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I've read a great deal lately about cheats, aids and crazy setups. Let me relate what happened during the Latest TSW 500 Qualifying using N2002.
My qualifying speeds were in the 183.3 range and I was struggling. I spoke with Don who gave me a hand ful of tips, none of which had anything to do with my setup.His advice had to do with the driving line (tight against the wall), use of steering assistance so I could stick on the wall, my pots, steering linearty, and grounding my wheel. I did everything he suggested (except grounding the wheel) and wah la, 183.7's & 8's. At that point I went from about 120 to the top 25 and stood on my 1st round qual speed. Afterward I grounded the wheel and went to the high 183.9's.
The ironic part is I never changed my setup, never !!!! .
I think a lot of people get hung up on the way they feel things should be. Believe me, this sim is no different than the real deal, the top competitors take every advantage available to them, and then some. If you don't believe that ask yourself, why was the 20 car impounded this weekend or why are the electronics are in plain view, ah, were teams using traction control ?. You tell me.
Like Todd Parrott said a few years back after dominating Daytona, quit crying and get the tool box out. A lot of people on this newsgroup would do well to take the same advice.

J

Thanks Jimmy

If you cant think of out the box.  Do the opposite of others just to see what happens.  You will
never get faster.

DW

  I've read a great deal lately about cheats, aids and crazy setups. Let me relate what happened during the Latest TSW 500 Qualifying using N2002.
  My qualifying speeds were in the 183.3 range and I was struggling. I spoke with Don who gave me a hand ful of tips, none of which had anything to do with my setup.His advice had to do with the driving line (tight against the wall), use of steering assistance so I could stick on the wall, my pots, steering linearty, and grounding my wheel. I did everything he suggested (except grounding the wheel) and wah la, 183.7's & 8's. At that point I went from about 120 to the top 25 and stood on my 1st round qual speed. Afterward I grounded the wheel and went to the high 183.9's.
  The ironic part is I never changed my setup, never !!!! .
  I think a lot of people get hung up on the way they feel things should be. Believe me, this sim is no different than the real deal, the top competitors take every advantage available to them, and then some. If you don't believe that ask yourself, why was the 20 car impounded this weekend or why are the electronics are in plain view, ah, were teams using traction control ?. You tell me.
  Like Todd Parrott said a few years back after dominating Daytona, quit crying and get the tool box out. A lot of people on this newsgroup would do well to take the same advice.

  J

No offense meant, but I feel the use of steering asst is a cheat.  For those guys who are driving on thier own ability and didn't make it, I am sure they would feel the same way.  As for the crazy setup stuff, I guess if it's in the setup options so be it.  I am hopeful that the whole issue will be put to bed soon with a true *** patch.  Then leagues that want to run it can and the rest can run whatever they want, problem solved.

Chad

    I've read a great deal lately about cheats, aids and crazy setups. Let me relate what happened during the Latest TSW 500 Qualifying using N2002.
    My qualifying speeds were in the 183.3 range and I was struggling. I spoke with Don who gave me a hand ful of tips, none of which had anything to do with my setup.His advice had to do with the driving line (tight against the wall), use of steering assistance so I could stick on the wall, my pots, steering linearty, and grounding my wheel. I did everything he suggested (except grounding the wheel) and wah la, 183.7's & 8's. At that point I went from about 120 to the top 25 and stood on my 1st round qual speed. Afterward I grounded the wheel and went to the high 183.9's.
    The ironic part is I never changed my setup, never !!!! .
    I think a lot of people get hung up on the way they feel things should be. Believe me, this sim is no different than the real deal, the top competitors take every advantage available to them, and then some. If you don't believe that ask yourself, why was the 20 car impounded this weekend or why are the electronics are in plain view, ah, were teams using traction control ?. You tell me.
    Like Todd Parrott said a few years back after dominating Daytona, quit crying and get the tool box out. A lot of people on this newsgroup would do well to take the same advice.

    J

Your Point Chad..  

