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www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

Andi Col

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Andi Col » Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:28:12

Haven't Papyrus been shut down?

Andi.

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REDDo

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by REDDo » Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:36:45


> Hi,

> Is anyone else experiencing a redirect to vugames.com when trying to
> reach your favourite driving sim developers?

> What's up with that?

vugames is associated with Sierra.

Check upper right corner of this site:
http://games.sierra.com/games/racing2003/

DOG

Schoone

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Schoone » Sun, 11 Apr 2004 00:53:26

More like they own them than are associated with them.



> > Hi,

> > Is anyone else experiencing a redirect to vugames.com when trying to
> > reach your favourite driving sim developers?

> > What's up with that?

> vugames is associated with Sierra.

> Check upper right corner of this site:
> http://games.sierra.com/games/racing2003/

> DOG

> > Cheers,
> > J?rgen

SimRace

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by SimRace » Sun, 11 Apr 2004 04:53:45


Was it really an ownership situation? I thought Papy was Papy, and Sierra
was their publisher and Vivendi Universal was the parent company to Sierra.

Slug

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Slug » Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:59:00

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:53:45 GMT, "SimRacer"


>Was it really an ownership situation?

Yes, Sierra owned Payrus. Otherwise Papyrus would have probably made
Indycar3 and not just Nascar sims.
JP

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by JP » Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:59:25


> On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:53:45 GMT, "SimRacer"

> >Was it really an ownership situation?

> Yes, Sierra owned Payrus. Otherwise Papyrus would have probably made
> Indycar3 and not just Nascar sims.

    Uh, no.  Otherwise, (Nascar sims) Papy would have gone out of business
sooner then they have, and, shock, GPL would have most likely never seen the
light of day.
Andi Col

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Andi Col » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 01:06:45

I wonder what life would be like if GPL never made to the shops?

Andi.

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> > On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:53:45 GMT, "SimRacer"

> > >Was it really an ownership situation?

> > Yes, Sierra owned Payrus. Otherwise Papyrus would have probably made
> > Indycar3 and not just Nascar sims.

>     Uh, no.  Otherwise, (Nascar sims) Papy would have gone out of business
> sooner then they have, and, shock, GPL would have most likely never seen
the
> light of day.

REDDo

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by REDDo » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 01:33:53


> More like they own them than are associated with them.

Wrong. 'Associated with' is correct. Vivendi is Sierra's publisher.

DOG




>>> Hi,

>>> Is anyone else experiencing a redirect to vugames.com when trying to
>>> reach your favourite driving sim developers?

>>> What's up with that?

>> vugames is associated with Sierra.

>> Check upper right corner of this site:
>> http://games.sierra.com/games/racing2003/

>> DOG

>>> Cheers,
>>> J?rgen

Schoone

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Schoone » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:23:21

http://www.sierra.com/corporate_overview.do

"About Sierra Entertainment, Inc.
Sierra Entertainment, Inc., a studio of Vivendi Universal Games, is one of
the earliest developers and largest worldwide publishers of interactive
entertainment software. Based in Bellevue, Washington, Sierra has released
critically acclaimed and award-winning titles that represent a wide variety
of computer entertainment on game consoles and PC platforms."



> > More like they own them than are associated with them.

> Wrong. 'Associated with' is correct. Vivendi is Sierra's publisher.

> DOG




> >>> Hi,

> >>> Is anyone else experiencing a redirect to vugames.com when trying to
> >>> reach your favourite driving sim developers?

> >>> What's up with that?

> >> vugames is associated with Sierra.

> >> Check upper right corner of this site:
> >> http://games.sierra.com/games/racing2003/

> >> DOG

> >>> Cheers,
> >>> J?rgen

Schoone

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Schoone » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:27:32

http://home.tiscali.de/slydos/n/sierraenglish.htm

At the end of 1998 Cendant announces the sale of the Software Division to
the French company Havas, at that time France's largest media group. Havas
for their part was just bought by Vivendi, an enormous multinational group
in the water supply industry, which wants to enter the media and
telecommunications industry.

