rec.autos.simulators

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

Stuart Nicholso

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Stuart Nicholso » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:15:03

Anyone got any feedback yet on Windows XP and Pro XP with all the Emulators
out there.? I'm into quite afew and would hate to lose them.
quoth0

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by quoth0 » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:38:54

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:15:03 +0800, "Stuart Nicholson"


>Anyone got any feedback yet on Windows XP and Pro XP with all the Emulators
>out there.? I'm into quite afew and would hate to lose them.

dos is not an option.
Andre

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Andre » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:36:07

simulators does not equal emulators.  Perhaps you should try to target your
posts better?


Anu

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Anu » Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:53:45

epsxe works vgs does ot .. most windwos programs work.. basically, anyting
that ran under Nt and windows 2000 will work under win xp.  you cannot use
any dos programs since dos technically does not exist anymore in windows

-anu

> On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:15:03 +0800, "Stuart Nicholson"

> >Anyone got any feedback yet on Windows XP and Pro XP with all the
Emulators
> >out there.? I'm into quite afew and would hate to lose them.

> dos is not an option.

Mr Tuvo

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Mr Tuvo » Mon, 27 Aug 2001 01:44:51

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:15:03 +0800, "Stuart Nicholson"


>Anyone got any feedback yet on Windows XP and Pro XP with all the Emulators
>out there.? I'm into quite afew and would hate to lose them.

Since I also have the same question, allow me to interpet:
Will Windows XP run driving games, sims, emulators or whatever with
force feedback?
Mortad

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Mortad » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:12:01



>On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:15:03 +0800, "Stuart Nicholson"

>>Anyone got any feedback yet on Windows XP and Pro XP with all the Emulators
>>out there.? I'm into quite afew and would hate to lose them.

>Since I also have the same question, allow me to interpet:
>Will Windows XP run driving games, sims, emulators or whatever with
>force feedback?

No problems running the last few versions of MAME 32 for me on XP RC
2. In addition, all of my Windows based racing sims work well. XP
comes with drivers for the Logitech Formula Force and FF is
implemented fine.
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JR McVick

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by JR McVick » Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:41:30

Bastards!  They killed DOS! :)

> On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:15:03 +0800, "Stuart Nicholson"

> >Anyone got any feedback yet on Windows XP and Pro XP with all the Emulators
> >out there.? I'm into quite afew and would hate to lose them.

> dos is not an option.

Wm Condi

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Wm Condi » Sat, 08 Sep 2001 09:28:01


B2 is just fine.

SoftMac is  . . . well, SoftMac . . .

And farewell Fusion. But you could make a DOS partition with Partition
Magic7

Jordan Wals

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Jordan Wals » Sat, 22 Sep 2001 00:45:26

But they have dos emulation!!!

> Bastards!  They killed DOS! :)




> > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:15:03 +0800, "Stuart Nicholson"

> > >Anyone got any feedback yet on Windows XP and Pro XP with all the
Emulators
> > >out there.? I'm into quite afew and would hate to lose them.

> > dos is not an option.

solarfo

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by solarfo » Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:29:56


>>>> Anyone got any feedback yet on Windows XP and Pro XP with all the
>>>> Emulators out there.? I'm into quite afew and would hate to lose them.
>>> dos is not an option.
>> Bastards!  They killed DOS! :)
>But they have dos emulation!!!

        You know, the real answer to this problem is quite simple...  don't
buy, install, or use Windows XP. :)  Even the usually
gung-ho-over-Microsoft industry trade publications are writing reviews
which say, in essence, that they see no compelling reason for most people
to upgrade to it, and are being very critical of this product-activation
scheme, so - just don't do it.  Keep your old Win98SE CD's, and if your new
computer comes with WinXP installed - erase it and load Win98SE instead. :)
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Mindfiel

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Mindfiel » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:17:18



Works great for me.  Excellent stability, great speed, and fantastic
compatibility.  Probably not quite as great shakes for Win2K users,
but I'd reccommend that anyone stick their WinME CDs in the microwave
for a few minutes -- during which they should install XP.  Maybe even
98 users... the 9x series has always had utterly brain-dead memory
management.

Still, though I've had a few problems with a select few emulators, the
vast majority thus far have run as good or better than they did on
WinME (DOS emulators in particular).  I'm not ordinarily the sort of
person to say anything nice about Microsoft products -- if anything, I
could have written a book of profanities directed at Microsoft by now.
XP however has impressed me enough to actually install, run, and
<gasp> LIKE it. And that's something I _never_ thought I'd do to a
Microsoft product.  Like it, that is.

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>know what you just started.

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Dave Ryerso

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Dave Ryerso » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:16:14

On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 04:17:18 GMT, Mindfield


>XP however has impressed me enough to actually install, run, and
><gasp> LIKE it. And that's something I _never_ thought I'd do to a
>Microsoft product.  Like it, that is.

