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> >Oh, there is one thing that is a problem for me. You cannot make
> >very quick major steering changes with this wheel. i.e. VERY quick
> >opposite lock. You run up against the internals, not sure what it
> >is but it really drags. Not a huge issue in GPL (although it has
> >meant the difference between saving it and losing it at least 4-5
> >times, once in a race). I'm wondering if this will cause me a
> >problem in games such as Rallymasters, CMR2 etc.

> I posted the above here in r.a.s. back in mid February.

> Well, as the bl**dy thing packed up on me earlier I thought I'd
> update you.

> As it says above, you cannot make swift direction changes without
> running up against the internals. I have found it a problem on a
> few occasions in GPL but with a 12:1 steering ratio I've generally
> been able to avoid it.

> However, when I have run up against it I have noticed a clicking
> sound, like the nylons cogs where slipping. I'd only had this a
> few times and generally it didn't seem to effect the steering.

> Anyway, my eldest son came around the other day and I showed him
> Super 1 Karting Simulation. This is a pretty good Kart sim but
> in karting you need to make very swift direction changes. I am
> a bit more subtle than my son, who uses a Non-FF wheel. Anyway
> he ran up against these cogs a few times so I kicked him off it.

> It was now more prevalent and anything more than slowish movement
> would cause this sound. In Pre-Qual for today race it was happening
> all thew time for the first half lap then all FF disappeared
> completely, not even a centering spring. Now all I get is the motor
> whirring and no FF.

> So, basically it's bust, in less than 3 months use. While it lasted
> it was a good wheel, but my suspicions about it's use with games
> requiring fast steering movement has been proven. It could be that
> mine was a bad example.

> Anyone else out there with a Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel have similar
> observations?

> Maxx

> >Oh, there is one thing that is a problem for me. You cannot make
> >very quick major steering changes with this wheel. i.e. VERY quick
> >opposite lock. You run up against the internals, not sure what it
> >is but it really drags. Not a huge issue in GPL (although it has
> >meant the difference between saving it and losing it at least 4-5
> >times, once in a race). I'm wondering if this will cause me a
> >problem in games such as Rallymasters, CMR2 etc.

> I posted the above here in r.a.s. back in mid February.

> Well, as the bl**dy thing packed up on me earlier I thought I'd
> update you.

> As it says above, you cannot make swift direction changes without
> running up against the internals. I have found it a problem on a
> few occasions in GPL but with a 12:1 steering ratio I've generally
> been able to avoid it.

> However, when I have run up against it I have noticed a clicking
> sound, like the nylons cogs where slipping. I'd only had this a
> few times and generally it didn't seem to effect the steering.

> Anyway, my eldest son came around the other day and I showed him
> Super 1 Karting Simulation. This is a pretty good Kart sim but
> in karting you need to make very swift direction changes. I am
> a bit more subtle than my son, who uses a Non-FF wheel. Anyway
> he ran up against these cogs a few times so I kicked him off it.

> It was now more prevalent and anything more than slowish movement
> would cause this sound. In Pre-Qual for today race it was happening
> all thew time for the first half lap then all FF disappeared
> completely, not even a centering spring. Now all I get is the motor
> whirring and no FF.

> So, basically it's bust, in less than 3 months use. While it lasted
> it was a good wheel, but my suspicions about it's use with games
> requiring fast steering movement has been proven. It could be that
> mine was a bad example.

> Anyone else out there with a Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel have similar
> observations?

> Maxx

> > >Oh, there is one thing that is a problem for me. You cannot make
> > >very quick major steering changes with this wheel. i.e. VERY quick
> > >opposite lock. You run up against the internals, not sure what it
> > >is but it really drags. Not a huge issue in GPL (although it has
> > >meant the difference between saving it and losing it at least 4-5
> > >times, once in a race). I'm wondering if this will cause me a
> > >problem in games such as Rallymasters, CMR2 etc.

> > I posted the above here in r.a.s. back in mid February.

> > Well, as the bl**dy thing packed up on me earlier I thought I'd
> > update you.

> > As it says above, you cannot make swift direction changes without
> > running up against the internals. I have found it a problem on a
> > few occasions in GPL but with a 12:1 steering ratio I've generally
> > been able to avoid it.

> > However, when I have run up against it I have noticed a clicking
> > sound, like the nylons cogs where slipping. I'd only had this a
> > few times and generally it didn't seem to effect the steering.

> > Anyway, my eldest son came around the other day and I showed him
> > Super 1 Karting Simulation. This is a pretty good Kart sim but
> > in karting you need to make very swift direction changes. I am
> > a bit more subtle than my son, who uses a Non-FF wheel. Anyway
> > he ran up against these cogs a few times so I kicked him off it.