2000
Sierra gets further reorganized and more employees are fired. In the year
2000 Vivendi, Seagram and Canal+ form Vivendi Universal. Havas becomes
Vivendi Universal Publishing, to whose games-division beside Sierra On-Line
also Blizzard Entertainment and Universal Interactive Studios belong.

2002
Sierra On-Line is officially renamed into Sierra Entertainment, Inc..
Together with Blizzard Entertainment and Universal Interactive Sierra
Entertainment belongs to Vivendi Universal Games. They sell together
annually for more than 600 million US dollars.

2003
Vivendi Universal considers the sale of their video game section. It should
bring Vivendi Universal about 2 billion Euro. Still Vivendi's new boss Jean
Rene Fourtou has however not made a decision. For Fourtou the game section
does not belong to the core business and he wants to lower the company's
debts by this sale. The section works under the name of Vivendi Universal
Games Inc., belonges to Vivendi Universal Publishing and is at present the
second largest game company world-wide. Possible buyers are Microsoft, Sega
and Sony.


> http://www.sierra.com/corporate_overview.do

> "About Sierra Entertainment, Inc.
> Sierra Entertainment, Inc., a studio of Vivendi Universal Games, is one of
> the earliest developers and largest worldwide publishers of interactive
> entertainment software. Based in Bellevue, Washington, Sierra has released
> critically acclaimed and award-winning titles that represent a wide
variety
> of computer entertainment on game consoles and PC platforms."




> > > More like they own them than are associated with them.

> > Wrong. 'Associated with' is correct. Vivendi is Sierra's publisher.

> > DOG




> > >>> Hi,

> > >>> Is anyone else experiencing a redirect to vugames.com when trying to
> > >>> reach your favourite driving sim developers?

> > >>> What's up with that?

> > >> vugames is associated with Sierra.

> > >> Check upper right corner of this site:
> > >> http://games.sierra.com/games/racing2003/

> > >> DOG

> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> J?rgen

elrik

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by elrik » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:08:29


I'm not sure but  .  .  .
 .
 .
 .
 .

Wait for it  .  .  .

 .
 .
 .
 .
 .

I'm pretty sure it would be no GPL.   ;o)

Elrikk

PS  Sorry, but I couldn't resist.

Slug

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Slug » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 05:48:43


>    Uh, no.  Otherwise, (Nascar sims) Papy would have gone out of business
>sooner then they have, and, shock, GPL would have most likely never seen the
>light of day.

Sierra bought them post GPL, dumbass.
Slug

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Slug » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 05:58:38


>    Uh, no.  Otherwise, (Nascar sims) Papy would have gone out of business
>sooner then they have, and, shock, GPL would have most likely never seen the
>light of day.

p.s. Don't question my superior knowledge in such a condescending
manner again.

http://www.sierra.com/partner_studios.do
Today, Sierra develops games through development teams located at
Sierra's headquarters in Bellevue, Washington, and two *wholly owned*
game development studios, Papyrus Racing Games and Impressions Games.

Dave Henri

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Dave Henri » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:48:51




>> I wonder what life would be like if GPL never made to the shops?

>> Andi.

> I'm not sure but  .  .  .
>  .
>  .
>  .
>  .

> Wait for it  .  .  .

>  .
>  .
>  .
>  .
>  .

> I'm pretty sure it would be no GPL.   ;o)

> Elrikk

> PS  Sorry, but I couldn't resist.

    Right about now we'd be raving about the just released Microprose Grand
Prix 2 part 3.  We'd be raving about the head to head modem play.  We'd be
in love with uneditable tracks.  We'd cry with joy over single axis
controller setups.  
dh
Dave Henri

www.papy.com -> www.vugames.com (WTF ??)

by Dave Henri » Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:54:28

Slug

  My original 3d/cutout box for Indycar II has no mention of Sierra, it has
only Papyrus on the spline.  But my next original box, the foldout Nascar 2
has Sierra splattered all over it.  Did GPL predate N2?  
   Did Vroc come about BEFORE Hawaii?

dave henrie


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