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MS FF wheel driver question- N2003

Timmy Ferrel

MS FF wheel driver question- N2003

by Timmy Ferrel » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 02:16:25

Hi all,
I'm having trouble keeping the FF settings under N2003.
Most of the time when I go to a track the wheel (MS FF Sidewinder) goes from
it's "centered" position, (which I  have always assumed to be it's "force
activated" position)
to a, for lack of a better term, "slack" postion which offers no force
resistance at all. If I go into the options menu, change for "direct input"
driver to "generic" and then back to direct input, re-calibrate and then
re-assign, it's fine.
The wheel itself works fine but this process is somewhat cumbersome,
especially in online races.
Can anyone help or have any ideas?
Thanks,
Timmy
Steve Smit

MS FF wheel driver question- N2003

by Steve Smit » Thu, 03 Jul 2003 08:38:27

Same prob here.


PlowBo

MS FF wheel driver question- N2003

by PlowBo » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 04:39:04

Mine is the all black version, and I have the opposite problem,  Mine acts
like it loads a profile other than the one I have created for Nascar, you
know where you set deadzone, separate pedals, then low FF, and zero
centering forces then save profile...  if someone resets the server I get
some other "profile" (but still mine is selected).  I have the joystick
shortcut to the control panel on desktop, and usually I have it opened up so
the MS software is up...  so when this happens I usually hit the windows key
(park the car 1st of course), into the control panel  applet select another
profile ( I have 4 of them in a row set identical) go back into the game and
all is fine...  takes a minute though.  I have missed start of race due to
this...

What is weird to me is that with my older BX6 motherboard with the 1000 mhz
chip, and same install of XP I never ever had this problem.  I assumed it
was all just me, because I upgraded and had XP do a REPAIR on itself.

Guess Ill have to format and try soon, but time..  I think there is a "
<<please Im not sure how it was worded either>> certain Chipset-sidewinder
software patch" at the MS site BTW  Have you guys tried this yet?  seems to
be reading that a lot of USB with VIA chipset thing is a problem but Im not
really sure  on that.


> Same prob here.



> > Hi all,
> > I'm having trouble keeping the FF settings under N2003.
> > Most of the time when I go to a track the wheel (MS FF Sidewinder) goes
> from
> > it's "centered" position, (which I  have always assumed to be it's
"force
> > activated" position)
> > to a, for lack of a better term, "slack" postion which offers no force
> > resistance at all. If I go into the options menu, change for "direct
> input"
> > driver to "generic" and then back to direct input, re-calibrate and then
> > re-assign, it's fine.
> > The wheel itself works fine but this process is somewhat cumbersome,
> > especially in online races.
> > Can anyone help or have any ideas?
> > Thanks,
> > Timmy

Steve Smit

MS FF wheel driver question- N2003

by Steve Smit » Sat, 05 Jul 2003 07:42:51

The latest Sidewinder patch I could find on MS's site was dated 2001, during
the reign of the *first* Sidewinder FF wheel (all-black ver.).



> Mine is the all black version, and I have the opposite problem,  Mine acts
> like it loads a profile other than the one I have created for Nascar, you
> know where you set deadzone, separate pedals, then low FF, and zero
> centering forces then save profile...  if someone resets the server I get
> some other "profile" (but still mine is selected).  I have the joystick
> shortcut to the control panel on desktop, and usually I have it opened up
so
> the MS software is up...  so when this happens I usually hit the windows
key
> (park the car 1st of course), into the control panel  applet select
another
> profile ( I have 4 of them in a row set identical) go back into the game
and
> all is fine...  takes a minute though.  I have missed start of race due to
> this...

> What is weird to me is that with my older BX6 motherboard with the 1000
mhz
> chip, and same install of XP I never ever had this problem.  I assumed it
> was all just me, because I upgraded and had XP do a REPAIR on itself.

> Guess Ill have to format and try soon, but time..  I think there is a "
> <<please Im not sure how it was worded either>> certain Chipset-sidewinder
> software patch" at the MS site BTW  Have you guys tried this yet?  seems
to
> be reading that a lot of USB with VIA chipset thing is a problem but Im
not
> really sure  on that.



> > Same prob here.



> > > Hi all,
> > > I'm having trouble keeping the FF settings under N2003.
> > > Most of the time when I go to a track the wheel (MS FF Sidewinder)
goes
> > from
> > > it's "centered" position, (which I  have always assumed to be it's
> "force
> > > activated" position)
> > > to a, for lack of a better term, "slack" postion which offers no force
> > > resistance at all. If I go into the options menu, change for "direct
> > input"
> > > driver to "generic" and then back to direct input, re-calibrate and
then
> > > re-assign, it's fine.
> > > The wheel itself works fine but this process is somewhat cumbersome,
> > > especially in online races.
> > > Can anyone help or have any ideas?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Timmy

Larr

MS FF wheel driver question- N2003

by Larr » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:46:31

I suspect it's that fully WinXP WHQL Certified SideWinder 4.0 software that
says it isn't compatible at install and hasn't been updated in 5 years :)

Sorry, I just can't help but bring that up from time to time.  It's just so
hilarious to me.

Seriously, the drivers for SideWinders ARE very, very long-in-the-tooth.  My
SideWinder does some of this goofy stuff too, but only when NOT in the game.
Once I'm in the game it is ok.

-Larry



> Mine is the all black version, and I have the opposite problem,  Mine acts
> like it loads a profile other than the one I have created for Nascar, you
> know where you set deadzone, separate pedals, then low FF, and zero
> centering forces then save profile...  if someone resets the server I get
> some other "profile" (but still mine is selected).  I have the joystick
> shortcut to the control panel on desktop, and usually I have it opened up
so
> the MS software is up...  so when this happens I usually hit the windows
key
> (park the car 1st of course), into the control panel  applet select
another
> profile ( I have 4 of them in a row set identical) go back into the game
and
> all is fine...  takes a minute though.  I have missed start of race due to
> this...

> What is weird to me is that with my older BX6 motherboard with the 1000
mhz
> chip, and same install of XP I never ever had this problem.  I assumed it
> was all just me, because I upgraded and had XP do a REPAIR on itself.

> Guess Ill have to format and try soon, but time..  I think there is a "
> <<please Im not sure how it was worded either>> certain Chipset-sidewinder
> software patch" at the MS site BTW  Have you guys tried this yet?  seems
to
> be reading that a lot of USB with VIA chipset thing is a problem but Im
not
> really sure  on that.



> > Same prob here.



> > > Hi all,
> > > I'm having trouble keeping the FF settings under N2003.
> > > Most of the time when I go to a track the wheel (MS FF Sidewinder)
goes
> > from
> > > it's "centered" position, (which I  have always assumed to be it's
> "force
> > > activated" position)
> > > to a, for lack of a better term, "slack" postion which offers no force
> > > resistance at all. If I go into the options menu, change for "direct
> > input"
> > > driver to "generic" and then back to direct input, re-calibrate and
then
> > > re-assign, it's fine.
> > > The wheel itself works fine but this process is somewhat cumbersome,
> > > especially in online races.
> > > Can anyone help or have any ideas?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Timmy


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