rec.autos.simulators

by **Mike Grand** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:06:25

How about you take your sorry ass and go somewhere else. This group is to
discuss auto simulations and that what is being discussed. Who the f*** do
you think you are.

--

> Why? Well, because in that way all you guys who shriek-- "CART!", "What
> Papyrus Should Do", "GPL" this and "GPL" that, "OT Fox Sports!" can go
> somewhere else, get your own elitist newsgroup, and all of us can rest in
> your happiness and our own.

> Alanb

Bernardo"

> > >How 'bout get your own newsgroup?

> > >Alanb

> > Why?

> > Eldred
> > --
> > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> > Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
> > GPLRank - under construction...

> > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
> you
> > with experience...
> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **Mike Grand** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:08:19

This group was born from Nascar. It has thrived on Nascar and Papy sims for
years. Isn't there somewhere you need to be.

--
Mike Grandy
www.precision-racing.com

> Why is it so "childish" and "naive"? Maybe I can understand the first,
but
> the naive thing is puzzling to me.

> Why can't Nascar and GPL have their own newsgroups? You guys just go
rehash
> the same things over and over and over and it gets rather tedious in here,
> almost makes a person want to shuck this group completely.

> With your own newsgroup you guys can all try to dominate yourself instead
of
> trying to elitist your way into this group and ruin in for most of us.

> Seems like a fair proposal to me and not at all, as you say, childish and
> naive.

> Alanb

> > > Why? Well, because in that way all you guys who shriek-- "CART!",
"What
> > > Papyrus Should Do", "GPL" this and "GPL" that, "OT Fox Sports!" can go
> > > somewhere else, get your own elitist newsgroup, and all of us can rest
> in
> > > your happiness and our own.

> > That's the most childish and naive thing I've read here in months.

> > 1) Go ahead and create your own rec.autos.simulators.non-papy newsgroup
> > (this won't ever happen, but good luck anyway).
> > 2) Filter the terms "GPL", "CART" or any term that actually refers to
the
> > charter of this newsgroup. I mean, what don't you understand in
> > rec.autos.simulators ??? We should start talking about Pez dispenser to
> > please you?
> > 3) Get the *** out of this newsgroup if you aren't pleased by this
place.
> > We aren't your slaves. Post information about those supposed other sims
> if
> > you want to talk about them. Nobody forces you to post about GPL.

> > It's the third time in less then a week that you troll here Alan. I
pity
> > you.

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- May the Downforce be with you...
> > -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Marc Collin** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:34:43

Hello...earth to Alan: there is not much else to talk about in a auto/racing
simulator newsgroup. Unless someone has simulators we don't know about.
Please enlighten us.

Marc.

> Why? Well, because in that way all you guys who shriek-- "CART!", "What
> Papyrus Should Do", "GPL" this and "GPL" that, "OT Fox Sports!" can go
> somewhere else, get your own elitist newsgroup, and all of us can rest in
> your happiness and our own.

> Alanb

Bernardo"

> > >How 'bout get your own newsgroup?

> > >Alanb

> > Why?

> > Eldred
> > --
> > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > GPLRank - under construction...

> > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
> you
> > with experience...
> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **Eldre** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 03:51:06

>The VRW is doing realtime qualifications where you line up on pit road and
>official send you out one car at a time. It works great and you get to see
>everyone qualify. It's done in a practice session.

And that would take HOW long for a full field? Not saying it wouldn't be
interesting, but it would add a bunch of time that might affect people's
connection, or schedule...

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPLRank - under construction...

Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **Mike Grand** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:10:40

That is true, it could affect connections. The time it takes can vary with
the length of the track but like I said, it is realtime. We will attemp to
qualify 40 on sunday night at Daytona and it should take about 2 hours,
maybe less. It is done during a practice session so you can reconnect
without problem and your time is maintained.

--
Mike Grandy
www.precision-racing.com

> >The VRW is doing realtime qualifications where you line up on pit road
and
> >official send you out one car at a time. It works great and you get to
see
> >everyone qualify. It's done in a practice session.

> And that would take HOW long for a full field? Not saying it wouldn't be
> interesting, but it would add a bunch of time that might affect people's
> connection, or schedule...

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> GPLRank - under construction...

> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **John DiFoo** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:11:25

> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROFLMAO
> that was funny.

