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by **Mitch_** » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 02:49:13

Ive never used any aids before but after the past few days with F1C online
it looks like the only way to be competitive is to enable Traction Control.
Most seem to feel Low TC is ok but if you can use low why not just use high
TC? If I understand correctly FIA lets the teams use TC so I guess it's ok
in this sim. Roof-riding on the other hand is cheating ;)

Mitch

by **Nats** » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:07:35

Well I for one choose high speed stability, traction control and antilock
brakes. The former becuase I use a joystick. And the latter two because they
have them in real life dont they? Although Im not sure how the real life
traction control and antilock brakes equate to in the game - is it the high
or low settings? I use the high settings which tend to prevent locking
wheels and spinning most of the time. Seems accurate to me.

It would be very useful if someone here who knows a lot about Formula 1
could explain how to set up the game that would equate most realistically to
a real F1 car.

--
Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

"Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

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by **Ian** » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:09:39

> Well I for one choose high speed stability, traction control and
> antilock brakes. The former becuase I use a joystick. And the latter
> two because they have them in real life dont they? Although Im not
> sure how the real life traction control and antilock brakes equate to
> in the game - is it the high or low settings? I use the high settings
> which tend to prevent locking wheels and spinning most of the time.
> Seems accurate to me.

> It would be very useful if someone here who knows a lot about Formula
> 1 could explain how to set up the game that would equate most
> realistically to a real F1 car.

There's no ABS in real F1.
So basically, you could have TC and Autoshift.

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Ian P
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by **Despise** » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:54:53

Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control or Low?

by **Ian** » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:11:20

> Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control
> or Low?

>> There's no ABS in real F1.
>> So basically, you could have TC and Autoshift.

>> --

>> Ian P
>> <email invalid due to spammers>

I think low, but IIRC the real F1 cars have a variable system they can
adjust while driving.

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Ian P
<email invalid due to spammers>

by **Redmis** » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:08:55

The only really 'cheat' aid in F1C is stability assistance. This allows you
to take corners at unrealistic speeds. The other aids are helpful but won't
really make you faster than someone using no aids.

by **Lawman_027** » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:02:43

> Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control or Low?

This came up during the initial stages of F12002. It was accepted that
LOW TC was the most real when compared to actual F1 teams. How was
this determined? I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am.

by **Nick** » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:43:45

No ABS in F1, BTW.

by **Mitch_** » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:40:17

Ok Im now running with low traction control but Im still loose as a goose
coming outta the turns :) I guess thats my issue ;)

Thanks guys

Mitch

by **Alex** » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:20:46

You can use High TC because real f1 have a TC that in any case don't
permit wheel to spin while exiting from a curve, it's calibrated for
each track! so use high TC and auto shift like real f1.

>>Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control or Low?

> This came up during the initial stages of F12002. It was accepted that
> LOW TC was the most real when compared to actual F1 teams. How was
> this determined? I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am.

by **Russell Keatin** » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:37:16

For what years were traction control and auto shifted used? Was it
throughout 1999-2002? Also, what type of auto shift? Up and down, just up,
just down? Just looking to make things more realistic by selecting the
correct options.

On a side note, I noticed that when you use launch control at the start of
the race, you get auto shift (up) during take off regardless of the shift
options selected.

Thanks,
Russell

> You can use High TC because real f1 have a TC that in any case don't
> permit wheel to spin while exiting from a curve, it's calibrated for
> each track! so use high TC and auto shift like real f1.

by **Nick** » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 03:12:53

Low TC is more realistic. Most F1 teams have a fully adjustable system where
the drivers can +/- the TC ratio as they drive.

by **Wojtek Musia** » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:21:51

I think using low TC and only up autoshift is the most realistic setting -
you can select your gears and control the car with the throttle, so it's
still fun. It would be great to have a possibility to control the amount of
TC, though.

Wojtek

by **Alex** » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:54:46

Now f1 cars use TC and up and down auto shift!
Remember at imola barrichello put out the car is hand during he was
passing ralf Sch in full acceleration!(auto shift)

> For what years were traction control and auto shifted used? Was it
> throughout 1999-2002? Also, what type of auto shift? Up and down, just up,
> just down? Just looking to make things more realistic by selecting the
> correct options.

> On a side note, I noticed that when you use launch control at the start of
> the race, you get auto shift (up) during take off regardless of the shift
> options selected.

> Thanks,
> Russell

>>You can use High TC because real f1 have a TC that in any case don't
>>permit wheel to spin while exiting from a curve, it's calibrated for
>>each track! so use high TC and auto shift like real f1.

>>>>Which would you say is closer to reality Ian, High traction control or

> Low?

>>>This came up during the initial stages of F12002. It was accepted that
>>>LOW TC was the most real when compared to actual F1 teams. How was
>>>this determined? I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am.

by **Redmis** » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:53:12

The downshifting algorithms in the real cars is far more sophisticated than
those in F1C. I find it nearly impossible to use auto downshifting in F1C -
especially without full traction control. It often downshifts as I'm
trail-braking towards the apex, unsettling the car in a big way.

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