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Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

artie beame

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by artie beame » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 05:22:20

What happened to the war on terror? How come there have been no terror
alerts after the election ?
the.internet.u..

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by the.internet.u.. » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 05:34:42

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?  Maybe he has a timeshare and
that's the only date available.  Why do CEO's go on vacation when tech
support people in their company are still answering the phones?
Because they don't have to answer the phones and Bush doesn't need to
carry a rifle.  Seems straightforward to me.
Plowbo

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by Plowbo » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:06:22

Going on vacation?  ROFLMAO...

you dont think he's on duty 24-7?  you must be from countries that have
Kings...
*** off you nincompoop..

artie beamer enlightened us with:

Alan Bernard

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by Alan Bernard » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:34:06


George probably grabbed the LFS S2 Demo and headed to Texas.

Try staying to the right newsgroups and you might get some challenging
replies.

Alanb

Tiny Lun

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by Tiny Lun » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:52:28


Very simple answer: When  war is being waged and won by the most potent and
technologically advanced military in the world, the threat decreases. It may
have happened sooner, but there were 8 years in the 90's of failed
leadership, that left the intelligence community impotent, and the military
weak.

alex martin

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by alex martin » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:43:02

So does this potent military running on a 1 trillion dollar foreign debt
thinking about invading a nation other than a third world backwater?



>> What happened to the war on terror? How come there have been no terror
>> alerts after the election ?

> Very simple answer: When  war is being waged and won by the most potent
> and technologically advanced military in the world, the threat decreases.
> It may have happened sooner, but there were 8 years in the 90's of failed
> leadership, that left the intelligence community impotent, and the
> military weak.

Bill Bollinge

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by Bill Bollinge » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:01:54

1 trillion dollard foreign debt is penuts when your GDP is over 6 trillion
per year :)

Bill Bollinger


> So does this potent military running on a 1 trillion dollar foreign debt
> thinking about invading a nation other than a third world backwater?




>>> What happened to the war on terror? How come there have been no terror
>>> alerts after the election ?

>> Very simple answer: When  war is being waged and won by the most potent
>> and technologically advanced military in the world, the threat decreases.
>> It may have happened sooner, but there were 8 years in the 90's of failed
>> leadership, that left the intelligence community impotent, and the
>> military weak.

Alan Bernard

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by Alan Bernard » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:12:56




>> What happened to the war on terror? How come there have been no terror
>> alerts after the election ?

> Very simple answer: When  war is being waged and won by the most potent
> and technologically advanced military in the world, the threat decreases.
> It may have happened sooner, but there were 8 years in the 90's of failed
> leadership, that left the intelligence community impotent, and the
> military weak.

The threat, when it finally comes, is always from within.  Keep the economy
going the way it's going, keep gas prices as high as they are, and keep a
great majority of the American population dissatisfied, because of job loss
and lowering wages, and you have trouble.

It is pretty well established (at least in my mind) that the war in Iraq was
Bush's way to revenge his father.  I agree with the fact that oil flow has
to be secure in the region, but, according to the Bush Administration, that
was not America's reason for entering the war.

We can blow up all the weak countries in the world and become isolated, with
no friends abroad.  Then, when America starts to boil over, the 10%
satisfied (corporations and the like) feeling a bit uncomfortable with the
dissatisfied rest, then we have problems.

And they will be yours, not mine.

Alanb

alex martin

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by alex martin » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:03:56

Glad you think a trillion dollar debt is peanuts - but hey, you're gonna pay
for it - and the interest - for the rest of your life, not to mention your
kids too, so have fun and don't forget to thank the euroweenies for
providing your war funds - and while you're at it, enjoy your social
security - it's currently being used to bring democracy and freedom to an
ungrteful world. Whatcha gonna do, some people eh! Next thing you know, the
US'll go bankrupt just like all empires before it, and all to bring
democracy to the world - yes, white man's burdern, ain't it a ***!

>1 trillion dollard foreign debt is penuts when your GDP is over 6 trillion
>per year :)

> Bill Bollinger



>> So does this potent military running on a 1 trillion dollar foreign debt
>> thinking about invading a nation other than a third world backwater?




>>>> What happened to the war on terror? How come there have been no terror
>>>> alerts after the election ?

>>> Very simple answer: When  war is being waged and won by the most potent
>>> and technologically advanced military in the world, the threat
>>> decreases. It may have happened sooner, but there were 8 years in the
>>> 90's of failed leadership, that left the intelligence community
>>> impotent, and the military weak.