> > It was now more prevalent and anything more than slowish movement
> > would cause this sound. In Pre-Qual for today race it was happening
> > all thew time for the first half lap then all FF disappeared
> > completely, not even a centering spring. Now all I get is the motor
> > whirring and no FF.

> > So, basically it's bust, in less than 3 months use. While it lasted
> > it was a good wheel, but my suspicions about it's use with games
> > requiring fast steering movement has been proven. It could be that
> > mine was a bad example.

> > Anyone else out there with a Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel have similar
> > observations?

> > Maxx

>>Don't think so - I haven't had any problems either.  Constantly banging the
>>wheel lock to lock is gonna bust it eventually, sure.  Just like doing it in
>>your real car will eventually bust it.  The solution: don't! :)

>>    -Phasor

>I've since heard from a couple of other Guillemot users who have never
>had this "resistance" that I found. It's not banging the wheel from
>to lock, it's more to do with speed of movement, even moving it 1/4
>lock but very quickly I had this resistance. And lately this has what
>has produced this clicking sound.

> > Regards

> I also have the wheel and I love it.
> Yes there is a problem when steering very very very fast. But I never had a
> problem with it while racing. I never ever steer that fast in a sim. I never
> need to.

> The wheel is great. The pedals suck but I connected some old thrustmaster
> pedals to my gameport and it's great. I can now use the analogue flaps on
> the wheel for using the clutch. Awesome. The force feedback effects are very
> good and the steering range is great. Not too far like with the act labs but
> better than the original logitech.

> > > >Oh, there is one thing that is a problem for me. You cannot make
> > > >very quick major steering changes with this wheel. i.e. VERY quick
> > > >opposite lock. You run up against the internals, not sure what it
> > > >is but it really drags. Not a huge issue in GPL (although it has
> > > >meant the difference between saving it and losing it at least 4-5
> > > >times, once in a race). I'm wondering if this will cause me a
> > > >problem in games such as Rallymasters, CMR2 etc.

> > > I posted the above here in r.a.s. back in mid February.

> > > Well, as the bl**dy thing packed up on me earlier I thought I'd
> > > update you.

> > > As it says above, you cannot make swift direction changes without
> > > running up against the internals. I have found it a problem on a
> > > few occasions in GPL but with a 12:1 steering ratio I've generally
> > > been able to avoid it.

> > > However, when I have run up against it I have noticed a clicking
> > > sound, like the nylons cogs where slipping. I'd only had this a
> > > few times and generally it didn't seem to effect the steering.

> > > Anyway, my eldest son came around the other day and I showed him
> > > Super 1 Karting Simulation. This is a pretty good Kart sim but
> > > in karting you need to make very swift direction changes. I am
> > > a bit more subtle than my son, who uses a Non-FF wheel. Anyway
> > > he ran up against these cogs a few times so I kicked him off it.

> > > It was now more prevalent and anything more than slowish movement
> > > would cause this sound. In Pre-Qual for today race it was happening
> > > all thew time for the first half lap then all FF disappeared
> > > completely, not even a centering spring. Now all I get is the motor
> > > whirring and no FF.

> > > So, basically it's bust, in less than 3 months use. While it lasted
> > > it was a good wheel, but my suspicions about it's use with games
> > > requiring fast steering movement has been proven. It could be that
> > > mine was a bad example.

> > > Anyone else out there with a Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel have similar
> > > observations?

> > > Maxx

> >>Don't think so - I haven't had any problems either.  Constantly banging
the
> >>wheel lock to lock is gonna bust it eventually, sure.  Just like doing
it in
> >>your real car will eventually bust it.  The solution: don't! :)

> >>    -Phasor

> >I've since heard from a couple of other Guillemot users who have never
> >had this "resistance" that I found. It's not banging the wheel from
> >to lock, it's more to do with speed of movement, even moving it 1/4
> >lock but very quickly I had this resistance. And lately this has what
> >has produced this clicking sound.

> Yes Maxx, my Thrustmaster Ferrari wheel does the same.  It happens
> during ultra fast attempts at changing the wheel direction over about a
> 45+ degree of change.  I get a sudden resistance that isn't there during
> normal smooth or shorter steering changes.  I've been wondering whether
> it is to do with the gain settings in the controllers app.  In my case,
> because I haven't got FF enabled, I've reduced all those settings down
> to zero and the 'Default Spring' down to 8% so far, but still feel it.
> Will try reducing DS down to 0% to see if it goes away.
> --
> Peter Ives
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