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What the hell is going on here?

Chris Bloo

What the hell is going on here?

by Chris Bloo » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

GPL Minimum system: 166mhz
F1 2000 Minimum system: 233mhz
GPL recommended: 266mhz
F1 2000 recommended: 450mhz!!!

What extra realism that isn't in GPL does F1 2000 offer that the
recommended system to run it should need to be almost twice the
speed as one to run GPL?

Chris

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Alexander Mar

What the hell is going on here?

by Alexander Mar » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

and to continue that list:

GPL optimal system: 400mhz
F1 2000 optimal system: not invented yet

Mel Lanzer Co

What the hell is going on here?

by Mel Lanzer Co » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Ok... First off, I'm a huge GPL fan. The most realistic by far, blah, blah,
blah. However, I kinda like F1 2000 too. I seem to remember when GPL came out
that quite a few folks were whining about the system specs, complaining that it
was undrivable during a race with only a few cars. Suddenly, (two years later)
GPL will run on a minimal machine. Hmmm... Maybe its all... relative???

Warlock!


> GPL Minimum system: 166mhz
> F1 2000 Minimum system: 233mhz
> GPL recommended: 266mhz
> F1 2000 recommended: 450mhz!!!

> What extra realism that isn't in GPL does F1 2000 offer that the
> recommended system to run it should need to be almost twice the
> speed as one to run GPL?

> Chris

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Tony StewartNo

What the hell is going on here?

by Tony StewartNo » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

im sure f12000 has a lot of eye candy
;)
Chris Bloo

What the hell is going on here?

by Chris Bloo » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

My question is, what does F1 2000 offer for the extra Mhz
required that GPL doesn't.  I believe GP3 will run on a 266mhz
even in software mode and the recommended machine is a 400mhz.
This will include accurate weather rendering.

Chris



>Ok... First off, I'm a huge GPL fan. The most realistic by far,
blah, blah,
>blah. However, I kinda like F1 2000 too. I seem to remember
when GPL came out
>that quite a few folks were whining about the system specs,
complaining that it
>was undrivable during a race with only a few cars. Suddenly,
(two years later)
>GPL will run on a minimal machine. Hmmm... Maybe its all...
relative???

>Warlock!


>> GPL Minimum system: 166mhz
>> F1 2000 Minimum system: 233mhz
>> GPL recommended: 266mhz
>> F1 2000 recommended: 450mhz!!!

>> What extra realism that isn't in GPL does F1 2000 offer that
the
>> recommended system to run it should need to be almost twice
the
>> speed as one to run GPL?

>> Chris

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Tim Wheatle

What the hell is going on here?

by Tim Wheatle » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

gp3 is meant to have weather rendering?

uh oh, i see myself crashing into the back of lots of cars in the rain very
soon then :o)


Remco Moe

What the hell is going on here?

by Remco Moe » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00


>My question is, what does F1 2000 offer for the extra Mhz
>required that GPL doesn't.  I believe GP3 will run on a 266mhz
>even in software mode and the recommended machine is a 400mhz.
>This will include accurate weather rendering.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the minimum/recommended system
specs....

Remco

Kraku

What the hell is going on here?

by Kraku » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The realism of bad programming.
ymenar

What the hell is going on here?

by ymenar » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00


It's the chopper! ;-)

Seriously, it's just bad optimisation by ISI.  Simple as that.  The game
engine doesn't run as heavily as GPL Im absolutely sure, and the graphical
engine that the game engine support is probably higher than GPL, but not
enough to high to compare with the PC specs we need.  Remember that ISI only
did two titles in their history of racing simulators, while Papyrus has
dozens...

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David G Fishe

What the hell is going on here?

by David G Fishe » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I guess it has a better physics engine than GPL.

David G Fisher


David Ewin

What the hell is going on here?

by David Ewin » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00


> GPL Minimum system: 166mhz
> F1 2000 Minimum system: 233mhz
> GPL recommended: 266mhz
> F1 2000 recommended: 450mhz!!!

> What extra realism that isn't in GPL does F1 2000 offer that the
> recommended system to run it should need to be almost twice the
> speed as one to run GPL?

Primarily a poor use of a poor graphics API (DirectX).

Dave Ewing

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David G Fishe

What the hell is going on here?

by David G Fishe » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

450's didn't exist two years ago, so how  could they be recommended on the
box?

David G Fisher


Greg Cisk

What the hell is going on here?

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00


IMHO htis is quite simple to explain. GPL used Glide. F1 2000
uses (unfortunately) Direct3D. Direct3D is way more innefficent
than Glide. Especially on 3dfx cards :-)

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Don Scurlo

What the hell is going on here?

by Don Scurlo » Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I'm running gpl on a p3 550, TNT2, SBlive, and I can't run it with all
graphics options on during a race and have a usable frame rate. So
maybe what the F1 2000 recommendations are is REALISTIC.



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Jeff Vince

What the hell is going on here?

by Jeff Vince » Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:00:00



   Since GPL didn't come out until late Septemtber 1998, it wasn't two
years ago.  And there were 450s *then*.  :)

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark


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