Bill Bollinge

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by Bill Bollinge » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:46:16

Well Alex, first off the maximum maturity date on all treasury bonds
currently being offered is 20 years.  A few years ago it was out to 30
years, therefore, to say we will pay for it forever is incorrect.  2nd, if
we have a GDP growth rate of 3-4% over the next 20 years, the rates we are
paying today is peanuts.  3rd, the euroweenies provide hardly any of what
you call "war funds" (Do you even know who buys most of the US Debt?).
Lastly, you may want to channel this energy in a more positive way and thank
god that you live in a country that allows you to spout this rubbish in a
public fashion.

Bill Bollinger


> Glad you think a trillion dollar debt is peanuts - but hey, you're gonna
> pay for it - and the interest - for the rest of your life, not to mention
> your kids too, so have fun and don't forget to thank the euroweenies for
> providing your war funds - and while you're at it, enjoy your social
> security - it's currently being used to bring democracy and freedom to an
> ungrteful world. Whatcha gonna do, some people eh! Next thing you know,
> the US'll go bankrupt just like all empires before it, and all to bring
> democracy to the world - yes, white man's burdern, ain't it a ***!


>>1 trillion dollard foreign debt is penuts when your GDP is over 6 trillion
>>per year :)

>> Bill Bollinger



>>> So does this potent military running on a 1 trillion dollar foreign debt
>>> thinking about invading a nation other than a third world backwater?




>>>>> What happened to the war on terror? How come there have been no terror
>>>>> alerts after the election ?

>>>> Very simple answer: When  war is being waged and won by the most potent
>>>> and technologically advanced military in the world, the threat
>>>> decreases. It may have happened sooner, but there were 8 years in the
>>>> 90's of failed leadership, that left the intelligence community
>>>> impotent, and the military weak.

alex martin

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by alex martin » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:43:20

Ah shucks Bill, thanks for the privilege - you RED Americans, sheesh, not
only do ya bring liberation world wide, not only are y'all the beacons of
shining conservatively compassionate freedom bringing uber-people, but ya
even give me the wonderful gift of free-rubbish-talking -

Why, in that primitive place where I was so unfortunate to have been born,
rubbish-talking was practically a birth-right! Oh yes, Bill, I have such
vivid memories of public floggings for non-rubbish-talkers - boy, had it not
been for freedom-giving compassionate men like yourself, mano-a-mano in the
good fight for freedom and Good itself, why we'd all still be babbling
rubbish to this very day, can you imagine? Yes, Bill,  had it not been for
my sojourn as a wetback in america, I'd be talking so much rubbish and
no-one would even tell me!

I feel positively ashamed, Bill, to be sharing the same planet as a man of
such learning, refinement and education as yourself - but Bill, - and I
pray, don't stone me for my rubbish-talking here but ... don't you think it
quite irrelevant whether the euroweenies buy your war-debts, or whether it
is China and other Asian central banks that buy them?

You see, Bill, one thing that you should consider, in all your glorious
self-righteous perfection, is the scenario which is unfolding for the US
economy as you sit there idly massaging your well-fed belly -

The scenario which sees China getting a bit weary of buying your debt, Bill,
because the dollar is deflating faster than the Hindenburg ... and how long,
Bill, do you think, in all your glittering pomposity, before the Chinese
start selling their US Bonds, Bill, with the net result, Bill, that the
dollar bill, Bill, starts free-falling like a broker on Wall Street on a
Thursday afternoon ...

See, Bill, what happens then is that your interest rates rise faster than
one of your conservative americans on an overdose of viagra (and don't
forget to call your doctor if your erection lasts longer than a week), which
means, Bill, that your 'theory' of US growth (at 3-4%), becomes about as
likely as the Bush doctrine is of bringing democracy and freedom to the
Middle East ... but of course, I am talking rubbish Bill, already you can
see demcracy taking root eh! Oh yes indeed ...

But tell me Bill, do you not think - along with all the other rubbish
talkers - that with the dollar plunging like your Beloved Leader on one of
his alcoholic binges (but, no, Bill, he choked on a pretzel because he was
sober!), the US will have no choice but to raise interest rates into the
teens?

And when that happens, Bill, don't you think your Euro and Chinese enemies
will begin to wonder how, exactly, you're going to buy back your war debt?

And then, Bill, then ... oh but let's not startle our good red americans
with such uncomfortable facts eh - why, one would statrt thinking about
argentina ...

