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GPL: Online cheating detected !

Douglas Sharp

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Douglas Sharp » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

If it came from you or someone like you - I'd consider the source and move
on. My conscience is clean.


>Douglas, I wish you great sucess in all of your racing endeavors.  I still
>hope you never get accused of cheating.



>> Mike, Mike, Mike, You still don't get my point; "EVERY post I've ever
seen
>> from you has been negitive."  Those facts stand for themselves. As for
the
>> rest of your spew; I can take a little ribbing, but what you spew isn't
>> ribbing to me or anybody else.


>> >Douglas,

>> >Imagine I'm at Hooters, sipping a Bud, and watching a race , and see you
>> zip
>> >across the screen, in your racecar.  I can now look at everyone , and
>tell
>> >them I have chatted with you via the internet.  Boy they will probably
>want
>> >to know all kinds of things about you.  Please give me some of your past
>> >stats, and current plans, so I might pass the info along.  :o)

>> >You tend to look at ribbing, and see what you want to see.  I would
guess
>> >that you take life a little to serious.  You have not posted anything in
>> >this thread, but your off topic dribble.

>> >Like I said before, I wish you great success in your racing endeavors,
>and
>> >hope you never get accused of cheating.  If you can't handle that, then
>> >maybe I could tell you I hope you DO NOT qualify for your next race.
Now
>> >would  that make you feel better?  Of course not, just like you would
not
>> >want to be accused of cheating when you are not guilty.  I have however,
>> >made my LAST online GPL race.  .

>> >Mike


>> >> It sure looks sarcastic to me. And your attitude continues to prove my
>> >> point.



>> >> >What have any of YOUR posts got to do with the topic?  And by the
way,
>> >> >Douglas, it was not sarcasm.  I am impressed that a pro racer can
take
>> >time
>> >> >out of his busy schedule, to post in this newsgroup.  Hope you have a
>> >long,
>> >> >safe, and successful career, as a REAL racer.  I just hope no one
>> accuses
>> >> >you of cheating, WITHOUT any facts.  But maybe, it would not bother
>you,
>> >> >would it?



>> >> >> Mike,

>> >> >> Your sarcasm is lost on me. How many posts have you made today? You
>> >> >continue
>> >> >> to prove my point with evey one.



>> >> >> >Why don't you practice what you preach?  I DO NOT like being
>accused
>> >of
>> >> >> >cheating.  I guess if someone accused you of cheating it would be
>> OK??
>> >> I
>> >> >> >was not flaming you.  I said I was impressed that you were a REAL
>> >> driver.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> >was being sincere.  I honestly was wondering if you had moved up,
>to
>> a
>> >> >> >higher division?  Good luck.



>> >> >> >> Your every post only proves my point.



>> >> >> >> >Why don't you practice what you preach?
>> >> >> >> >As far as you driving in SCCA, I'm very impressed, really I am.
>> >And
>> >> >as
>> >> >> >far
>> >> >> >> >as you being a wannabe?  Have you moved up to WC yet, or are
you
>> >> still
>> >> >> >> >driving BUSCH?


>> >> >> >> >> Mike,

>> >> >> >> >> You are truely a total ***!

>> >> >> >> >> EVERY post I've ever seen from you has been negitive. You're
>> >always
>> >> >> >> >flamming
>> >> >> >> >> someone for something.

>> >> >> >> >> And talk about getting your facts before spewing.... You did
>it
>> >to
>> >> >me
>> >> >> >> last
>> >> >> >> >> week about NL and the AI line at Riverside, remember?  "He
>comes
>> >> >> across
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> >> some kind of expert, but he's probably just some
>wannabe.....".
>> >> > BTW -
>> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >> really did drive there with the SCCA.

>> >> >> >> >> Why don't you grow up, learn some manners and contiribute
>> instead
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> being
>> >> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >> >> jerk all the time?

Mike Adam

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Mike Adam » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00


<snip>

I startrted having the erratic problems when I went to a cable modem last
month.  I have decided after all that was said and done, I will no longer
race online, because anything I do out of the unusual, may be contrued as
cheating.  I have other obligations as well.  I was originally trying to
make a point that "false accusatins", could have people pointing the finger,
when it should not be pointed.  Andre may need to do a little soul
searching, after this, and it might just make him think before he fills in a
subject line.  Like you said they "suspected" cheating, but the original
subject stated, cheating "detected".  Andre and the others detected nothing,
they just assumed.   Don't you think there is a difference?
  Good day,
  Mike

glen

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by glen » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00


I wasn't there so I don't know what happened.

