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by **wtonsm..** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I have 2 PC's that are not networked.

I would like to setup my P233 as a dedicated server, using an ADSL
connection.

I would like to setup my P3-500 as a client, but I want to avoid
sharing the ADSL bandwidth with the P233.

I noticed at WinVROC that one of the hosting options is "allow serial
connection". This makes me think it possible for my P3-500 to join my
dedicated server via direct connection, while others are joining via
WinVROC.

Has anyone tried this? Can you offer any details on how to do it?

I presume you must enable the direct connection somehow before
launching GPL. Also, I use a LapLink parallel cable to transfer files
occasionally - would a parallel connection be possible (believe it
would be faster).

Another option would be to dial-in to my P233 with a 56K modem, but I
would obviously prefer a direct connection.

Thanks in advance for your assistance. I love this game and WinVROC has
made it even better!

Wilf Tonsmann

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by **Arne Marti** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> I have 2 PC's that are not networked.

> I would like to setup my P233 as a dedicated server, using an ADSL
> connection.

> I would like to setup my P3-500 as a client, but I want to avoid
> sharing the ADSL bandwidth with the P233.

If you setup a network between your two PCs it won't share the ASDL
line, it will just use the internal network for that connection.
This is how it's done: Your P233 will have a network card with the ASDL
connection, you will also need another network card in this PC which
will link to the internal network. Then place a third network card in
the P500, and connect this to the second card on the P233 with a crossed
TP cable. Traffic between your two PC will then go through his internal
network, while the ASDL connection will work unaffected on the P233. GPL
allows you to accept connections from multiple network cards, so no
problem there.
Of course getting two new network cards will be more expensive than a
serial cable, but it's also much much faster, and far better suited if
you want to do other things between your two PCs.

By using a modem you will in fact use bandwidth from the ASDL line, as
the connection will go from the modem to your ISP and then back to your
other PC through the ASDL line!

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Arne Martin

by **Arne Marti** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> > I have 2 PC's that are not networked.

> > I would like to setup my P233 as a dedicated server, using an ADSL
> > connection.

> > I would like to setup my P3-500 as a client, but I want to avoid
> > sharing the ADSL bandwidth with the P233.

Having said all this though, I realize that a P233 is probably to slow
to host a field of any size anyway, and it's really the CPU limiting the
number of cars you can host, not the bandwidth. In fact you'll almost
certainly be able to host more cars by using the P3 as both server and
for racing.

--
Arne Martin

by **N. Coke** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Hmmm...I thought on a dedicated server a P233 would be more than plenty to
handle a full size field since it does not process any graphics for the
host.

Nafi Coker

>Having said all this though, I realize that a P233 is probably to slow
>to host a field of any size anyway, and it's really the CPU limiting the
>number of cars you can host, not the bandwidth. In fact you'll almost
>certainly be able to host more cars by using the P3 as both server and
>for racing.

>--
>Arne Martin

by **Arne Marti** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> Hmmm...I thought on a dedicated server a P233 would be more than plenty to
> handle a full size field since it does not process any graphics for the
> host.

If I'm not very much mistaken a server has to do the graphics even if it
only acts as a server.

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Arne Martin

by **wtonsm..** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Sorry Arne, Nafi is right. I have run a dedicated server, and it stays
on the reply screen throughout the race, and displays static only in
the replay window. According to VROC
(http://www.vroc.net/html/vroc20/servers.htm)
they say
"given a high speed connection to the Internet, we believe that a P-133
can host a full field of 19 players with excellent results."

So I feel all I have to do is get that ADSL pipe onto my P233 and I
have a good dedicated server.

Wilf Tonsmann

> > Hmmm...I thought on a dedicated server a P233 would be more than
plenty to
> > handle a full size field since it does not process any graphics for
the
> > host.

> If I'm not very much mistaken a server has to do the graphics even if
it
> only acts as a server.

> --
> Arne Martin

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by **N. Coke** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I don't know if we are talking about the same thing, but, when you initiate
a GPL dedicated server through command line arguments, (or through
Win/VROC) you will not even see the preview screen, it is all blanked out.
It does not process any graphics and you cannot race on that server machine
even if you wanted to. You could in fact run the server PC in software
rendering mode, and in a window, it doesn't make a difference a bit. The
only limiting factor for the field size would be the network bandwidth, and
perhaps memory for saving full replays.

Nafi

>> Hmmm...I thought on a dedicated server a P233 would be more than plenty
to
>> handle a full size field since it does not process any graphics for the
>> host.

>If I'm not very much mistaken a server has to do the graphics even if it
>only acts as a server.

