when the servers go
down might prove to be of interest.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Pete
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Pete
> http://www.costinsracesims.com/PostNuke/html/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&...
> Pete
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if they are doing the collecting in America, then what difference do the
laws of other countries have on the legality? And I'm sure in the patch
Eula there was probably some teeeny tiny mention that they could do
whatever the heck they wanted to cuz you opened the box.
dh
>>Fiction - collecting and storing data like this is illegal in too many
>>countries.
> if they are doing the collecting in America, then what difference do the
> laws of other countries have on the legality? And I'm sure in the patch
> Eula there was probably some teeeny tiny mention that they could do
> whatever the heck they wanted to cuz you opened the box.
> dh
Anything in a EULA conflicting with current law would be invalid, btw.
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Your joking about thinking it is illegal right? maybe misinformed? Just
for instance, If it were "Illegal" to the extent that it disuaded anyone
from ever doing just what this post said they could do, then why oh why is
Spyware tools like AdAware, and the likes, so helpful & sought after? Why
does this to you, seem so different than what I can do with a tiny bit of
code on the webserver, let alone cookies and such?
Oh well. Dont mean to bag on ya.
Joachim Trensz enlightened us with:
>>> Fiction - collecting and storing data like this is illegal in too
>>> many countries.
>> if they are doing the collecting in America, then what difference
>> do the laws of other countries have on the legality? And I'm sure
>> in the patch Eula there was probably some teeeny tiny mention that
>> they could do whatever the heck they wanted to cuz you opened the
>> box. dh
> since you seem to enjoy 'maybe's' ... <g> maybe collecting data like
> this is illegal in the US as well? :)
> Anything in a EULA conflicting with current law would be invalid, btw.
Pete
So is ***, but it still happens <g>
>>> I don't know how many of you have read this but I thought the
> results
>>>when the servers go
>>>down might prove to be of interest.
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> ewtopic&t=1979
>>> Pete
>>Fiction - collecting and storing data like this is illegal in too many
>>countries.
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>>Achim
>>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> So is ***, but it still happens <g>
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> Your joking about thinking it is illegal right? maybe misinformed? Just
> for instance, If it were "Illegal" to the extent that it disuaded anyone
> from ever doing just what this post said they could do, then why oh why is
> Spyware tools like AdAware, and the likes, so helpful & sought after? Why
> does this to you, seem so different than what I can do with a tiny bit of
> code on the webserver, let alone cookies and such?
> Oh well. Dont mean to bag on ya.
> Joachim Trensz enlightened us with:
>>>berlin.de:
>>>>Fiction - collecting and storing data like this is illegal in too
>>>>many countries.
>>> if they are doing the collecting in America, then what difference
>>>do the laws of other countries have on the legality? And I'm sure
>>>in the patch Eula there was probably some teeeny tiny mention that
>>>they could do whatever the heck they wanted to cuz you opened the
>>>box. dh
>>since you seem to enjoy 'maybe's' ... <g> maybe collecting data like
>>this is illegal in the US as well? :)
>>Anything in a EULA conflicting with current law would be invalid, btw.
I do think that any kind of keystroke logging without the user knowing
it is extremely illegal everywhere in the world.
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Bill Bollinger
www.gsxn.com
>> I do know for a fact this was being done as far back as Nascar 1.
>> The results were never published. Right or wrong, legal or not, I would
>> sure love to see who wasn't using a level playing field.
>> Pete
> No disrespect, but if you have the facts, lets see them, otherwise this is
> just an urban legend for all the *** theorists. There are enough
> of
> those stupid things out there as it is, no need for more.
as I reread my post, even as I wrote it, I did state that I didnt mean to
bag on ya... so will all due respect for your obvious experience &
intelligence, and all that, which I really didnt mean to sound as though I
was ***oling on, I did ask if you didnt think it more or less can/could
happen anywhere that you 1 agree to the terms and licensing agreement and
use of thier servers, for a fee or free, that part in EULA where it kind of
states in effect "any information collected" which may be used to monitor
and improve the service and or software?
He didnt ASK if Fiction or true, I think if you reread the post, you will
see that he actually made the statement, Believe It Or Not...