But, are you capable of running consistent 59 second laps at the Glen?  Or
where the lap times different on your end than on the server?  I can see that
happening for one lap, but consistently, lap after lap??

Tell us what happened.

glen

Mike Adam

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Mike Adam » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Now Douglas, I try and be nice, and what do I get?  Sarcasm, from the
preacher, no less!   :o)

> If it came from you or someone like you - I'd consider the source and move
> on. My conscience is clean.


> >Douglas, I wish you great sucess in all of your racing endeavors.  I
still
> >hope you never get accused of cheating.



> >> Mike, Mike, Mike, You still don't get my point; "EVERY post I've ever
> seen
> >> from you has been negitive."  Those facts stand for themselves. As for
> the
> >> rest of your spew; I can take a little ribbing, but what you spew isn't
> >> ribbing to me or anybody else.




- Show quoted text -

> >> >Douglas,

> >> >Imagine I'm at Hooters, sipping a Bud, and watching a race , and see
you
> >> zip
> >> >across the screen, in your racecar.  I can now look at everyone , and
> >tell
> >> >them I have chatted with you via the internet.  Boy they will probably
> >want
> >> >to know all kinds of things about you.  Please give me some of your
past
> >> >stats, and current plans, so I might pass the info along.  :o)

> >> >You tend to look at ribbing, and see what you want to see.  I would
> guess
> >> >that you take life a little to serious.  You have not posted anything
in
> >> >this thread, but your off topic dribble.

> >> >Like I said before, I wish you great success in your racing endeavors,
> >and
> >> >hope you never get accused of cheating.  If you can't handle that,
then
> >> >maybe I could tell you I hope you DO NOT qualify for your next race.
> Now
> >> >would  that make you feel better?  Of course not, just like you would
> not
> >> >want to be accused of cheating when you are not guilty.  I have
however,
> >> >made my LAST online GPL race.  .

> >> >Mike


> >> >> It sure looks sarcastic to me. And your attitude continues to prove
my
> >> >> point.



> >> >> >What have any of YOUR posts got to do with the topic?  And by the
> way,
> >> >> >Douglas, it was not sarcasm.  I am impressed that a pro racer can
> take
> >> >time
> >> >> >out of his busy schedule, to post in this newsgroup.  Hope you have
a
> >> >long,
> >> >> >safe, and successful career, as a REAL racer.  I just hope no one
> >> accuses
> >> >> >you of cheating, WITHOUT any facts.  But maybe, it would not bother
> >you,
> >> >> >would it?



> >> >> >> Mike,

> >> >> >> Your sarcasm is lost on me. How many posts have you made today?
You
> >> >> >continue
> >> >> >> to prove my point with evey one.



> >> >> >> >Why don't you practice what you preach?  I DO NOT like being
> >accused
> >> >of
> >> >> >> >cheating.  I guess if someone accused you of cheating it would
be
> >> OK??
> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >was not flaming you.  I said I was impressed that you were a
REAL
> >> >> driver.
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >was being sincere.  I honestly was wondering if you had moved
up,
> >to
> >> a
> >> >> >> >higher division?  Good luck.



> >> >> >> >> Your every post only proves my point.



> >> >> >> >> >Why don't you practice what you preach?
> >> >> >> >> >As far as you driving in SCCA, I'm very impressed, really I
am.
> >> >And
> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> >far
> >> >> >> >> >as you being a wannabe?  Have you moved up to WC yet, or are
> you
> >> >> still
> >> >> >> >> >driving BUSCH?


> >> >> >> >> >> Mike,

> >> >> >> >> >> You are truely a total ***!

> >> >> >> >> >> EVERY post I've ever seen from you has been negitive.
You're
> >> >always
> >> >> >> >> >flamming
> >> >> >> >> >> someone for something.

> >> >> >> >> >> And talk about getting your facts before spewing.... You
did
> >it
> >> >to
> >> >> >me
> >> >> >> >> last
> >> >> >> >> >> week about NL and the AI line at Riverside, remember?  "He
> >comes
> >> >> >> across
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> >> some kind of expert, but he's probably just some
> >wannabe.....".
> >> >> > BTW -
> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >> really did drive there with the SCCA.

> >> >> >> >> >> Why don't you grow up, learn some manners and contiribute
> >> instead
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> being
> >> >> >> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> >> jerk all the time?

Steve Ferguso

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Steve Ferguso » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00


: subject line.  Like you said they "suspected" cheating, but the original
: subject stated, cheating "detected".  Andre and the others detected nothing,
: they just assumed.   Don't you think there is a difference?

Pedant.

S.

Mike Adam

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Mike Adam » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

No, stupid, the IS a difference between, suspected, and detected.  Do not
bother replying, I have nothing more to say on the matter.


