rec.autos.simulators

Hi.

What are the general symptoms of *not* using a gamecard (like the
Thrustmaster ACM) with a wheel/pedal setup (like the T2)?

Just want to know so I can recognize it...

...Andrew

On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:44:56 -0500, Andrew Lavigne

This is due to the potentiometers TM uses. They are 200K, whereas
standard joystick pots are 100K (and regular gameports expect values
for 100K pots). The CH Automatic Gamecard 3, with a special switch for
Thrustmaster controls accepts pots up to 150K, and of course the ACM
works with 200K pots.

Hmmm... Is this a ***, I wonder? :)

BTW, all this testing was done with GP2.

Karim

Sincerely, Karim

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By your post, I assume the ACM is the ThrustMaster Card.  It sounds
like it is the best bet for the T2.  I bought the GP1 wheel with CH
peddals.  Got any info on the pots for CH?  (sounds like they are
standard).  I think I've see the box for the ACM, and it looks like
there is a goofy pot adjustment which plugs into the the card for
speed adjustment.  How do you like this, and have you had any problems
with it?

Lastly, must you, or can you adjust the ACM to pots which are 100k and
200k, as I have above, at the same time, or is the 100k issue settle
itself?

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: Hi.

: What are the general symptoms of *not* using a gamecard (like the
: Thrustmaster ACM) with a wheel/pedal setup (like the T2)?

: Just want to know so I can recognize it...

For me it was a "twitchy" car in ICR2, really had a hard time making
minor steering adjustments.  Especially noticable when trying to
maintain a straight line.  Also had a hard time keeping a constant speed
in the pit lane.  I always had to keep it a few mph below the limit, as
just a minor pressure change on the pedal would cause it jump a few mph.

Also the calibration number range.  Without the ACM my range in NASCAR2
was 14 - 1963.  With the ACM (after calibrating it for the speed of my
machine) 0 - 190.

For a full report see my responses under the subject "ACM, Gamecard 3,
others?"
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: By your post, I assume the ACM is the ThrustMaster Card.  It sounds
: like it is the best bet for the T2.  I bought the GP1 wheel with CH
: peddals.  Got any info on the pots for CH?  (sounds like they are
: standard).  I think I've see the box for the ACM, and it looks like
: there is a goofy pot adjustment which plugs into the the card for
: speed adjustment.  How do you like this, and have you had any problems
: with it?

: Lastly, must you, or can you adjust the ACM to pots which are 100k and
: 200k, as I have above, at the same time, or is the 100k issue settle
: itself?

The "goofy" external adjustment is why the ACM is better that the CH.
This will actually allow you to make calibration changes on the card
while you are in your game.  This can allow fine tuning for each game
you play.  Since no joystick routine seems to be the same from product
to product, this will allow you to adjust on the fly.  With the CH you
would need to exit the game, run the CH software, calibrate the card,
exit the CH software, run your game. . . .

I don't have an answer to your last question, but would hazard to guess
that you can at least adjust the card to achieve a "happy medium".

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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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