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GPL - A New Believer

Ian

GPL - A New Believer

by Ian » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Holy ***this sim is awesome.  I can't believe I waited 2 years to buy
it!  So far I've only run Monza in training mode in order to get the
hang of the physics and I just love it.  My best lap to this point is
1min 33sec.  Is that an ok time for a newbie?  Would a FF wheel make a
huge difference in lap times (Im still using my trusty old T2).
Dolle Do

GPL - A New Believer

by Dolle Do » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00


>Holy ***this sim is awesome.  I can't believe I waited 2 years to buy
>it!  So far I've only run Monza in training mode in order to get the
>hang of the physics and I just love it.  My best lap to this point is
>1min 33sec.  Is that an ok time for a newbie?  Would a FF wheel make a
>huge difference in lap times (Im still using my trusty old T2).

1.33 is pretty good for a newbie.  Myself never having gotten away
from the newbie stage have a PB of 1.32.  FF seems to make you more
consistent ifnot downright faster.  Wish I could tell you more, but I
have not managed to get my FF wheel to work.

Welcome to the GPL fan club hehe.

Dolle Dolf

Ian

GPL - A New Believer

by Ian » Mon, 03 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the info.  Yeah, I have all of the helpers toggled off and I'll
try Spa next.  I've heard a lot of people say on RAS that two footing the
pedals is the way to go.  Is this true, or can one be a reasonably good
driver in GPL by using right foot only?


> >Holy ***this sim is awesome.

> You've got the lingo alrady, matey... :-)

> >I can't believe I waited 2 years to buy it! So far I've only run Monza
> >in training mode in order to get
> >the hang of the physics and I just love it.  My best lap to this
> >point is 1min 33sec.  Is that an ok time for a newbie?  Would a FF
> >wheel make a huge difference in lap times (Im still using my trusty
> >old T2).

> Firstly, I trust you've turned all the driver aids off and are using a
> manual gearbox (I guess so, if you're doing 1:33s). You really *don't*
> want to get used to the driver aids.

> 1:33 is pretty good - that's what you'd expect to get from a pretty
> clean lap without pushing that hard. Apart for anything else, that
> means you're not spinning all the time, which is more than most of us
> did in our early days!

> Monza is the track that everyone learns on, as it's fairly simple to
> remember, but don't exclude the other circuits. Spa is a wonderful
> track, long sweeping, very fast and exhilarating - go there next! Also,
> Watkins Glen is a good one.

> I found FF made quite a difference - less so at Monza as it's flat and
> predictable, but a lot at places like the Ring where there's a lot of
> twistiness and gradient. As to which one - most people like the
> Logitech Wingman, but I'm one of a minority who prefer the MS model
> (even though it's a frame rate gulper).

> When you've got a time at all the tracks, you can enter your times at
> GPLRank:

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> which has a handicap system based on the sample hotlaps included with
> the game (go to "View Replay" to see them). GPLRank is a new thing, but
> is already extremely popular, with the number of users not far off 1000
> now. And it's seriously ***ive!

> If you're lucky enough to have a solid connection, a lot of patience,
> and maybe an unmetered net phone bill, you might want to try online
> racing:

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> though I wouldn't recommend that until you're reasonable confident in
> the car, at least of not slewing off the track more than, say, once a
> lap... :-)

> And, of course, there is the vast array of add-ons and utilities for
> the game. Two excellent sites are here:

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> --
> David. (GPLRank handicap: +30.02)
> "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
> really."
> (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

David Butte

GPL - A New Believer

by David Butte » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


You've got the lingo alrady, matey... :-)

Firstly, I trust you've turned all the driver aids off and are using a
manual gearbox (I guess so, if you're doing 1:33s). You really *don't*
want to get used to the driver aids.

1:33 is pretty good - that's what you'd expect to get from a pretty
clean lap without pushing that hard. Apart for anything else, that
means you're not spinning all the time, which is more than most of us
did in our early days!

Monza is the track that everyone learns on, as it's fairly simple to
remember, but don't exclude the other circuits. Spa is a wonderful
track, long sweeping, very fast and exhilarating - go there next! Also,
Watkins Glen is a good one.

I found FF made quite a difference - less so at Monza as it's flat and
predictable, but a lot at places like the Ring where there's a lot of
twistiness and gradient. As to which one - most people like the
Logitech Wingman, but I'm one of a minority who prefer the MS model
(even though it's a frame rate gulper).

When you've got a time at all the tracks, you can enter your times at
GPLRank:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

which has a handicap system based on the sample hotlaps included with
the game (go to "View Replay" to see them). GPLRank is a new thing, but
is already extremely popular, with the number of users not far off 1000
now. And it's seriously ***ive!

If you're lucky enough to have a solid connection, a lot of patience,
and maybe an unmetered net phone bill, you might want to try online
racing:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

though I wouldn't recommend that until you're reasonable confident in
the car, at least of not slewing off the track more than, say, once a
lap... :-)

And, of course, there is the vast array of add-ons and utilities for
the game. Two excellent sites are here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: +30.02)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Andrew Merciec

GPL - A New Believer

by Andrew Merciec » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00

So what about a 1:34.35 at Monza with auto gears...which are slower and a
digital joystick? is that ok or crap?