> : subject line.  Like you said they "suspected" cheating, but the original
> : subject stated, cheating "detected".  Andre and the others detected
nothing,
> : they just assumed.   Don't you think there is a difference?

> Pedant.

> S.

Steve Ferguso

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Steve Ferguso » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

: No, stupid, the IS a difference between, suspected, and detected.  Do not
: bother replying, I have nothing more to say on the matter.

You're being pedantic because you are hung up on the four word subject
line, instead of the very objective message that it headed.
It's a shame you let these little details get to you. Do you iron your
underpants?

Stephen




:> : subject line.  Like you said they "suspected" cheating, but the original
:> : subject stated, cheating "detected".  Andre and the others detected
: nothing,
:> : they just assumed.   Don't you think there is a difference?
:>
:> Pedant.
:>
:> S.
:>
:>

glen

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by glen » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00



It's too bad some people have never heard of email.  They insist on having
their private pissing matches here in public.

The original question was: "If someone is running consistent 59 second laps and
they appear to be cutting corners at full speed, how are they doing this?  Or
why is this happening?".

Nobody has even attempted to answer the question.  Just alot of "Did not!",
"Did so!", "Did not!", "Did so!".  etc.

Mark Seer

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Mark Seer » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Other NF Asgeir <G>

You don't get points in here, you get a pint ............... of the victim's
***.

Mark

> Point! And a good one, too!

> ---A---


> > Hmm, if it was you, you're surely able to explain what "***" means,
> > aren't you?
> > Please tell me!!!

> > Crash

> > Mike Adams schrieb:

> > > It WAS me, you jerk, and NO, I DO NOT CHEAT!

Mark Seer

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Mark Seer » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Hey guys, thanks for making this an extremely entertaining monday night.
BTW, which server was it again? I'm still trying to get under 1:05 :-)

MS


> >that Remco was right, >

> I am always right! (and SO modest <g>)

> BTW, to my knowledge isn't it common for that server that it
> put "***" in chatlines, that is done by the driver himself. After
> reading his posts on this newsgroup, I've to assume Mr Adams was
> clarifying that he isn't a cheat, but a ***....

> Remco

Mark Seer

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Mark Seer » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Urgh.
It's a Russian armpit <G>

MS



> > "A *** is a hairy part of a woman ;-)"

> So it's a compliment after all!
> To be called something many of us love so much :P
> (a scalp?)

> ---
> Antti Markus Peteri

>        15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away

>                                  - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken

larryh..

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by larryh.. » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

  I have however, made my LAST online GPL race.  .

                    Mike

Finally some progress in this thread!

Larry

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Douglas Sharp

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Douglas Sharp » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

There you go proving my original point again!

Let's see.... playing nice...OK I'll start.

Mike,

I appoligize for calling you an *** and a jerk.


>Now Douglas, I try and be nice, and what do I get?  Sarcasm, from the
>preacher, no less!   :o)


>> If it came from you or someone like you - I'd consider the source and
move
>> on. My conscience is clean.


>> >Douglas, I wish you great sucess in all of your racing endeavors.  I
>still
>> >hope you never get accused of cheating.



>> >> Mike, Mike, Mike, You still don't get my point; "EVERY post I've ever
>> seen
>> >> from you has been negitive."  Those facts stand for themselves. As for
>> the
>> >> rest of your spew; I can take a little ribbing, but what you spew
isn't
>> >> ribbing to me or anybody else.



>> >> >Douglas,

>> >> >Imagine I'm at Hooters, sipping a Bud, and watching a race , and see
>you
>> >> zip
>> >> >across the screen, in your racecar.  I can now look at everyone , and
>> >tell
>> >> >them I have chatted with you via the internet.  Boy they will
probably
>> >want
>> >> >to know all kinds of things about you.  Please give me some of your
>past
>> >> >stats, and current plans, so I might pass the info along.  :o)

>> >> >You tend to look at ribbing, and see what you want to see.  I would
>> guess
>> >> >that you take life a little to serious.  You have not posted anything
>in
>> >> >this thread, but your off topic dribble.

>> >> >Like I said before, I wish you great success in your racing
endeavors,
>> >and
>> >> >hope you never get accused of cheating.  If you can't handle that,
>then
>> >> >maybe I could tell you I hope you DO NOT qualify for your next race.
>> Now
>> >> >would  that make you feel better?  Of course not, just like you would
>> not
>> >> >want to be accused of cheating when you are not guilty.  I have
>however,
>> >> >made my LAST online GPL race.  .

>> >> >Mike


>> >> >> It sure looks sarcastic to me. And your attitude continues to prove
>my
>> >> >> point.



