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Sorry to bother the technically minded again but I'm thinking of
upgrading my processor. I want to get an AMD K6 or K6/2 (preferably
around 333MHz).
Reading the documentation for my motherboard, it says that it supports
Pentium CPU's up to 200MHz.
But it is a socket 7 board (an i430VX) so can I run a K6? Or will it
frazzle my machine into oblivion?

Thanks!

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The difference is in the voltage requirements.  A mobo that
only supports up to 200 mHz cpu's may be to old to support MMX.
K6-2's require an even newer voltage standard.

How do you intend to run a 333 mHz processor with a 200 mHz
mobo?

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OK, I'll try to summarise. I'm not very good with technical Jargon,
y'see! BTW my primary choice now is an AMD K6-300MMX.

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1)My m'board (an i430VX, bought May '97) runs my current CPU, an MMX
P200.

2)I'm pretty sure it runs at 3.3V.

3)The manual says - "Supports 75/90/100/...../180/200 MHz Pentium CPU's.
Although maybe anything beyond 200MHz wasn't invented then:)

4)It has a 321 pin ZIF socket.

5)I know for a fact that it doesn't support PII's, if that affects it at
all.

6)It supports AMD K5's, I know that much.

7)It supports up to 66MHz bus speed.

I'm really grateful for any help, as I can't afford a new machine just
yet and I would really like to improve my GPL experiences!

Cheers!

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If it supports a P5-MMX, it has the split-voltage support that
a regular K6 needs.

And you won't be able to run any cpu at greater than 200 MHz.
To run a K6-300 at 300 will require a new mobo.

Based on what you have said, you will have to get a new
motherboard to go with any new cpu you buy - whether it's
a K6, K6-2 or a P2, so maybe you should consider a P2?

The cheapest way to go is probably to get a cheap super
socket 7 board, with a K6-2 300.  By mail order, that should
be around $200 or less.

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To run a K6-2 the bus speed needs to be 100 MHZ, not 66. Your board's bus speed
is too slow to  a K2.

Pentium I chips normally use a BabyAT size board,. They need a  66MHZ bus speed
board, and must have a SOCKET  7 CPU socket.

A Pentium II normally use an ATX size board ), SLOT-1 CPU socket, and 66 or 100
MHZ bus, depending on WHICH SPEED of PII it  is.

A Intel Celeron needs SLOT1 and  66MHZ bus is fast enough. They do come in Baby
AT size or ATX.

A K6-2 needs SOCKET7 and 100MHZ, The good news is that K6-2 boards usually come
in Baby AT size (ATX size also available) so the new MB's designed for the K6-2
 at your  local dealer are the right size.

The slang name for a SOCKET 7 board that runs at speeds up to 100MHZ and is
designed for K6-2 chips is 'SUPER SOCKET 7" board.  They sell like hotcakes now
for about $100. All local dealers will have them.  The actual CPU, a K6-2 will
cost about $230 and may or may not take the old style EDO RAM.

Very likely.

Correct.

Um, that could be a real problem. AFAIK you need a 100 MHz system to
run the K6/2 at 300 MHz. I think you'll need a new motherboard - but
then you could also buy a cheap Slot1 MB and a Celeron A with 300 or
333 MHz which should give you better performance of GPL as this
doesn't support 3DNow!.

CU
Daniel
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Has the Celeron been proven to be faster??? I thought they had hardly any
cache, the early ones didn't have any!!

Just my thoughts, any one out there with an AMD K-2?? What frame rates are
you getting??? Do we really want to give Intel more money to make pretty
adverts????

Scott

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