I just read a review of XP last night that someone posted a link to in
this group and except for one game, Win98 ran them faster. For gamers
I think Win98 is better. Any memorry mangement problems can be
overcome in Win9x with a tweak or two. Besides, that XP activation
scheme makes it a no-buy for me - ever.
Mindfiel

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Mindfiel » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 05:05:17



>On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 04:17:18 GMT, Mindfield

>I just read a review of XP last night that someone posted a link to in
>this group and except for one game, Win98 ran them faster. For gamers
>I think Win98 is better. Any memorry mangement problems can be
>overcome in Win9x with a tweak or two.

I tweaked my system to hell and back and never once improved stability
in my system.  and I looked for every tweak I could find to improve
system performance and stability.  No matter what I tried, I still
have to reboot multiple times daily as resources dwindled to nothing
on a regular and frequent basis.  As far as speed is concerned, I
noticed no significant performance hit.  Those with minimal amounts of
memory (64-128mb) might notice slowdowns as XP does require more
memory to run, and therefore leaves less for applications and games to
use.  I ran Max Payne on both XP and Me on my Duron 700Mhz,  384mb
PC133 RAM and a GeForce 2 MX AGP (32mb) and noticed no performance hit
at all.  Everything ran very smoothly.  My older Voodoo3 card didn't
work worth a damn -- but that was a driver issue, and third party
hacks notwithstanding, there are, and never will be, official updated
Glide drivers for XP.  No big deal to me, though; I'd been meaning to
upgrade that card to a GeForce anyway.

Activation can be a bit of a pain, but for the most part it's not as
bad as everyone thinks.

1) No private information is sent.  Only an encrypted string
containing numerical values representing your system configuration at
the time of activation.
2) Although you may not change more than 3 components under XP without
re-activating, this configuration snapshot is reset every 120 days.
Every 120 days, a new snapshot is taken of your config, providing you
with a further three, activation-free upgrades to the system.  Only
major components are recorded: Hard disk(s), video card, sound card,
modem, NIC, RAM, CPU, CD-ROM/R/DVD-ROM/R, motherboard, and monitor.
USB, removable (ZIP/JAZ/SHARQ, etc.) and other external devices, such
as mice, scanners, printers, cable/DSL modems (only the NIC is
recorded), and *** devices, are not recorded.  For portable
computers (Laptops/notebooks) the upgrade limit is 6, not 3.  In
addition, the Windows license provides installation on one desktop and
one portable device simultaneously with a single XP package.  The 120
day rule also applies to portable devices, and its activation is not
based on system configuration; instead, it records the BIOS
information and uses that for a snapshot.  This means swappable
notebook devices (CD/DVD-ROM/Floppy, as well as PCMCIA devices) do not
affect your activation at all.

Now, I'm not condoning WPA -- I still think it's a bad idea and will
work to hurt sales of the OS, but despite that, I think the benefits
of XP over previous consumer versions of the Windows OS (NT/2000
notwithstanding) far outweigh the inconvenience of WPA.  NT/2000 users
do have reasons to upgrade to XP, but I think in the end those reasons
are probably not significant enough to make it worth the while for
many happy NT/2K users.  The strongest seller for XP I think is its
stability.  NT/2000 already enjoy this, but 9x/Me users will find
infinitely greater stability and control over misbehaved applications
than they ever did with 9x/Me, and _NO_ resource leaks and frequent
reboots.  I can run for weeks without requiring a single reboot,
something I could only ever dream about with previous versions of
Windows, and even installing newer software packages using Windows
Installer or newer versions of Installshield/WISE don't require
rebooting to complete installation, as registered components integrate
dynamically and immediately into the system, not at reboot.  The only
time rebooting is needed for tasks requiring that an active, locked
drive be dismounted (such as converting to/from NTFS, or
resizing/altering partitions in Partition Magic).  And the
compatibility, all things considered, is outstanding, surpassing 2K by
light years, and even giving greatly improved compatibility over Me --
I'm able to run stuff Me choked to death on.

I think that for the first time in my life, even if Microsoft weren't
giving me a copy for free, I'd still buy it.  For once, it's actually
worth my money.

Mindfield
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Batea

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Batea » Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:48:18

hola Mindfield, soy una robusteza!

Can you run DOS programs in it?
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Mindfiel

Windows XP Pro and Emulators?

by Mindfiel » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 15:27:44

On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:48:18 +0800, Bateau


>Can you run DOS programs in it?

I've had good luck with it.  A great many games and most emulators
seem to run just fine.  There are some I've had problems getting to
work properly, but those have usually been attributed to conventional
memory, sound, and/or video card issues.  Overall though I've been
able to run more old DOS stuff than I was able to get working on
WinMe.

Mindfield
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