I've just discovered GPL Engine Manager and the FD "class". I'd like to
start practising against the AI cars, but I'm wondering whether the engine
changes affect only theplayer car, or the AI cars as well.
Obviously, if the AI are not affected, racing an F2 engine against
F1-engined competitors will bea bit frustrating. Does anyone have any
information on this issue?
Thanks,
Chris
Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
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> Were you to only put the F2 engine in one of the makes of car, then
> only the AI drivers driving that make would have it and all the rest
> would kick your butt. <g> If you change all to F2 engines, then
> everyone drives them, too. With the greater control possible for the
> average GPL racer in the FDs, you get a great opportunity to really
> run with the AI competitively without having to achieve "alien" status
> on GPLRank.
> Regards,
> Brett C. Cammack
> Regards,
> Brett C. Cammack
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> Were you to only put the F2 engine in one of the makes of car, then
> only the AI drivers driving that make would have it and all the rest
> would kick your butt. <g> If you change all to F2 engines, then
> everyone drives them, too. With the greater control possible for the
> average GPL racer in the FDs, you get a great opportunity to really
> run with the AI competitively without having to achieve "alien" status
> on GPLRank.
> Regards,
> Brett C. Cammack
> Regards,
> Brett C. Cammack
> (remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately)
The F2 chassis has narrow tires, narrower track (I think) and a smaller
difference between front and rear track. Putting an F2 engine in an F1
chassis thus allows something equivalent to the old F2 GPL class, but with
much better handling - it's a delight to drive.
For more information, go to:
http://www.simracing.com/alison/gpl/gem.htm
Chris
> > >I've just discovered GPL Engine Manager and the FD "class". I'd like
> to
> > >start practising against the AI cars, but I'm wondering whether the
> engine
> > >changes affect only theplayer car, or the AI cars as well.
> > Were you to only put the F2 engine in one of the makes of car, then
> > only the AI drivers driving that make would have it and all the rest
> > would kick your butt. <g> If you change all to F2 engines, then
> > everyone drives them, too. With the greater control possible for the
> > average GPL racer in the FDs, you get a great opportunity to really
> > run with the AI competitively without having to achieve "alien" status
> > on GPLRank.
> > Regards,
> > Brett C. Cammack
> > Regards,
> > Brett C. Cammack
> > (remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately)
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Well, you could also do that with AI-Tweak...<g>
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True, but it's just not the same experience. I've used AI-Tweak for
ages to keep the AI drivers in sight... <g>
Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
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>>Well, you could also do that with AI-Tweak...<g>
>True, but it's just not the same experience. I've used AI-Tweak for
>ages to keep the AI drivers in sight... <g>
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> >>Well, you could also do that with AI-Tweak...<g>
> >True, but it's just not the same experience. I've used AI-Tweak for
> >ages to keep the AI drivers in sight... <g>
> I didn't use the program for the longest time. I'm trying to get good
enough
> to stay with the AI naturally. However, I tried to speed up some of the
slower
> AI drivers. There's typically a spread of 20+ seconds in qualifying on a
track
> like Zandvoort or Silverstone. That's TOO slow. But, it didn't seem to
make
> any difference. The slower AI *still* qual very slow, and also still seem
to
> be slow on the track. I'm not sure what I did wrong... :(
> Eldred
>> >>Well, you could also do that with AI-Tweak...<g>
>> >True, but it's just not the same experience. I've used AI-Tweak for
>> >ages to keep the AI drivers in sight... <g>
>> I didn't use the program for the longest time. I'm trying to get good
>enough
>> to stay with the AI naturally. However, I tried to speed up some of the
>slower
>> AI drivers. There's typically a spread of 20+ seconds in qualifying on a
>track
>> like Zandvoort or Silverstone. That's TOO slow. But, it didn't seem to
>make
>> any difference. The slower AI *still* qual very slow, and also still seem
>to
>> be slow on the track. I'm not sure what I did wrong... :(
>> Eldred
>Making the file player.sts "read only" perhaps? That's a trick I've seen
>recommended here to stop the AI from improving as you get faster.
>This file keeps an average of your fastest laps from a number of races
>and qualifyings. I have left this file alone and the ai.ini as well, and
>get a spread at Silverstone of about five sec. (Pb 1.30,02) Zandvoort
>about 3,5 sec. (Pb 1.26,88)
Eldred
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> Good call - I made the player.sts read only. Ok, that
I think AI Tweak just modifies the 'global hype scaling'
for each driver. So if you open up your driver.ini file
you should see the values for this field as you set
them using AI Tweak. Is this the case?
Regardless, AI Tweak attacks the problem on one
end, another solution (as you found out) is the
player.sts file. I have created an editor for this
file which can be downloaded from:
http://home.swbell.net/gmsmiley
There are also parameters in the gpl_ai.ini file that
can turn on/off all of the above or subtly tweak it.
These can show up in the track.ini files as well.
Somewhat confusing, isn't it?
I have also seen cases where the GPL AI scaling
engine gets stuck at a certain level for reasons
I have yet to fully understand. The only way
I solved this was to unfortuantely reinstall GPL.
Eventually, Kari and I will figure out the AI scaling
formulae down to the last variable and release a
master AI editor entitled GPal. ;-)
- George
and I will figure out the AI scaling
DUCK!!!!
dh
> > Good call - I made the player.sts read only. Ok, that
>> explains the slow AI, but why didn't they speed up after
>> I used AI-Tweak? That doesn't have ANYTHING to do
>> with player.sts...
>I think AI Tweak just modifies the 'global hype scaling'
>for each driver. So if you open up your driver.ini file
>you should see the values for this field as you set
>them using AI Tweak. Is this the case?
Whoops... Clue, write the installer program FIRST... :-)
Eldred
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>> - George
>DUCK!!!!
>dh
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Still trying to figure out that one, all I know is like most
of those values, bigger than 1.0 means faster, less than
1.0 means slower. ;-)
I don't think those are modified by any AI tweaker
program out there though.
Yes, a single slider that goes from 0% to 110% is
certainly easier.
D'oh, static linking - no installer required.
- George
