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Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=142

    Pete

Try adjusting/lowering linearity.  I've heard a lot of people are running as low as 40%, mine is around 90.  If that doesn't help,
raise the wheel lock.

If that doesn't help call a medic :)))  It could be just a ***setup.  Everyone who is posting setups nowadays, uses a alot of
track bar.  This was my first attempt with a high TB.

But I do more feathering on the gas with it then anything I've ran all season.  I really, really wanted some tire wear.  While I
overall like the tire modeling in N2003 I think they overdid the tire grip on SS.  No way does WC loose this much tire.

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Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com

    Pete

I had a league race tonight but havent had a chance to turn a single lap at
the big tex this week.  I was in such a rush to get into the race I forgot
to load the Logi profiler which really mucked the wheels axis/forces up.
She's still loose as hell but I could at least go a lap without a spin now
<g>.   Once the tars heat she comes in nice.

Thx guys

Mitch

    Pete

Thx Pete

I always thought more linearity made it twitchier.

  30% seemed kinda twitchy for my likes, I like to turn the wheel a little bit
  :)).  Im generally pretty close to 90%.  I deleted my other NR2k3 shortcut
  so now I have to use the Profiler to start it up :)

  Thx Pete

  >     I plugged the Logitech wheel in I have and it liked about 30%
  linarity.
  >
  >     Pete
  >


  > > I didnt intend to be mean, this time anyways :))
  > >
  > > I had a league race tonight but havent had a chance to turn a single lap
  > at
  > > the big tex this week.  I was in such a rush to get into the race I
  forgot
  > > to load the Logi profiler which really mucked the wheels axis/forces up.
  > > She's still loose as hell but I could at least go a lap without a spin
  now
  > > <g>.   Once the tars heat she comes in nice.
  > >
  > > Thx guys
  > >
  > > Mitch
  >
  >

Ahhh see, when you mess with the throttle settings like that, I dunno, kinda cheap imo.  Yeah I know its "in the game" but c'mon.

      I just went and tried it and it actually is just about perfect for
  balance
  for me. I'm running 100% linarity. I found it a touch loose in 1-2 and a
  touch tight in 3-4.
      You might try what I mentioned with the Bristol setup. Go into the
  advanced settings and start your throttle response at 10% and see if it
  helps you might need more but this will kill some of the looseness during
  the exit of the turn.
      You could also try a pound less air in the LR and or a pound more
  in the LF. This should fix the looseness without changing the setup.
      Tire wear was excellent over all a well balanced setup.

      Pete

  > This must be one of them there pot issues :)  I can't turn 1/2 lap at 1/2
  > throttle with this one :)
  >
  >

    It does on my Logitech.

    Pete

  I always thought more linearity made it twitchier.

So say from 0-100% (I run 95%) wouldn't you get twitchier going from 0 to 100?  Wonder why it is the opposite for some.

      It does on my Logitech.

      Pete

    I always thought more linearity made it twitchier.

    Well, I first offered this suggestion to the fixed setup racers in Rascar because
many couldn't drive the setup at Bristol as it was far too loose. This change allowed
them to race and have a competitive car. I don't need it because my TSW has so
much more pedal travel that I can get far greater control for accelerating.
    Not everyone can afford expensive controllers and that is why things like this are put
in the game. Trying to offer a far greater number of people enjoyment in a product is
more important than a few diehard *** racers. The fact that there are differences
between calibrations with the Operating Systems and the Pots does play a role.
    Cheap? Maybe, but tell that to the guy who can't get a car to navigate well around the
track. It also offers up to the individual the possiblity he is either getting on the gas too
soon or too hard and chances are he will modify his driving style to take advantage at
some point.
    You have seemingly got more concerned about people using aids in the game than
those that are actually cheating and using things outside the game. Where were you
when I ranted about the cheaters long ago. It seems now that you are losing races that
it has become an all encompassing crusade on your part.
    I know you are an excellent racer and know how to do great setups but as EA says "If it's
in the game, it's in the game."

    Pete

  Ahhh see, when you mess with the throttle settings like that, I dunno, kinda cheap imo.  Yeah I know its "in the game" but c'mon.

    Yes, thats the way I have always had it happen. Why it is the opposite for some I don't know.

    Pete

  So say from 0-100% (I run 95%) wouldn't you get twitchier going from 0 to 100?  Wonder why it is the opposite for some.

Stability control improving tire wear?  Now that sucks :)

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Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com

    Well, I first offered this suggestion to the fixed setup racers in Rascar because
many couldn't drive the setup at Bristol as it was far too loose. This change allowed
them to race and have a competitive car. I don't need it because my TSW has so
much more pedal travel that I can get far greater control for accelerating.
    Not everyone can afford expensive controllers and that is why things like this are put
in the game