be making any more.....you know that, right ?
Ruud Dingeman

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by Ruud Dingeman » Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:08:37


>>I gathered they are working on a car physics SDK for console games, similar
>>to the Havoc physics for 3D first/3rd person shooters.
> Yuck...

Or,  in other words, GPL FOREVER!  Yee-haaaa...!    :)

Well, in the Papy world this year the focus could be right back on it
with the improved physics and reportedly much-improved driveability of
the 65 Mod.

Which, from the look of things, is seriously REAL Soon Now.  Think
Probably Not Even Weeks.

Regards, Rudy

Eldre

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by Eldre » Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:05:13


>>>I gathered they are working on a car physics SDK for console games, similar
>>>to the Havoc physics for 3D first/3rd person shooters.

>> Yuck...

>Or,  in other words, GPL FOREVER!  Yee-haaaa...!    :)

No, in other words I don't have a newer console system, so I don't care much
about console games.
And I haven't driven GPL since my New Year's GP.  My main GPL league folded,
then was reborn with the TPTCC mod.

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