rec.autos.simulators

Why would sim racer buy a console?
I understand that some good sims are being ported over,
but why would a person with a fast computer/video card be interested in a
console?

What about FF controllers/clutch pedals, etc?
I know that Act-Labs have console "engines".

I've never owned a console, but I guess that I equate Rally Champ 2000 with
the arcadish-style navigation.
When I checked out the TOCA2 demo, that same style really turned me off.

Yet, it seems that many people in this forum play driving games on the
console boxes.

With the X-box and a mutated WSC coming, it's forced me to ask...

I love driving games of all sorts - except the ones that pretend to be sims
but aren't.

eg.
Le Mans 24hr
Gran Turismo 1,2,3

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Damien Smith

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The only advantage I see is a stable, locked-down hardware spec which allows
the developers to achieve levels of graphical detail which would not seem
possible based on our PC-biased experience and the raw specs of the
consoles.  Code optimisation is really quite good on the consoles.

I'm a "notebook racer", and often throw aside the wheel for the comfort of
sitting on the couch for my racing fix, using a little analog controller.
The notebook has a S-Video output, so I can send it to the TV. Somehow the
images really come alive on a big TV in a way they don't on a PC screen.

But.... I quickly tire of "sims" which don't have a decent driving model, so
nothing on the console side has ever held my attention for more than a
casual spin now and then.

Stephen

Don Burnette

I can't see why it is necessary to upgrade the PC every f**** time a new
gametitle reach the market...I have spent about 2000 USD the last 3,5
years on upgrading my "racing" PC...

My "real" PC is still a PII-266 MHz with 64MB (1) and 6 GB HD (2) and
it's working perfectly 4-5 hours every day with internet and boring
financial/office - programs...

(1+2) It was born with 32MB and 3.2GB...Upgraded it around x-mas 2001
with 32MB extra and a "new" 6 GB HD though..:)...and it got new life for
a cost of 42 USD :)

I'm seriously concidering a PS2 or X-box in the future...the missing
link is the i-net connection for online racing though :(

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Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Thore Sorensen  -  DK-2700 Bronshoj

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Fester

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the ***, just as it narrows the
mind.  And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
*** boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
have done. And I am Caesar."   -- Julius Caesar

The X-box has a built in Ethernet adapter. If there are no TCP/IP
multiplayer racing games for it now, don't you think they will come soon?

Jone

http://www.xboxgw.com

Phillip

Phillip

I wouldn't buy one for myself, but it is kind of fun to play the latest
Grand Theft Auto on  the ps2 with my son.  There's just something a little
funny about picking up a *** to gain "energy points".  If you put this
game on the pc, some yokel would come up with a cool graphics package that
had a venereal disease hack included, and it just wouldn't be the same.

"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." . I have an xbox, and I think it rocks!
  Careful Phillip,  I think this may be some sort of Salem Witch
hunt....i.e...
  "We found a Console user may we BURN HIM???"
Lets just hope they don't shun you now.
:)
dave henrie

Kinda like playing The Sims with the *** Patch. :-P

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Fester

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the ***, just as it narrows the
mind.  And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
*** boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
have done. And I am Caesar."   -- Julius Caesar

DOug

A few of reasons:
There still isn't anything on the PC that compares to the Gran Turismo series
in variety and type of cars offered.  And the visuals in GT3 leave the PC
world behind.

The upgrade thing that has been mentioned.  I recently bought a bargain $19.99
copy of F12k1 for my PC and found it won't work with my "antiquated" (ie less
than 2 yr old) V3-2000.  Yes, I've gotten out of the upgrade syndrome.

It's fun for a quick play, travels easily, is accessible for *** and
novices alike.

The biggest negative to me is that it would require a whole new set of
peripherals.  I just use the std analog sticks.  They actually work quite well
(then again, I still use a joystick + pedals on the PC).

Don't knock it till you've tried it.  Not for everyone, but it does appeal to
plenty of PC simmers.

x Box/PS2 are for having fum on, but they are not for serious sim racing. We
play gotham racing at a Xmas party using a projector so the "screen" was
about 6 foot tall. That was fun but it was far from serious. My biggest
complaint with these games is having to unlock everything. Then if you don't
have a memory card to keep track of where you are at you can't get any
where.

MadDAWG