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> don

> [|]-(_)-[|]

> >Could you find out what videos were used in designing the line in turn
> >6.
> >I would really like to see for myself. I spent a lot of time at
> >Riverside
> >and don't recall anything like that.

> >"The truth is out there"

> >Yeah, right! Call me when you find it!

> >buzard

> >> I never meant to come across like that, if I did I apoligize also.  As
> far
> >> as the AI goes there are a few tools floating around on the net that
will
> >> let you change the AI yourself.

> >> Scott Sanford
> >> Papyrus

> >> > Scott,

> >> > Sorry if it seems I'm slamming you personally, that wasn't my
> intention.
> >> > But - your replies to my original post and my first rebuttal, seemed
to
> >> say
> >> > I didn't know what I'm talking about. I had to defend my position. As
> for
> >> > knowledge of the track, you could have asked some of your customers
> with
> >> > experience at Riverside to play test for you. We would have been glad
> to
> >> > help. And finally.... will you please look into changing the way
points
> in
> >> > turn six?

> I was with Doug when he got his SCCA racing license at Willow
> Springs in an FV. He raced FV and showroom stock cars at Riverside.
> He drives much better than he types! ; )

> buzard

> > Reduntant repetive... redundant... did I menteion repetitive

> > I would take these ramblings with a grain of salt.

> > > That's a lame excuse. Your modeling for most of the track, the esses
for
> > > instance, is good. The amount of "off road" cornering and passing is
about
> > > right. But noway, and I was there in person to see it, did they apex
turn
> > > six at the inside fence every lap. Tha't over 30 FEET off the
pavement, with
> > > an off camber slope from the fence to the asphalt. And even though
they ran
> > > on bias ply tires they were slicks, which everybody knows have more
bite on
> > > pavement than dirt. I can attest to the fact that Dan Gurney didn't
use your
> > > line, and he was the master of Riverside.

> >Did they "completely***it up"? Or is this strictly a racing line
> >issue,
> >easy addressed by Papy with a patch? Hmmm....

>    You *did* think before you said that, didn't you?!?

>    You mean like the ICR2 settings bug, that only took them 8 months
> to patch?

>    Or do you mean like the GPL patch that only took them 9 months to
> come up with (and created a batch of new bugs)?

>    Or do you mean the patch for the patch for GPL, which has been
> sitting in the Sierra vaults for over a month?

>    GMAFB!  ;)

> "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

> >NO I'm Not "ENTITLED" to anything your right, but when you advertise a
> >game for a while and pump up the hype then ditch it with no official
> >excuse(on Papyrus website) of course it's going to get people in a
> >"hissy fit".
> >Don't they care enough about their customers and say sorry?
> >Don't get mad at me for stating the my opinion, I have every right to
> >say what I'm saying. I'm a customer.
> >Btw N3 is NOT a huge improvement over N2 and N3, IMHO.
> >I believe they started working on a Nascar sim Based on the gpl engine
> >before the development of GPL. I read that in a interview with a papy
> >employee, somewhere.

> Car companies display awsome concept cars at shows every year.  Once in a
while
> (usually Chrysler) they get built and sold.  Sometimes something vaguely
> similar gets built years later.  Often we never see anything remotely like
> them.  Companies take decisions for any number of different reasons, many
of
> which we couldn't even understand from outside the business.  And you know
> what?  They don't owe you shit.  No sorry, no excuses, no explaination.

> Don McCorkle

> So what, like who cares what you buy!!
> They raced "differently" back then. So if you want to race the way
> they do now. There is NO POINT in you buying a game that is based on
> the 1970 era of racing.
> You people think of the most assinine reasons NOT to buy a game. To
> bad you did not have that same attitude about MS Windows, because if
> you did we would not see your shit here now. GO BUY A PLAYSTATION and
> wine to Sony that you don't like the way the game plays, will they fix
> it? NO they won't.

> > north of Riverside and went there for many races. Imagine waiting
> > over 5 years for someone to make "your" track and then
> > completely***it up because of a very foolish mistake. I have

>     It's almost as bad as having HAD "your" track (Portland in my case) and
> then having it REMOVED from the newest version!

> Gunner

> >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, yawn

>    Hey, Mike, do you work for Sierra customer relations?  :)

> "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

> Nope, just got tired of hearing some jerk, piss, and moan about the
> Riverside track, in the new Legends Nascar.  Although he seemed like an
> expert, I'm sure he was just some racecar driver wannabe.

>  : )>

> > >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, yawn

> >    Hey, Mike, do you work for Sierra customer relations?  :)

> > "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> > nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> > a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

> Scott Sanford
> Papyrus

> > > Just wondering then...in those tapes, did the cars behind an accident
> stop
> > > in the middle of the track and spin back n fourth in a circle :) Just
> > > wondering cuz that happens in N3 as well and the only time I see real
> > Nascar
> > > drivers spin like that is when that Black # 3 is around :)

> > Geeze, was that necessary?

> > 1001 Papyrus employees quitting r.a.s. on a wall..  1002 Papyrus
employees
> > quitting r.a.s. on a wall...

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- May the Downforce be with you...

> > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise
> > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."