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GPL steering twitch with FF

Jeffrey Row

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Jeffrey Row » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:18:48

I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch
to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the
very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just
one or two frames in the replay. But it's *** enough to cause a swerve
(a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I hold
the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the
Windows FF controller properties, with no success.

I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows
2000. It does it on both machines.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

--Jeff

Sideshow Bo

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Sideshow Bo » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:55:26


: I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows
: 2000. It does it on both machines.
:

Same here, two totally different machines, LWFF USB.  I'll get it in GP3 and
F12K as well.  The only common thing between my two machines is the SBLive
sound card.  I've disabled the gameport but it still happens.

FWIW, I used to see it with a different wheel too, so it's not the LWFF.
I've just adjusted my FF settings and live with it now.

[ Joy ]
allow_force_feedback = 1                 ; Use FF if device has it
force_feedback_damping = 40.000000       ; force feedback damping
coefficient
force_feedback_latency = 0.00        ; force feedback latency (secs)
max_steering_torque = 400.000000         ; steering torque in N*in giving
max device force

SB.

Jesper Rasmusse

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Jesper Rasmusse » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:03:19

On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:18:48 -0400, "Jeffrey Rowe"


>I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch
>to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the
>very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just
>one or two frames in the replay. But it's *** enough to cause a swerve
>(a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I hold
>the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the
>Windows FF controller properties, with no success.

Same story here :-(

I also have the Wingman FF GP and have the same problems.

Tried different drivers for the wheel, the chipset, the videocard etc.
etc.
Tried removing all addoncards except the videocard (Asus V7100 Geforce
2MX).
Tried another FF GP.
Tried reinstalling everything including Windows.

Nothing helped, but I seems to me (I'm not sure) that the problem was
worse with my old Asus A7Pro mobo - I now have a A7V and the two
boards are basicly the same, but my A7V is of a newer revision.

--

/Jesper Rasmussen
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Jesper Rasmusse

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Jesper Rasmusse » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:04:42

On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:18:48 -0400, "Jeffrey Rowe"


>I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch
>to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the
>very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just
>one or two frames in the replay. But it's *** enough to cause a swerve
>(a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I hold
>the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the
>Windows FF controller properties, with no success.

Same story here :-(

I also have the Wingman FF GP and have the same problems.

Tried different drivers for the wheel, the chipset, the videocard etc.
etc.
Tried removing all addoncards except the videocard (Asus V7100 Geforce
2MX).
Tried another FF GP.
Tried reinstalling everything including Windows.

Nothing helped, but I seems to me (I'm not sure) that the problem was
worse with my old Asus A7Pro mobo - I now have a A7V and the two
boards are basicly the same, but my A7V is of a newer revision.

--

/Jesper Rasmussen
OBS: Remove -NOWAY- from emailaddress before replying.

rik anthra

GPL steering twitch with FF

by rik anthra » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:26:31

same here!!
LWFF, twitch!

Ian Minogue-Corp

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Ian Minogue-Corp » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:25:20

hey guys, could anyone of you send me their core.ini so i can get my MS FF
working.:-)
please
Ian
Sid Chappl

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Sid Chappl » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:30:11

Set the camber for right and left front wheels as close together as possible
and try it. Twitch should go away.
Sid.


Marc Collin

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Marc Collin » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:35:29

Are you guys with this problem using USB or serial port?

Marc.


Douglas Elliso

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:28:24

I have this with an MSFF (joystick port) under Win 2K - is it my SB LIve
Plat?!?!

Doug


Jeffrey Row

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Jeffrey Row » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:42:12

USB


> Are you guys with this problem using USB or serial port?

> Marc.



> > I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will
twitch
> > to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the
> > very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick,
just
> > one or two frames in the replay. But it's *** enough to cause a
swerve
> > (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I
> hold
> > the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and
the
> > Windows FF controller properties, with no success.

> > I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows
> > 2000. It does it on both machines.

> > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

> > --Jeff

J

GPL steering twitch with FF

by J » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:57:58

As somebody already mentioned, it could be the camber setting.

On the other hand your steering pot could be worn/damaged.

JensSchumi



<snip>
---------------------------------------------
LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/

GPLRank: -10.1
Monsters of GPL: sub 200

Douglas Elliso

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:57:57

Not with the optical stuf inside my MSFF - and I get this.

I also get it banging me down a gear, or looking left or right quickly

Doug




> >I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will
twitch
> >to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the
> <snip>
> ---------------------------------------------
> LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
> http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/

> GPLRank: -10.1
> Monsters of GPL: sub 200

fistyc..

GPL steering twitch with FF

by fistyc.. » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:50:22

have you check to se if poll with interrupts is checked if it is
uncheck it see if that helps i had a twitch like. that this help me
.it may not help you but is worth a try

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:35:29 GMT, "Marc Collins"


>Are you guys with this problem using USB or serial port?

>Marc.



>> I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch
>> to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the
>> very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just
>> one or two frames in the replay. But it's *** enough to cause a swerve
>> (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I
>hold
>> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the
>> Windows FF controller properties, with no success.

>> I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows
>> 2000. It does it on both machines.

>> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

>> --Jeff

Daniel Froi

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Daniel Froi » Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:57:14

Hi. I got this too when I first got my LWFF. I changed the
force_feedback_damping = 1200.000000 (default value) on core.ini to nearly 0,
and it went away. Try it and see.

DF


> I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch
> to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the
> very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just
> one or two frames in the replay. But it's *** enough to cause a swerve
> (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I hold
> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the
> Windows FF controller properties, with no success.

> I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows
> 2000. It does it on both machines.

> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

> --Jeff

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Jeffrey Row

GPL steering twitch with FF

by Jeffrey Row » Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:09:49

Where do I check that?


> have you check to se if poll with interrupts is checked if it is
> uncheck it see if that helps i had a twitch like. that this help me
> .it may not help you but is worth a try

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:35:29 GMT, "Marc Collins"

> >Are you guys with this problem using USB or serial port?

> >Marc.



> >> I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will
twitch
> >> to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at
the
> >> very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick,
just
> >> one or two frames in the replay. But it's *** enough to cause a
swerve
> >> (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I
> >hold
> >> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and
the
> >> Windows FF controller properties, with no success.

> >> I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows
> >> 2000. It does it on both machines.

> >> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

> >> --Jeff


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