See, Bill, others, unlike yourself (clearly well-versed in these matters),
like irrelevant rubbish-talking institutions such as the IMF and World Bank,
have already noted their alarm at the US foreign debt ... but they, like me,
must be talking rubbish, Bill, and only you and dubya really know the
'truth' of irrelevant matters such as  - how do you intend to pay for the
baby boomers' retirement, medical care, etc. ...

Yes, Bill, only you, Dubya, and Fox-ites know the 'real' truth, the rest of
us, sadly, are consigned to the rubbish heap of history ...

Indeed, Bill, one would - were it not you saying it - think it quite
astonishing that the fact that the US now owes more than 30% of its GDP in
foreign debt is just a little fly on the belly of the beast that is the US
economy.

Yes, Bill, were it from any authority but you, one would almost think it
lunacy that one can brush brush aside any concern that - were the US to
sustain a growth of 3.2% - achievable only, Bill, ONLY, if the rest of the
world's economies grew at a sustained 4% and that the dollar, Bill, remains
at levels last seen in August 2004 - your financial deficit with the world,
Bill, would be the insignificant sum of 50% of GDP ...

Yes Bill, were it not for you, Fox and Dubya saying so, why there'd be panic
on the (wall) street and people would be selling dollars faster than my
lamborghini in GTR ...

Yep, Bill, if anyone other than you had to make the claim that the US
economy would continue to rise at 3.2% while the weakening dollar was
smashing the economies of your major trading partners - well, I'd think it
madness. But Bill, you are the authority, and I bow to your expertise in
voodoo economics.

After all Bill, only by reducing the dollar will there be any chance of
getting this wonderfully irrelevant one trillion dollar debt under control -
even Bush said so, and he knows his stuff Bill, am I right? - Which is why
the dollar is deflating as we speak, and why it has dropped by an average of
17% against all its major trading partners ...

But see, Bill, there's a little problem with this cunning ploy ... while a
(projected) 23% some percent drop in the dollar over the next four years of
your beloved leader's reign as king of the world will see the foreign debt
reduce(reduce, Bill, not vanish, because of the rise in exports), there are
other problems to a deflating dollar ... namely, Bill, that the economic
chaos that this will cause to your major trading partners will eventually
loop back to the US, you see Bill, because they will no longer be able to
afford your exports ... and as for imports, Bill, well let's say your BMW
(you do own a foreign car, don't you Bill?) will become rather expensive ,
which means more economic woe for that troublesome non-american swine called
your trading partners - all of whom, Bill, retain US IOUs - and they might,
Bill, even be reduced to selling them back to you - which means, Bill,
another looping increase in interest rates, and a further deflation of the
dollar, and a further weakening of the global economies that MUST, Bill,
rise at 4% per annum in order for you, Bill, to pay your war-debt ...

The dollar's drop, Bill, caused VW a 68% decline in revenue ...

See, Bill, the deflation of the US dollar in order to pay for your
blood-lust (commonly known as your foreign debt), results in a slow-down in
Japan and European economies, Bill, which reduces the foreign capital that
comes into the US, Bill, thereby wrecking your sustained growth, Bill, of
the 3.2% neccessary to pay off the foreign debt Bill, which means, Bill,
that your happy-clappy understanding of economics is ... well, let's call it
exotic, shall we?

See, Bill, with the baby boomers retiring, the constant price of war, the
deflating dollar, the world's economy slowing down, the central banks
divesting themselves of the US dollar as reserve cuurency ... well, Bob,
were it not you saying so, I'd be thinking the US is up shit-creek, mate,
and your paddle - the Chinese - may just be thinking this is a good time to
annex Taiwan -

There is a reason why that other foreigner, Bill, Soros, that traiterous
foreigner, has been dumping dollars like an African baby with dysentry (yes,
Bill, the US alone decided not to relieve Africa's foreign debt, Bill,
because you care so much about the 'little' people of the world, don't you,
my little compassionate conservative friend?).

But Bill, what came above, all that rubbish, was the BEST case scenario -
that's right, Bill - because we haven't even touched on the worst case
scenario, have we - and believe it or not, it involves them "towel-heads" so
beloved by the white house and the freedom givers itching to bring democracy
or death (and hell they're the same thing as far as them foreigners are
concerned, am I right Bill?) to an expectant world -

See, Bill, a constant decline in the US dollars means a concomitant decline
in foreign investors in the US, and really, Bill, who, besides you, would
want to invest ten bucks and get five bucks back - certainly not rubbish
talkers like myself old man; why, germany and japan having their stuttering
economies ko'd by a strengthening euro and yen is positvely good news, isn't
it, Bill, and that will teach em germans not to invade the world alongside
dubya and his merry band of freedom giving acolytes ...