I wonder how many of the over 636 that entered TSW500 cheaters.. lol

How to make friends. lol.. I would say you offended about 300 to 400 people
DW

  No offense meant, but I feel the use of steering asst is a cheat.  For those guys who are driving on thier own ability and didn't make it, I am sure they would feel the same way.  As for the crazy setup stuff, I guess if it's in the setup options so be it.  I am hopeful that the whole issue will be put to bed soon with a true *** patch.  Then leagues that want to run it can and the rest can run whatever they want, problem solved.

  Chad

      I've read a great deal lately about cheats, aids and crazy setups. Let me relate what happened during the Latest TSW 500 Qualifying using N2002.
      My qualifying speeds were in the 183.3 range and I was struggling. I spoke with Don who gave me a hand ful of tips, none of which had anything to do with my setup.His advice had to do with the driving line (tight against the wall), use of steering assistance so I could stick on the wall, my pots, steering linearty, and grounding my wheel. I did everything he suggested (except grounding the wheel) and wah la, 183.7's & 8's. At that point I went from about 120 to the top 25 and stood on my 1st round qual speed. Afterward I grounded the wheel and went to the high 183.9's.
      The ironic part is I never changed my setup, never !!!! .
      I think a lot of people get hung up on the way they feel things should be. Believe me, this sim is no different than the real deal, the top competitors take every advantage available to them, and then some. If you don't believe that ask yourself, why was the 20 car impounded this weekend or why are the electronics are in plain view, ah, were teams using traction control ?. You tell me.
      Like Todd Parrott said a few years back after dominating Daytona, quit crying and get the tool box out. A lot of people on this newsgroup would do well to take the same advice.

      J

Did he suggest running into the walls with both sides so your car would be
narrower?

I thought you never used Aids Don?  According to this guy you actually suggested using them

Anyway please explain how to "ground" the wheel.

  Your Point Chad..  

  I wonder how many of the over 636 that entered TSW500 cheaters.. lol

  How to make friends. lol.. I would say you offended about 300 to 400 people
  DW

    No offense meant, but I feel the use of steering asst is a cheat.  For those guys who are driving on thier own ability and didn't make it, I am sure they would feel the same way.  As for the crazy setup stuff, I guess if it's in the setup options so be it.  I am hopeful that the whole issue will be put to bed soon with a true *** patch.  Then leagues that want to run it can and the rest can run whatever they want, problem solved.

    Chad

        I've read a great deal lately about cheats, aids and crazy setups. Let me relate what happened during the Latest TSW 500 Qualifying using N2002.
        My qualifying speeds were in the 183.3 range and I was struggling. I spoke with Don who gave me a hand ful of tips, none of which had anything to do with my setup.His advice had to do with the driving line (tight against the wall), use of steering assistance so I could stick on the wall, my pots, steering linearty, and grounding my wheel. I did everything he suggested (except grounding the wheel) and wah la, 183.7's & 8's. At that point I went from about 120 to the top 25 and stood on my 1st round qual speed. Afterward I grounded the wheel and went to the high 183.9's.
        The ironic part is I never changed my setup, never !!!! .
        I think a lot of people get hung up on the way they feel things should be. Believe me, this sim is no different than the real deal, the top competitors take every advantage available to them, and then some. If you don't believe that ask yourself, why was the 20 car impounded this weekend or why are the electronics are in plain view, ah, were teams using traction control ?. You tell me.
        Like Todd Parrott said a few years back after dominating Daytona, quit crying and get the tool box out. A lot of people on this newsgroup would do well to take the same advice.

        J

Your brain dead KK.. I said I used them in N2002.  Because it was suppose to be slower. Didnt want to
scare myself on the high speed tracks.   But than I tried them on Nascar 2003 and it ran good.. but
when the likes of you siggested it was wrong.. i turned off the aides and went faster.. DW
I have said this about 15 times.. do you ever read my post.. lol.

dw

  I thought you never used Aids Don?  According to this guy you actually suggested using them

  Anyway please explain how to "ground" the wheel.

    Your Point Chad..  

    I wonder how many of the over 636 that entered TSW500 cheaters.. lol

    How to make friends. lol.. I would say you offended about 300 to 400 people
    DW

      No offense meant, but I feel the use of steering asst is a cheat.  For those guys who are driving on thier own ability and didn't make it, I am sure they would feel the same way.  As for the crazy setup stuff, I guess if it's in the setup options so be it.  I am hopeful that the whole issue will be put to bed soon with a true *** patch.  Then leagues that want to run it can and the rest can run whatever they want, problem solved.