Joachim Trensz enlightened us with:
>> Your joking about thinking it is illegal right? maybe misinformed? Just
>> for instance, If it were "Illegal" to the extent that it
>> disuaded anyone from ever doing just what this post said they could
>> do, then why oh why is Spyware tools like AdAware, and the likes, so
>> helpful & sought after? Why does this to you, seem so different
>> than what I can do with a tiny bit of code on the webserver, let
>> alone cookies and such? Oh well. Dont mean to bag on ya.
>> Joachim Trensz enlightened us with:
>>>> berlin.de:
>>>>> Fiction - collecting and storing data like this is illegal in too
>>>>> many countries.
>>>> if they are doing the collecting in America, then what difference
>>>> do the laws of other countries have on the legality? And I'm sure
>>>> in the patch Eula there was probably some teeeny tiny mention that
>>>> they could do whatever the heck they wanted to cuz you opened the
>>>> box. dh
>>> since you seem to enjoy 'maybe's' ... <g> maybe collecting data like
>>> this is illegal in the US as well? :)
>>> Anything in a EULA conflicting with current law would be invalid,
>>> btw.
> Plowboy, in his original message, Pete asked 'Fiction or true', and I
> understood that as an invitation to say my opinion, which I did.
> I do think that any kind of keystroke logging without the user knowing
> it is extremely illegal everywhere in the world.
> as I reread my post, even as I wrote it, I did state that I didnt mean to
> bag on ya... so will all due respect for your obvious experience &
> intelligence, and all that, which I really didnt mean to sound as though I
> was ***oling on, I did ask if you didnt think it more or less can/could
> happen anywhere that you 1 agree to the terms and licensing agreement and
> use of thier servers, for a fee or free, that part in EULA where it kind of
> states in effect "any information collected" which may be used to monitor
> and improve the service and or software?
> He didnt ASK if Fiction or true, I think if you reread the post, you will
> see that he actually made the statement, Believe It Or Not...
> Joachim Trensz enlightened us with:
>>>Joachime,
>>>Your joking about thinking it is illegal right? maybe misinformed? Just
>>>for instance, If it were "Illegal" to the extent that it
>>>disuaded anyone from ever doing just what this post said they could
>>>do, then why oh why is Spyware tools like AdAware, and the likes, so
>>>helpful & sought after? Why does this to you, seem so different
>>>than what I can do with a tiny bit of code on the webserver, let
>>>alone cookies and such? Oh well. Dont mean to bag on ya.
>>>Joachim Trensz enlightened us with:
>>>>>berlin.de:
>>>>>>Fiction - collecting and storing data like this is illegal in too
>>>>>>many countries.
>>>>> if they are doing the collecting in America, then what difference
>>>>>do the laws of other countries have on the legality? And I'm sure
>>>>>in the patch Eula there was probably some teeeny tiny mention that
>>>>>they could do whatever the heck they wanted to cuz you opened the
>>>>>box. dh
>>>>since you seem to enjoy 'maybe's' ... <g> maybe collecting data like
>>>>this is illegal in the US as well? :)
>>>>Anything in a EULA conflicting with current law would be invalid,
>>>>btw.
>>Plowboy, in his original message, Pete asked 'Fiction or true', and I
>>understood that as an invitation to say my opinion, which I did.
>>I do think that any kind of keystroke logging without the user knowing
>>it is extremely illegal everywhere in the world.
But thanks for explaining it, your politeness is much appreciated!
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I race in a game and i crash out.. but i decide to stick around and since
i
am in windows mode racing nascar i decide to do some buying and banking.
Now you say they do keyboard collecting. that means if i happend to log
into my bank accounts or purchase using credit cards and than watch the
end of that race i got crashed out on by toggling between windows task
that someone at sierra, papyrus or vivendi actualyl might have my credit
card accounts and password.
Does that mean if the code is still there in F1RST releases they will in
kind be able to gather
privacy data.
Now i know how they fund these deals....
OUCH...
Don Wilshe
> I race in a game and i crash out.. but i decide to stick around and since
> i am in windows mode racing nascar i decide to do some buying and banking.
> Now you say they do keyboard collecting. that means if i happend to log
> into my bank accounts or purchase using credit cards and than watch the
> end of that race i got crashed out on by toggling between windows task
> that someone at sierra, papyrus or vivendi actualyl might have my credit
> card accounts and password.
> Does that mean if the code is still there in F1RST releases they will in
> kind be able to gather privacy data.
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Achim
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Lol, you of all people worrying about someone hacking your pc is
priceless.