>--
>Arne Martin

by **David Ewin** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> Having said all this though, I realize that a P233 is probably to slow
> to host a field of any size anyway, and it's really the CPU limiting the
> number of cars you can host, not the bandwidth. In fact you'll almost
> certainly be able to host more cars by using the P3 as both server and
> for racing.

I'm not sure if that's true. I race in Jason Mond's GPLPRC league and he
just changed his setup so that he has a dedicated host on a lowly P-166 and
the racing has been pretty smooth (although the race I ran had only 11 or
12 participants). Anyone else have an actual experience with this?

Dave Ewing

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by **Arne Marti** » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> Sorry Arne, Nafi is right. I have run a dedicated server, and it stays
> on the reply screen throughout the race, and displays static only in
> the replay window. According to VROC
> (http://www.vroc.net/html/vroc20/servers.htm)
> they say
> "given a high speed connection to the Internet, we believe that a P-133
> can host a full field of 19 players with excellent results."

Well I did say I could be mistaken :-)

Have never tried to set up a PC as a dedicated server myself, but I know
from experience that a P233 (I think it was a 233, might have been a
200), that was setup as a had problems as soon as more then 15 or so
cars joined, and it was a highspeed connection which shouldn't have a
problem with 20 cars... Could of course be the connection, but it really
shouldn't be in that case.

--
Arne Martin

by **N. Coke** » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Arne, we have to be more specific when we talk about "high speed
connection", because the upstream speed is the limiting factor here. I

which limits my hosting ability to about 14 cars max.

Nafi

>Well I did say I could be mistaken :-)

>Have never tried to set up a PC as a dedicated server myself, but I know
>from experience that a P233 (I think it was a 233, might have been a
>200), that was setup as a had problems as soon as more then 15 or so
>cars joined, and it was a highspeed connection which shouldn't have a
>problem with 20 cars... Could of course be the connection, but it really
>shouldn't be in that case.

by **Eldre** » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

writes:

I'm running one on a P200mmx at work. I haven't heard any *major*
complaints...:)

Eldred
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with experience...
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by **Arne Marti** » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> Arne, we have to be more specific when we talk about "high speed
> connection", because the upstream speed is the limiting factor here. I

> which limits my hosting ability to about 14 cars max.

of course, but I can't remember the exact specs :-)
think it was a 1mbit/sec connection (both up and down) though...

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Arne Martin

by **wtonsm..** » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Gentlemen,

This thread has produced some interesting responses, but I am still
hopeful someone will have an answer regarding my original question,
which I will restate:

Can anyone tell me what would be involved in setting up a serial or
parallel connection between a GPL dedicated server and a client machine?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Wilf

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by **Mike Horto** » Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Wrong Arne. A 233 is more than capable of hosting a full field in
dedicated mode. I just setup a dedicated server using a P200/64MB
RAM/W2K and people are getting better connects than they were when
they connected to my PII350/65MB RAM/Win98SE

Mike Horton
http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl
GPL F2/F3 Hotlaps and Other Downloadables

>> > I have 2 PC's that are not networked.

>> > I would like to setup my P233 as a dedicated server, using an ADSL
>> > connection.

>> > I would like to setup my P3-500 as a client, but I want to avoid
>> > sharing the ADSL bandwidth with the P233.

>Having said all this though, I realize that a P233 is probably to slow
>to host a field of any size anyway, and it's really the CPU limiting the
>number of cars you can host, not the bandwidth. In fact you'll almost
>certainly be able to host more cars by using the P3 as both server and
>for racing.

by **Mark Seer** » Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Glad to hear it Mike.
I might be needing a host this sunday <G>

Mark

> Wrong Arne. A 233 is more than capable of hosting a full field in
> dedicated mode. I just setup a dedicated server using a P200/64MB
> RAM/W2K and people are getting better connects than they were when
> they connected to my PII350/65MB RAM/Win98SE

> Mike Horton
> http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl
> GPL F2/F3 Hotlaps and Other Downloadables

> >> > I have 2 PC's that are not networked.

> >> > I would like to setup my P233 as a dedicated server, using an ADSL
> >> > connection.

> >> > I would like to setup my P3-500 as a client, but I want to avoid
> >> > sharing the ADSL bandwidth with the P233.

> >Having said all this though, I realize that a P233 is probably to slow
> >to host a field of any size anyway, and it's really the CPU limiting the
> >number of cars you can host, not the bandwidth. In fact you'll almost
> >certainly be able to host more cars by using the P3 as both server and
> >for racing.

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