But as usual there is a little problem Bill - see, what happens if the
foreign investors in the US, Bill, decide to sell their US securities
because they have become a little annoyed at losing money (negative interest
rates which, Bill, in case you didn't get the brief, is what is happening
now) and no longer believe the dollar is sustainable even at its current
weak levels (lowest since 1992 Bill)? ...

Yes, Bill, what happens is that the dollar will get the bitch-slapping of
all bitch-slappings and before you can say argentina, you'll be loading up
your pick-up with greenbacks (as opposed them pesky wetbacks, eh, Bill, for
surely you must be one of them there minutemen, am I right?) to go to the
grocery store for your six-pack ...

But this, Bill, all of this is the good news, isn't it ... because what
dubya and fox and you aren't telling your red-american brethren, foaming at
the mouth at the prospect of more war (I mean liberation!) is the REALLY
good news ...

The imminent collapse, Bill, of the dollar as the reserve currency of choice
... and that, Bill, is the sole and only reason why the US economy can
function, Bill, as you may well even know (but I must be talking rubbish, am
I right Bill?) in total dysfuncionality to any and all market theories - and
why is that Bill?

Well, Bill, at the risk of talking more rubbish, it is beacuse the US is
such a poor exporter ... (now why, Bill, did the dollar devalue so much?) -
and as such, Bill, the only way it can sustain its lobsided economy is to
offer its trading partners (them there foreigners again Bill, doncha just
hate em!) a nice return on their (US) investments ...

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alex martin

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by alex martin » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:06:45

And while we're at it Bill, I happen to reside in a city that rejected your
lunatic right-wing fringe politics despite having been the ground zero in
your war on terror(ism); and while we're at it, Bill, I happen to have
missed 9-11 by eleven square blocks, and my wife by sheer coincidence - see,
Bill, many of my friends worked in one of the buildings neighbouring the
towers, Bill  - so if you don't mind, Bill, I think I'll politely ask you to
take your pompous self-righteous self-important superciliousness and shove
it where it fits best; or, in other words, why doncha sit down and give your
mouth a chance.

> Well Alex, first off the maximum maturity date on all treasury bonds
> currently being offered is 20 years.  A few years ago it was out to 30
> years, therefore, to say we will pay for it forever is incorrect.  2nd, if
> we have a GDP growth rate of 3-4% over the next 20 years, the rates we are
> paying today is peanuts.  3rd, the euroweenies provide hardly any of what
> you call "war funds" (Do you even know who buys most of the US Debt?).
> Lastly, you may want to channel this energy in a more positive way and
> thank god that you live in a country that allows you to spout this rubbish
> in a public fashion.

> Bill Bollinger



>> Glad you think a trillion dollar debt is peanuts - but hey, you're gonna
>> pay for it - and the interest - for the rest of your life, not to mention
>> your kids too, so have fun and don't forget to thank the euroweenies for
>> providing your war funds - and while you're at it, enjoy your social
>> security - it's currently being used to bring democracy and freedom to an
>> ungrteful world. Whatcha gonna do, some people eh! Next thing you know,
>> the US'll go bankrupt just like all empires before it, and all to bring
>> democracy to the world - yes, white man's burdern, ain't it a ***!


>>>1 trillion dollard foreign debt is penuts when your GDP is over 6
>>>trillion per year :)

>>> Bill Bollinger



>>>> So does this potent military running on a 1 trillion dollar foreign
>>>> debt thinking about invading a nation other than a third world
>>>> backwater?




>>>>>> What happened to the war on terror? How come there have been no
>>>>>> terror alerts after the election ?

>>>>> Very simple answer: When  war is being waged and won by the most
>>>>> potent and technologically advanced military in the world, the threat
>>>>> decreases. It may have happened sooner, but there were 8 years in the
>>>>> 90's of failed leadership, that left the intelligence community
>>>>> impotent, and the military weak.

catisfi

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by catisfi » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:20:09

Wow!  It's a shame because you might have had some interesting points
but your sensationalist devaluing method of putting them across made me
stop reading.

Oh, and before I forget,

*plonk*

artie beame

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by artie beame » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:27:22


> Wow!  It's a shame because you might have had some interesting points
> but your sensationalist devaluing method of putting them across made me
> stop reading.

> Oh, and before I forget,

> *plonk*

sticking your head in the sand, what a shocker
artie beame

Why does Bush go on vacation during war?

by artie beame » Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:28:13

but... but... BILL CLINTON didnt help africa... um, THEY HATE OUR
FREEDOM... um... um... YOU LIBERAL!!!!

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