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N4: Will Papy and Sierra respect us in the morning?

ymenar

N4: Will Papy and Sierra respect us in the morning?

by ymenar » Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:42:09


>    No, but then we could begin phase two of the official internet whiners
guide...
> after complaining about a patch, we must be ready to move on and start
complaining
> about the patch being late.  The sooner Papyrus announces the patch, the
sooner we
> can move on and begin our carping all over again.

Hehehehe ;-)

"It's quite obvious"

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Tom Olive

N4: Will Papy and Sierra respect us in the morning?

by Tom Olive » Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:33:55

He's got a point Frank. It's very frustrating when they never say anything.
Now I totally understand why they don't communicate in these forums as even
I've given up on simracing.org (talk about a mess), but they could post
something somewhere. The truth is he is right. We don't know KNOW for sure
there will ever be a patch since Papy hasn't said there would be. Now I do
believe there will be one as I've stated, but I don't know that for sure and
quite honestly neither do you.

Tom


PHYDEAUX

N4: Will Papy and Sierra respect us in the morning?

by PHYDEAUX » Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:22:03


>Date: 03/28/2001 5:41 PM Eastern Standard Time

>.  What's the point of officially saying there will be a patch?  It
>> would make your life so much more enjoyable if somebody from Papyrus told
>> you "yes, we are creating a patch presently"

>   No, but then we could begin phase two of the official internet whiners
>guide...
>after complaining about a patch, we must be ready to move on and start
>complaining
>about the patch being late.  The sooner Papyrus announces the patch, the
>sooner we
>can move on and begin our carping all over again.
>dave henrie

OK if we're going to get into a discussion about "CARP" I suggest we move it on
over to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc  <g>

(Don't gimme NO***in E-mail)

ymenar

N4: Will Papy and Sierra respect us in the morning?

by ymenar » Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:25:15


> He's got a point Frank. It's very frustrating when they never say

anything.

I don't disagree with that. It's just that shouting from the roofs won't
change anything.  Papyrus has always done that, it's like the fifth time we
have about the same discussion on r.a.s. over the years.  It won't change
anything.

Hehehe ;-)    It's not a mess, it's just us!

don't know KNOW for sure

There will be a patch.  Trust me.

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
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Jon Dento

N4: Will Papy and Sierra respect us in the morning?

by Jon Dento » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:34:16

In the software industry there is a "practice" that is sometimes employed,
it involves releasing the final beta of your software to the customer then
sit tight and take the complaints for the first three months of release.

When you have gathered enough knowledge about the problems that exist with
the software from irate customers reporting problems you fix them, and
release a patch, and with that you release what should have been the
original product.

The problems being that PC's represent such a variety of differing system
configurations worldwide that testing them all is nigh on impossible.

Sadly, the consumer can do very little in this situation but wait for the
software house to perform their work, the customers of Hasbro suffered when
they realised that no patch was coming.  But I don't think there is anything
to suggest that Papyrus's future at risk here.

At least I hope not.  I hope they are working on a patch but if they are
they need to give it enough time to make sure that someone finds EVERY
problem there is with the software so that they don't have to release a
sequence of small patches (See BattleCruiser 3000AD or Rally Championship).

Jon.


>     I am perfectly willing to take Papy at their word regarding a patch
but
> there has been no word. There are two possible reasons for this:

> 1. They are incapable of communication
> or
> 2. They are unwilling to communicate.

>      If there is a third possibility, what it is? If there is only these
two
> then in my skeptical mind neither of these possibilities bode well. In the
> real world as it stands now I have a choice of either keeping a game I
> cannot accept in its present state or getting back the $45 I paid for it.
I
> choose the cash. And, as I said, your faith may be rewarded. In which case
I
> shall run down to the store and again purchase NASCAR 4 and it will give
me
> the greatest pleasure to take all the "I TOLD YOU SO!'s" you or anyone
else
> care to hand out.
>     There are still a few days until the cutoff for returning the game for
a
> refund. I await some word from Papy. I will believe what they say. If Papy
> says nothing then nothing is what I will believe.



> > I used to think just like you Joe. Papyrus is different. Largely because
> > most of the guys who work on the product play it just as much or more
than
> > we do. I almost think they would make a patch with our without funding.
> They
> > want to play it.

> > Yes it's blind faith, but it's an educated blind faith.

> > Tom

Andre Warrin

N4: Will Papy and Sierra respect us in the morning?

by Andre Warrin » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:05:45



After playing Gunship for months on my C64, hiding my Gunship behind
triangle mountains, slowly raising altitude, shooting a couple of
rockets and quickly ducking behind the traingle again, imagine my
surprise when I played Gunship later on my Amiga 500..
The triangles weren't see-through anymore, they were filled!
Whoa! :)

Andre



>>       After Hasbro gutted Microprose of resources and ruined the name


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