>> >> >> >What have any of YOUR posts got to do with the topic?  And by the
>> way,
>> >> >> >Douglas, it was not sarcasm.  I am impressed that a pro racer can
>> take
>> >> >time
>> >> >> >out of his busy schedule, to post in this newsgroup.  Hope you
have
>a
>> >> >long,
>> >> >> >safe, and successful career, as a REAL racer.  I just hope no one
>> >> accuses
>> >> >> >you of cheating, WITHOUT any facts.  But maybe, it would not
bother
>> >you,
>> >> >> >would it?



>> >> >> >> Mike,

>> >> >> >> Your sarcasm is lost on me. How many posts have you made today?
>You
>> >> >> >continue
>> >> >> >> to prove my point with evey one.



>> >> >> >> >Why don't you practice what you preach?  I DO NOT like being
>> >accused
>> >> >of
>> >> >> >> >cheating.  I guess if someone accused you of cheating it would
>be
>> >> OK??
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >was not flaming you.  I said I was impressed that you were a
>REAL
>> >> >> driver.
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >was being sincere.  I honestly was wondering if you had moved
>up,
>> >to
>> >> a
>> >> >> >> >higher division?  Good luck.



>> >> >> >> >> Your every post only proves my point.



>> >> >> >> >> >Why don't you practice what you preach?
>> >> >> >> >> >As far as you driving in SCCA, I'm very impressed, really I
>am.
>> >> >And
>> >> >> >as
>> >> >> >> >far
>> >> >> >> >> >as you being a wannabe?  Have you moved up to WC yet, or are
>> you
>> >> >> still
>> >> >> >> >> >driving BUSCH?

message

>> >> >> >> >> >> Mike,

>> >> >> >> >> >> You are truely a total ***!

>> >> >> >> >> >> EVERY post I've ever seen from you has been negitive.
>You're
>> >> >always
>> >> >> >> >> >flamming
>> >> >> >> >> >> someone for something.

>> >> >> >> >> >> And talk about getting your facts before spewing.... You
>did
>> >it
>> >> >to
>> >> >> >me
>> >> >> >> >> last
>> >> >> >> >> >> week about NL and the AI line at Riverside, remember?  "He
>> >comes
>> >> >> >> across
>> >> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> >> >> some kind of expert, but he's probably just some
>> >wannabe.....".
>> >> >> > BTW -
>> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >> >> really did drive there with the SCCA.

>> >> >> >> >> >> Why don't you grow up, learn some manners and contiribute
>> >> instead
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> being
>> >> >> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >> >> >> jerk all the time?

Peter Ive

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Peter Ive » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Yeah,  I was in that race, Andre.  From in car, as I accelerated down
back straight after the loop,  I saw his Eagle appear in my mirrors
probably some 10 car lengths back.  Within a couple of seconds his car
then blinked out from my mirrors and then reappeared directly in front
of me on my racing line about 1 car length ahead.

I had been trying to read the chat messages whilst racing and had
noticed that some guys thought he must be cheating in some way so when
this happened it just confirmed it for me and I thought "Right, this
guys for it!".  So, as he started braking just after the speed trap, I
just rear-ended him.  Couldn't help myself.<g>
--
Peter Ives
(AKA Ivington)

Mike Adam

GPL: Online cheating detected !

by Mike Adam » Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Why Douglas, thank you, for being so nice.  I accept.  I would never cuss at
anyone, though.  It's not my nature, as you can tell from previous posts.  I
usually leave that up to the children, here.  <G>

Douglas Sharpe <dougsha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:807diq$npv$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net...
> There you go proving my original point again!

> Let's see.... playing nice...OK I'll start.

> Mike,

> I appoligize for calling you an asshole and a jerk.

> Mike Adams > wrote in message <8079u2$qo...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>...
> >Now Douglas, I try and be nice, and what do I get?  Sarcasm, from the
> >preacher, no less!   :o)
> >Douglas Sharpe <dougsha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >news:8078tn$on0$1@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net...
> >> If it came from you or someone like you - I'd consider the source and
> move
> >> on. My conscience is clean.

> >> Mike Adams > wrote in message

<8077tk$pr...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>...

- Show quoted text -

> >> >Douglas, I wish you great sucess in all of your racing endeavors.  I
> >still
> >> >hope you never get accused of cheating.

> >> >Douglas Sharpe <dougsha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:8077ft$j0r$1@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >> Mike, Mike, Mike, You still don't get my point; "EVERY post I've
ever
> >> seen
> >> >> from you has been negitive."  Those facts stand for themselves. As
for
> >> the
> >> >> rest of your spew; I can take a little ribbing, but what you spew
> isn't
> >> >> ribbing to me or anybody else.