Yeah, I'm well aware of that, so what else is new? :-p
For some reason track owners and NASCAR all get
their panties in a knot at the very mention of a track
editor, while the PGA and golf course owners seem
to have no problem with the various golf course
design programs (Links, Jack Nicklaus) out nowadays.
May not be a perfect analogy for whatever reasons, but
there you have it...

John DiFool

by **ymenar** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:23:47

> Why is it so "childish" and "naive"?

Because we discuss things that are PART of the original charter of this
newsgroup. Why are you surprised? You shouldn't be. Like I said, what the
heck do you want us to discuss about, if not racing simulations? Just
analyse the totality of the posts here, you'll see they are about every
***y sim, or PC-related situation possible. It's not Papy-centric at all.
You just forget those easily, and concentrate your whining on selective
posts.

Because there is NO NEED for that. But hey go create them, if you wan't
one. We don't want them, we are all perfectly happy here. Go try to form
them, it'll take you 5-8 months and you won't be able at the end, because
it's not needed.

We are perfectly happy with this newsgroup. If you aren't, then you are
perfectly able to just... leave. Nobody is holding you, except if you
troll. And you sure are trolling.

You aren't helping at all your cause.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Tim** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 06:51:31

Im curious how you get that information to the race
You recall how TEN worked, it was easy
Unless your just using that qualifying to just make the race?

Tim White
INTRAC Motorsports
www.birds-i-view.com/intrac

by **Tim** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 06:53:23

In a PC simulator everyone would raise the seat to see the most track imo

Tim White
INTRAC Motorsports
www.birds-i-view.com/intrac

> > I have to disagree with you about the view.

> > It really depends upon the driver as to their view. Dale Earnhardt sat
> very
> > low in his car and could not see his hood. Dale Jr does not see his
hood,
> > however some others may.

> > Everyone has a different seating position. Maybe make it a little
> > adjustable, now that would be nice

> > > > Since the rumors have already started flying about a March 02
release
> > > > (yeah right)... what would everybody like to see in N5?

> > > > Off the top of my head:

> > > > - improved vehicle damage model
> > > > - debris on track causes cut tires
> > > > - blown engines drop oil
> > > > - fire! fire! FIRE!
> > > > - dynamic weather during race
> > > > - larger textures for cars
> > > > - set the game in 1985, or 1955, or...

> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Gerald

> > > I agree with everything but settibng the game in the past. I want a
> > *modern*
> > > NASCAR sim, lol. Also, give us more options for tuning during a race,
> > > specifically the ability to change the brake bias from within the car
> like
> > > the real cup cars can now. Also, move the***pit view over and up
where
> > it
> > > should be. As it is now we have a lowered *tv in-car* instead of a
real
> > > driving position. I've been in cup cars and even driven one at Fast
> Track
> > > Driving school down in C***te, you CAN see the hood when sitting
in
> > one
> > > of these things.

by **David Ciemn** » Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:45:24

TRUCK SERIES!

DC

by **REDLINE42** » Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:47:22

All Right,...
DAYTONA SUPERBIKES ! naaaa...
DAYTONA GP BIKES from the mid 70's, naaaa...
HARLEY'S AND BSA'S from the Cal Rayborn*** Mann Era, Yea..
When there was no CHICANE !

LOL

--
1907 - Daytona Beach Florida

Glenn H. Curtiss rode a V8 powered motorcycle
to a 136.30 mph record in the measured mile.

The Chicago Daily News headline reads:
"Fastest Mile On Earth, Bullets Are The Only Rivals Of Glenn Curtiss"

by **bill jone** » Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:21:06

How about a screen that shows when others pitted last.

by **Brian Oste** » Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:57:10

I'll bite.

I would just be happy if they fixed the bugs in the current one. As
much as I play it, I would pay to have the exact same game with
smarter, better AI and all the stupid bugs taken out. But...

Yes, definetly. Just give the same damage model with a new setting
called ultra-realistic so that once you hit the wall relatively hard,
your done for.

Don't really care about this one. I have a hard enough time adjusting
to the weather before the race.

Leave it modern. Release this as an add-on for all those with good
ol' day syndrome. (I have a touch of it myself so I would probably
buy it)

- Better menu interfaces
- Keep car flipping in, but reduce it. I am sick of seeing a car flip
in every single wreck.

Brian Oster

by **Tim V** » Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:30:56

Spoken like a true programmer/project manager! :)

Tim.

by **Rob Adam** » Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:57:10

Guilty as charged (both counts)

> > Oops, I never thought of the impact on CofG. "Feature creep" here we
> > come!

> Spoken like a true programmer/project manager! :)

> Tim.

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