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WIDESPREAD INCOMPETENCE AT BELL ATLANTIC

Woodie

WIDESPREAD INCOMPETENCE AT BELL ATLANTIC

by Woodie » Mon, 19 Jun 2000 04:00:00



>Have we really just been so lucky all these years, and should be ever so
>grateful to the powers that be, or do the Europeans have even more of a
>right to *** for getting Ripped Off by Big Oil worse than we are?  :-)

Your use of the Clintonesque term "Big Oil" is telling.  The Europeans have a
right to *** about being ripped off by GOVERNMENT more than we are.  Our
current administration is more to blame for gas prices than anyone.
1) All domestic oil exploration has been banned since '92, the result being
that we are more dependant on imported oil than ever before.  Were we to use
the oil we have, OPEC would be finished.
2) A tax of 4.6 cents per gallon was added in '93 for budget deficit reduction.
 There is now a huge budget surplus, but we still pay.  To be fair, the
Republican controlled Congress considered and rejected repealing this, so
they're just as bad.
3) The EPA is conducting a test of the latest gas additive in the Midwest right
now.  The gas companies say the additive adds 50 cents to the price of gas.
The people of the Midwest are screaming for government to look into the soaring
price of gas in their region only.  Duh  The old additive cost 10 cents per
gallon, reduced gas mileage, did nothing to reduce emissions on cars with
feedback fuel injection (the vast majority), created noxious fumes affecting
some sensitive people, and has now been found to be poisoning water supplies.
Well done, EPA.

Adjusted for inflation, gas prices in most of the US are at the same level they
were in 1980, lower than they were in the mid '70s.  SUV sales and total gas
usage are higher than ever.  Despite the facts, you get mad at the oil
companies?  Let me guess, you also think that "Big Tobacco" is to blame for the
fact that I choose to smoke.  Also the gun manufacturers are at fault because
with 50 million gun owners, a very small number of repeat felons commit half a
million *** crimes a year.  I guess it is a matter of how you view it.

Don McCorkle
www.lp.org

Uncle Feste

WIDESPREAD INCOMPETENCE AT BELL ATLANTIC

by Uncle Feste » Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:00:00




> >Have we really just been so lucky all these years, and should be ever so
> >grateful to the powers that be, or do the Europeans have even more of a
> >right to *** for getting Ripped Off by Big Oil worse than we are?  :-)

> Your use of the Clintonesque term "Big Oil" is telling.

Sorry.  I'm neither democrat nor republican, conservative or liberal.  I
don't vote or participate in the census.  I work, pay taxes, raise &
support my family & sim race.

You're not kidding there!

Ho-hum.....

Yeah, well, just because *you* are willing to accept as truth the words
of those who are picking our pockets doesn't mean everybody does.  What
would you expect them to say??

And rightly so.  Fortunately, sales of gas have fallen enough where
state tax revenues are decreasing because of this.  That'll force their
hands to DO something, perhaps.  

And don't forget.  Thank you Big Oil, too.  The manufacturer ultimately
bears the burden of product R&D, no?  Of course, profits mean a hell of
a lot more than my kid's air & water!

Big deal.  They were too damned high *then* too!!

Oh, geeez..... Who the hell are the ones that announced at the end of
the last quarter that they, once again, had *RECORD PROFITS*?   WTF else
you gonna blame?!?!?!  And I'll GUARANTEE they'll announce similarly at
the end of this quarter.  Out of our wallets, into their bank
accounts... Guess you'd gladly surrender your $$ to them, instead of
using it in more productive ways, huh?

Well, I quit a little over 5 years ago after 20+ years of 3 1/2 packs a
day.  Let's just say I'm kinda familiar with their tactics of ***ing
people while their still to young & stupid to know any better, while
realizing that most of these ***s they create will never be able to
kick the habit and they'll be guaranteed a handsome income because of
it!  Hardly more than government-sanctioned legalized crack dealing.
Another thing that's legal, but *wrong*.  Fine them bastards out of
business I say.  In the meantime, a $5/pack tax wouldn't hurt.  Maybe it
could pay back for some of the medical bills the rest of us have to pick
up for your "choosing to smoke".

I think this horse has been beat to death here on RAS before....  ;-)

--
Chuck Kandler  
Humanity will not be happy until the day when the
last bureaucrat has been hanged with the guts of
the last capitalist.  Marcin Tustin

Registered Linux User #180746
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

David Kar

WIDESPREAD INCOMPETENCE AT BELL ATLANTIC

by David Kar » Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:00:00





> > >Have we really just been so lucky all these years, and should be ever
so
> > >grateful to the powers that be, or do the Europeans have even more of a
> > >right to *** for getting Ripped Off by Big Oil worse than we are?
:-)

> > Your use of the Clintonesque term "Big Oil" is telling.

Ha!  Get this!  Okay, from now on we should use "those little international
mom & pop corner oil companies," where you're treated jes' lak a neighbor!

--DK

Uncle Feste

WIDESPREAD INCOMPETENCE AT BELL ATLANTIC

by Uncle Feste » Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:00:00







> > > >Have we really just been so lucky all these years, and should be ever
> so
> > > >grateful to the powers that be, or do the Europeans have even more of a
> > > >right to *** for getting Ripped Off by Big Oil worse than we are?
> :-)

> > > Your use of the Clintonesque term "Big Oil" is telling.

> Ha!  Get this!  Okay, from now on we should use "those little international
> mom & pop corner oil companies," where you're treated jes' lak a neighbor!

> --DK

ROTFLMAO!!!!  Great comeback, David, keep 'em coming.

--
Chuck Kandler  
GPL F1 Handicap of +210.00 as of 6/15
GPL F3 Handicap of +438.42 as of 6/21
K&S Racing
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Registered Linux User #180746
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Ron Forema

WIDESPREAD INCOMPETENCE AT BELL ATLANTIC

by Ron Forema » Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:00:00

NO. It is taxes, ONLY.  NOTHING ELSE.  European countries have taxed oil
and gas prices outrageously for many years.  They have always paid as
much as four or five times as much as the U S, and it all goes to the
government's back pockets.  The oil companies, other than the OPEC
nations, are not making much more than they did in the 50's on a barrel
of oil.  ALL OIL PRICE INCREASES HAVE EITHER BEEN DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY
DUE TO THE ACTIONS OF GOVERNMENTS.  Nice to know all the really good
guys we have out there looking out for us, ain't it?



> >I've often wondered about that, so I guess now's the best time to ask! =

> >What is the reason for the big price jump once one gets to Europe?  Is =

> >it due to local taxes, national taxes, or are the oil companies raping =

> >you guys even worse than they are us?

> All of them I think... prices are getting ridiculous these days. I
> believe the taxes are higher than the value of the fuel itself...
> Thank Cassidy (thank God I mean) my boss pays my fuel...

> Andre

> >--
> >Chuck Kandler
> >(GPL Handicap of +249.31)
> >K&S Racing
> >http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195


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