      Chad

          I've read a great deal lately about cheats, aids and crazy setups. Let me relate what happened during the Latest TSW 500 Qualifying using N2002.
          My qualifying speeds were in the 183.3 range and I was struggling. I spoke with Don who gave me a hand ful of tips, none of which had anything to do with my setup.His advice had to do with the driving line (tight against the wall), use of steering assistance so I could stick on the wall, my pots, steering linearty, and grounding my wheel. I did everything he suggested (except grounding the wheel) and wah la, 183.7's & 8's. At that point I went from about 120 to the top 25 and stood on my 1st round qual speed. Afterward I grounded the wheel and went to the high 183.9's.
          The ironic part is I never changed my setup, never !!!! .
          I think a lot of people get hung up on the way they feel things should be. Believe me, this sim is no different than the real deal, the top competitors take every advantage available to them, and then some. If you don't believe that ask yourself, why was the 20 car impounded this weekend or why are the electronics are in plain view, ah, were teams using traction control ?. You tell me.
          Like Todd Parrott said a few years back after dominating Daytona, quit crying and get the tool box out. A lot of people on this newsgroup would do well to take the same advice.

          J

Chad

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"scare" yourself?   oh please Don.

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Ground the wheel?!? How? Why? By what physics principle does it improve your speed? Just curious, after all those years of online racing, that's the first time I hear that!

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  I've read a great deal lately about cheats, aids and crazy setups. Let me relate what happened during the Latest TSW 500 Qualifying using N2002.
  My qualifying speeds were in the 183.3 range and I was struggling. I spoke with Don who gave me a hand ful of tips, none of which had anything to do with my setup.His advice had to do with the driving line (tight against the wall), use of steering assistance so I could stick on the wall, my pots, steering linearty, and grounding my wheel. I did everything he suggested (except grounding the wheel) and wah la, 183.7's & 8's. At that point I went from about 120 to the top 25 and stood on my 1st round qual speed. Afterward I grounded the wheel and went to the high 183.9's.
  The ironic part is I never changed my setup, never !!!! .
  I think a lot of people get hung up on the way they feel things should be. Believe me, this sim is no different than the real deal, the top competitors take every advantage available to them, and then some. If you don't believe that ask yourself, why was the 20 car impounded this weekend or why are the electronics are in plain view, ah, were teams using traction control ?. You tell me.
  Like Todd Parrott said a few years back after dominating Daytona, quit crying and get the tool box out. A lot of people on this newsgroup would do well to take the same advice.

  J

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I tell you experts that dont understand what static electricity buildup can do to the operational aspects of a POT..

Just ground it..

Don

It wont jump.. Thats static... not a bad pot

  Ground the wheel?!? How? Why? By what physics principle does it improve your speed? Just curious, after all those years of online racing, that's the first time I hear that!

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  Philippe "Philster" Sergerie

    I've read a great deal lately about cheats, aids and crazy setups. Let me relate what happened during the Latest TSW 500 Qualifying using N2002.
    My qualifying speeds were in the 183.3 range and I was struggling. I spoke with Don who gave me a hand ful of tips, none of which had anything to do with my setup.His advice had to do with the driving line (tight against the wall), use of steering assistance so I could stick on the wall, my pots, steering linearty, and grounding my wheel. I did everything he suggested (except grounding the wheel) and wah la, 183.7's & 8's. At that point I went from about 120 to the top 25 and stood on my 1st round qual speed. Afterward I grounded the wheel and went to the high 183.9's.
    The ironic part is I never changed my setup, never !!!! .
    I think a lot of people get hung up on the way they feel things should be. Believe me, this sim is no different than the real deal, the top competitors take every advantage available to them, and then some. If you don't believe that ask yourself, why was the 20 car impounded this weekend or why are the electronics are in plain view, ah, were teams using traction control ?. You tell me.
    Like Todd Parrott said a few years back after dominating Daytona, quit crying and get the tool box out. A lot of people on this newsgroup would do well to take the same advice.

    J