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VFT CAMS Accredited F3 O3 U3




> >Holy ***this sim is awesome.

> You've got the lingo alrady, matey... :-)

> >I can't believe I waited 2 years to buy it! So far I've only run Monza
> >in training mode in order to get
> >the hang of the physics and I just love it.  My best lap to this
> >point is 1min 33sec.  Is that an ok time for a newbie?  Would a FF
> >wheel make a huge difference in lap times (Im still using my trusty
> >old T2).

> Firstly, I trust you've turned all the driver aids off and are using a
> manual gearbox (I guess so, if you're doing 1:33s). You really *don't*
> want to get used to the driver aids.

> 1:33 is pretty good - that's what you'd expect to get from a pretty
> clean lap without pushing that hard. Apart for anything else, that
> means you're not spinning all the time, which is more than most of us
> did in our early days!

> Monza is the track that everyone learns on, as it's fairly simple to
> remember, but don't exclude the other circuits. Spa is a wonderful
> track, long sweeping, very fast and exhilarating - go there next! Also,
> Watkins Glen is a good one.

> I found FF made quite a difference - less so at Monza as it's flat and
> predictable, but a lot at places like the Ring where there's a lot of
> twistiness and gradient. As to which one - most people like the
> Logitech Wingman, but I'm one of a minority who prefer the MS model
> (even though it's a frame rate gulper).

> When you've got a time at all the tracks, you can enter your times at
> GPLRank:

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> which has a handicap system based on the sample hotlaps included with
> the game (go to "View Replay" to see them). GPLRank is a new thing, but
> is already extremely popular, with the number of users not far off 1000
> now. And it's seriously ***ive!

> If you're lucky enough to have a solid connection, a lot of patience,
> and maybe an unmetered net phone bill, you might want to try online
> racing:

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> though I wouldn't recommend that until you're reasonable confident in
> the car, at least of not slewing off the track more than, say, once a
> lap... :-)

> And, of course, there is the vast array of add-ons and utilities for
> the game. Two excellent sites are here:

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> --
> David. (GPLRank handicap: +30.02)
> "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
> really."
> (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Jochen Heisterman

GPL - A New Believer

by Jochen Heisterman » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Okay, buy a wheel then and forget about auto gears.

1:34 in Monza is what you get after some training. I guess that you can
go to 1:31 with some further training. Its very difficult then to break the
1:30 barrier, I can do that only with Lotus and Eagle.

Jochen

Jan Verschuere

GPL - A New Believer

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00

There's a good few seconds for you to find yet while right footing it, but I
think it's safe to say left foot braking is undeniably faster in the long
run. So if you can get used to it early on in your "career", go for it.

Jan./GPLRank of +35sec and change, right foot braking (and not about to
change).
=---


> Thanks for the info.  Yeah, I have all of the helpers toggled off and I'll
> try Spa next.  I've heard a lot of people say on RAS that two footing the
> pedals is the way to go.  Is this true, or can one be a reasonably good
> driver in GPL by using right foot only?


> > <snip>

Andre Warrin

GPL - A New Believer

by Andre Warrin » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


>Thanks for the info.  Yeah, I have all of the helpers toggled off and I'll
>try Spa next.  I've heard a lot of people say on RAS that two footing the
>pedals is the way to go.  Is this true, or can one be a reasonably good
>driver in GPL by using right foot only?

Let me put it this way, Eldred drives using only his right foot, so
immediately start using both foots! (juuuust kidding Eldred :)

Andre



Macc

GPL - A New Believer

by Macc » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


>Holy ***this sim is awesome.  I can't believe I waited 2 years to buy
>it!  So far I've only run Monza in training mode in order to get the
>hang of the physics and I just love it.  My best lap to this point is
>1min 33sec.  Is that an ok time for a newbie?  Would a FF wheel make a

Shit yeah.  1 33 is a great time for a newbie.  It took me nearly 13
months to get near that!!!
___________________
Macca
"I'd kill myself for you...Id kill you for myself"
Pantera - This Love
m.seer

GPL - A New Believer

by m.seer » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I

Unless your name happens to be Alan Orton <G>

MS

Jan Verschuere

GPL - A New Believer

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00

He's not part of the human race. Them setups are undrivable, no matter how
many feet you use. ;-)

Jan.
=---

Ace

GPL - A New Believer

by Ace » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00

How many feet do you *have*?
--
-Ace-

<snip>
Eldre

GPL - A New Believer

by Eldre » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Warringa) writes:

>>Thanks for the info.  Yeah, I have all of the helpers toggled off and I'll
>>try Spa next.  I've heard a lot of people say on RAS that two footing the
>>pedals is the way to go.  Is this true, or can one be a reasonably good
>>driver in GPL by using right foot only?

>Let me put it this way, Eldred drives using only his right foot, so
>immediately start using both foots! (juuuust kidding Eldred :)

>Andre

<searches for a cat to whack Andre with...>
Incoming!

Eldred
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