rec.autos.simulators

> I refuse to believe that driving line makes a 4 mph difference at flat-out
> tracks like Talladega and Daytona.  My car isn't loose, it isn't tight, I'm
> not fighting the wheel, I'm down as close to the apron in the turns as I can
> get, my tires are 60 psi.  Yet I can't even hit 191 mph in a straight line,

> I'm curious what I'm missing here.  Last night I raced at online at
> Talladega.  In qualifying, I ran 187.046 while the pole sitter ran over 191.
> During the race, I was lapped by the 2nd place car who passed me as if I was
> standing still.  It was all I could do to stay within five car lengths of
> him in his draft.  Passing him was completely impossible.  Shortly
> thereafter, we came up on a guy with his nose bashed in and he and I were
> DEAD EVEN down the back straight with no draft!

> I refuse to believe that driving line makes a 4 mph difference at flat-out
> tracks like Talladega and Daytona.  My car isn't loose, it isn't tight, I'm
> not fighting the wheel, I'm down as close to the apron in the turns as I can
> get, my tires are 60 psi.  Yet I can't even hit 191 mph in a straight line,
> let alone qualify with an AVERAGE lap of 191 mph.  Are these guys bypassing
> the 70 degree spoiler rule by changing the track type in the track.ini file,
> or am I really just that far off in the setup?  It'll take an awful lot of
> convincing for me to believe somebody's not monkying around where they
> shouldn't be.

> -Chris-
> a.k.a. "Dirt"

> hmmm. i totally suck and have hit 200 mph at daytona in an offline race
with

> hit the high 180s. I wonder if the game models weather and if that has an
> effect on speed.

> chris

> Last week I was wondering why I was so off pace also. So I spent an hour
> and a half at Daytona doing some setup testing. Started with the qual
> setup,
> and just kept doing a qual run, then change one setup value a bit, do
> another qual run to see if I got faster or slower, and did this until
> I'd
> run out of things to adjust. My resulting setup was over .3s faster than
> I started out with, and now I'm right up there in speed with the fast
> guys :)
> So go do a bit of setup testing, and you'll figure it out :)

> > I'm curious what I'm missing here.  Last night I raced at online at
> > Talladega.  In qualifying, I ran 187.046 while the pole sitter ran over 191.
> > During the race, I was lapped by the 2nd place car who passed me as if I was
> > standing still.  It was all I could do to stay within five car lengths of
> > him in his draft.  Passing him was completely impossible.  Shortly
> > thereafter, we came up on a guy with his nose bashed in and he and I were
> > DEAD EVEN down the back straight with no draft!

> > I refuse to believe that driving line makes a 4 mph difference at flat-out
> > tracks like Talladega and Daytona.  My car isn't loose, it isn't tight, I'm
> > not fighting the wheel, I'm down as close to the apron in the turns as I can
> > get, my tires are 60 psi.  Yet I can't even hit 191 mph in a straight line,
> > let alone qualify with an AVERAGE lap of 191 mph.  Are these guys bypassing
> > the 70 degree spoiler rule by changing the track type in the track.ini file,
> > or am I really just that far off in the setup?  It'll take an awful lot of
> > convincing for me to believe somebody's not monkying around where they
> > shouldn't be.

> > -Chris-
> > a.k.a. "Dirt"

> I must confess to backing off a bit on my assertions.  I ran two "fixed"
setup
> races tonight, one at Daytona and the other at Talladega.  I qualified 4th
out
> of 25 or so at Daytona then was taken out before the first turn.  I
qualified on
> pole at Talladega out of 30 or so and finished second by 0.019 seconds.

> Hmmm....

> <chew> <chew> <chew>

> This crow tastes kind of gamey...

> -Chris-
> a.k.a. "Dirt"

> > Last week I was wondering why I was so off pace also. So I spent an hour
> > and a half at Daytona doing some setup testing. Started with the qual
> > setup,
> > and just kept doing a qual run, then change one setup value a bit, do
> > another qual run to see if I got faster or slower, and did this until
> > I'd
> > run out of things to adjust. My resulting setup was over .3s faster than
> > I started out with, and now I'm right up there in speed with the fast
> > guys :)
> > So go do a bit of setup testing, and you'll figure it out :)

> > > I'm curious what I'm missing here.  Last night I raced at online at
> > > Talladega.  In qualifying, I ran 187.046 while the pole sitter ran
over 191.
> > > During the race, I was lapped by the 2nd place car who passed me as if
I was
> > > standing still.  It was all I could do to stay within five car lengths
of
> > > him in his draft.  Passing him was completely impossible.  Shortly
> > > thereafter, we came up on a guy with his nose bashed in and he and I
were
> > > DEAD EVEN down the back straight with no draft!

> > > I refuse to believe that driving line makes a 4 mph difference at
flat-out
> > > tracks like Talladega and Daytona.  My car isn't loose, it isn't
tight, I'm
> > > not fighting the wheel, I'm down as close to the apron in the turns as
I can
> > > get, my tires are 60 psi.  Yet I can't even hit 191 mph in a straight
line,
> > > let alone qualify with an AVERAGE lap of 191 mph.  Are these guys
bypassing
> > > the 70 degree spoiler rule by changing the track type in the track.ini
file,
> > > or am I really just that far off in the setup?  It'll take an awful
lot of
> > > convincing for me to believe somebody's not monkying around where they
> > > shouldn't be.

> > > -Chris-
> > > a.k.a. "Dirt"