> >> >> Mike Adams > wrote in message
> ><8075no$ug...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>...
> >> >> >Douglas,

> >> >> >Imagine I'm at Hooters, sipping a Bud, and watching a race , and
see
> >you
> >> >> zip
> >> >> >across the screen, in your racecar.  I can now look at everyone ,
and
> >> >tell
> >> >> >them I have chatted with you via the internet.  Boy they will
> probably
> >> >want
> >> >> >to know all kinds of things about you.  Please give me some of your
> >past
> >> >> >stats, and current plans, so I might pass the info along.  :o)

> >> >> >You tend to look at ribbing, and see what you want to see.  I would
> >> guess
> >> >> >that you take life a little to serious.  You have not posted
anything
> >in
> >> >> >this thread, but your off topic dribble.

> >> >> >Like I said before, I wish you great success in your racing
> endeavors,
> >> >and
> >> >> >hope you never get accused of cheating.  If you can't handle that,
> >then
> >> >> >maybe I could tell you I hope you DO NOT qualify for your next
race.
> >> Now
> >> >> >would  that make you feel better?  Of course not, just like you
would
> >> not
> >> >> >want to be accused of cheating when you are not guilty.  I have
> >however,
> >> >> >made my LAST online GPL race.  .

> >> >> >Mike
> >> >> >Douglas Sharpe <dougsha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:80751m$alq$1@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >> >> It sure looks sarcastic to me. And your attitude continues to
prove
> >my
> >> >> >> point.

> >> >> >> Mike Adams > wrote in message
> >> ><80701b$ca...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>...
> >> >> >> >What have any of YOUR posts got to do with the topic?  And by
the
> >> way,
> >> >> >> >Douglas, it was not sarcasm.  I am impressed that a pro racer
can
> >> take
> >> >> >time
> >> >> >> >out of his busy schedule, to post in this newsgroup.  Hope you
> have
> >a
> >> >> >long,
> >> >> >> >safe, and successful career, as a REAL racer.  I just hope no
one
> >> >> accuses
> >> >> >> >you of cheating, WITHOUT any facts.  But maybe, it would not
> bother
> >> >you,
> >> >> >> >would it?

> >> >> >> >Douglas Sharpe <dougsha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:806ve1$chh$1@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >> >> >> Mike,

> >> >> >> >> Your sarcasm is lost on me. How many posts have you made
today?
> >You
> >> >> >> >continue
> >> >> >> >> to prove my point with evey one.

> >> >> >> >> Mike Adams > wrote in message
> >> >> ><806tii$vh...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>...
> >> >> >> >> >Why don't you practice what you preach?  I DO NOT like being
> >> >accused
> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> >> >cheating.  I guess if someone accused you of cheating it
would
> >be
> >> >> OK??
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> >was not flaming you.  I said I was impressed that you were a
> >REAL
> >> >> >> driver.
> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> >was being sincere.  I honestly was wondering if you had moved
> >up,
> >> >to
> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >higher division?  Good luck.

> >> >> >> >> >Douglas Sharpe <dougsha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >news:806spr$mkm$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> Your every post only proves my point.

> >> >> >> >> >> Mike Adams > wrote in message
> >> >> >> ><806sci$kp...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>...
> >> >> >> >> >> >Why don't you practice what you preach?
> >> >> >> >> >> >As far as you driving in SCCA, I'm very impressed, really
I
> >am.
> >> >> >And
> >> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> >> >far
> >> >> >> >> >> >as you being a wannabe?  Have you moved up to WC yet, or
are
> >> you
> >> >> >> still
> >> >> >> >> >> >driving BUSCH?
> >> >> >> >> >> >Douglas Sharpe <dougsha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >news:806rav$hmv$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike,

> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are truely a total asshole!

> >> >> >> >> >> >> EVERY post I've ever seen from you has been negitive.
> >You're
> >> >> >always
> >> >> >> >> >> >flamming
> >> >> >> >> >> >> someone for something.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> And talk about getting your facts before spewing.... You
> >did
> >> >it
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >me
> >> >> >> >> >> last
> >> >> >> >> >> >> week about NL and the AI line at Riverside, remember?
"He
> >> >comes
> >> >> >> >> across
> >> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> >> >> some kind of expert, but he's probably just some
> >> >wannabe.....".
> >> >> >> > BTW -
> >> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> really did drive there with the SCCA.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why don't you grow up, learn some manners and
contiribute
> >> >> instead
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> >> being
> >> >> >> >> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> jerk all the time?


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