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NR2003 - FOV

Bruce Mill

NR2003 - FOV

by Bruce Mill » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 21:41:48

How adjustible is the FOV in NR2003?  I like to sit close to the
wheel. The view in Nascar Heat is my favorite perspective for Nascar,
can you adjust to get this view or close to it?
MadDAW

NR2003 - FOV

by MadDAW » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 22:20:55


I don't rmember what Heat looked like, but you can get pretty darn close if
you want to. IIRC it starts to cut off the bottom of the tach a little.

MadDAWG

Larr

NR2003 - FOV

by Larr » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 22:31:20

Control-F Narrows it.  Alt-F Widens it.

It's also in the options.

Larry


Larr

NR2003 - FOV

by Larr » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 22:31:47

Zoomed in, you can actually read the info on the guages!

Larry




> > How adjustible is the FOV in NR2003?  I like to sit close to the
> > wheel. The view in Nascar Heat is my favorite perspective for Nascar,
> > can you adjust to get this view or close to it?

> I don't rmember what Heat looked like, but you can get pretty darn close
if
> you want to. IIRC it starts to cut off the bottom of the tach a little.

> MadDAWG

MadDAW

NR2003 - FOV

by MadDAW » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:20:02


I wish they would have set the gages up like most race cars. They rotate the
gage so if the needle is straight up its good if its not then there is a
problem.

MadDAWG

Schoone

NR2003 - FOV

by Schoone » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:22:09

That is typically driver preference, not series specific.




> > Zoomed in, you can actually read the info on the guages!

> > Larry

> I wish they would have set the gages up like most race cars. They rotate
the
> gage so if the needle is straight up its good if its not then there is a
> problem.

> MadDAWG

Larr

NR2003 - FOV

by Larr » Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:05:27

I've thought this myself, and agree 100%.

There was a patch out some guy made with new guages, and it was great.  I
forget the name, and it probably won't work with NR2003 anyway.

Larry




> > Zoomed in, you can actually read the info on the guages!

> > Larry

> I wish they would have set the gages up like most race cars. They rotate
the
> gage so if the needle is straight up its good if its not then there is a
> problem.

> MadDAWG

Jonathan Van Ginneke

NR2003 - FOV

by Jonathan Van Ginneke » Sun, 09 Feb 2003 03:32:05

Has anyone changed the ini to see if you can get lower than the 65deg?  I
know it sucks to cut out so much of the screen, but I don't need to see
rollbars and the steering column when I am looking thru a tiny winshield
(gpl widescreen woulda been nice).

Jonathan

Larr

NR2003 - FOV

by Larr » Sun, 09 Feb 2003 04:11:10

I don't think I'd want to go much further.  At the lowest setting, you can't
see beside you hardly at all as it is.

Larry



Dave Henri

NR2003 - FOV

by Dave Henri » Sun, 09 Feb 2003 11:35:26



   Isn't there a setting to plaster your view smack dab on the rear bumper
of the car in front of you?  Geez...no matter how many varible settings
there are, it's never enough... Please don't take that as a slam against
you Johnathan,  I'm just venting...
dave henrie
(at least he's in the car..THAT counts for something)

Jonathan Van Ginneke

NR2003 - FOV

by Jonathan Van Ginneke » Sun, 09 Feb 2003 15:46:01

That's the idea I am in the car.  When I drive any car of mine I have a
windshield of prolly 24" to look out and see everything...not 4", it's a
matter of feeling.  I am lousy at sims cuz I just don't feel there unless I
get in some amazing zone, and usually by then I have a phone call or
something.

Don't get me wrong either...I love this sim, best one ever IMO (on the road
courses it's amazingly satisfying), it's just easier to see problems then
rave about the glaringly obvious things that were issues for some in the
past 2 installments.

Jonathan

Mark Daviso

NR2003 - FOV

by Mark Daviso » Mon, 10 Feb 2003 06:36:49



Go to widest view available, get a couple of rectangles of black cardboard
and tape'em to the top and bottom of your monitor - hey presto - GPL
Widescreen.

If people can phase out the black bars in GPL why can't they phase out the
extraneous***pit detail inN200x?  Different ways of achieving the same
thing - a wide world view on a 4:3 monitor.

Sorry - pet peeve all of this "I'm sitting too far back in the car" nonsense
that I hear.

We resume our normal programming...

Regards,

Mark

Jonathan Van Ginneke

NR2003 - FOV

by Jonathan Van Ginneke » Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:26:57

Great idea I'll do that with all the blockbuster dvd's I rent too.

Thanx

Jonathan

Bruce Mill

NR2003 - FOV

by Bruce Mill » Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:01:59

If you can adjust your seat in your street car, then why is it not
acceptable to change move the seat (the view) a bit forward in your
racing car?  Sorry,  if its a pet peeve...but a lot of us "do" feel
that we were sitting too back in the car.  In fact, the mere fact that
Papyrus has included the adjustable FOV shows that the company feels
that this is a legitimate concern. There is no question that it costs
$$ and time to change code, even if this is not a huge alteration.
Clearly, Papyrus has read these complaints and put its money and time
into this adding feature.  It is doubtful, therefore, that Papy
considers this particular complaint nonsense.

Mark Daviso

NR2003 - FOV

by Mark Daviso » Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:52:38

You move the seat in a real car to make sure you can reach the controls.
Putting the seat forward in real life doesn't give you blinkers to restrict
peripheral vision the closer you get ;-)

Didn't say it was nonsense, however - lots of people have complained about
it so it was included.  The FOV change option is totally valid, but you've
gotta compromise somewhere.  Just *imagine* that you've got those GPL black
bars and it all makes sense - suddely it doesn't look like you're sitting
too far back as all that extra visual info at the top and bottom is gone.
The view just looks more lifelike because it's wide - and that's how we see.

Going narrow, or "sitting close" is, IMO, chopping off valuable peripheral
info for the sake of losing unimportant top and bottom***pit graphics.

Anyway, this argument is pretty much moot as the FOV *is* adjustable in
N2K3.  It was more an idea for the person who wished for letterbox mode
(some home theatre enthusiasts *do* use blinds to cover black bars in
widescreen DVDs - makes the picture stand out more) and a vent as to why I
thought that the N2K2 "I don't use***pit mode because I don't like sitting
on the back seat" opinion was lame :-)

Regards,

Mark


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