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        Here's hopin' for a sequel to papyrus' NASCAR for the playstation
<annual versions would be great!> This game is great...I've been
playing it steadily since i got it a week ago and I must say this is
MY favorite game for my Playstation...tons o' fun! I just hope this
isn't a one time deal! I'd love to see a new version next year with
either/or improved graphics or full 40 car races. this is not to say
the graphics aren't good it's just i believe the playstation is
capable of "cleaner" graphics<ie. track textures> AGAIN I love this
game and these are in now way gripes..simply things I'd love to see
added: Ambient sounds...crowd cheers
            Weather conditions
        More night races...beauty!
        Changeable car...I know you can make your own car in the PC version
but how about a small library of them for the PS version.

Please papyrus...keep this one on the PS!!And congrats on an
incredible game!

JASON

I figure I'll buy this one next week or so- when I can find it for
cheaper than $54.99. Sales can get down to $39.99 locally.

One thing that worries me- is there a menu for calibrating an analog
controller? I understand NASCAR is prepared for a Mad Catz- but even
so, does NASCAR allow you to do your own calibration of it, or must
you live with their pre-notated calibration of a Mad Catz? I ask,
because Andretti racing *didn't* have a menu option for calibration,
and I had to return it. It had other problems too.

Psygnosis' F1, on the other hand, is a *masterpiece*. I realize people
are flaming it, but I really don't see why. Have they driven through
downtown Monaco?!? So far, every course I've done in the past 2 weeks
has been amazing. The car model took some getting used to, but now
seems fantastic (if a little too forgiving), and there is no "canned
spin" like in GP2. Arcaders are, of course, going to be very
dissapointed- it isn't ridge racer. But anybody who likes racing sims
should buy it. I bought a Playstation to run it, and II may have to
buy F1 again for PC when it comes out there!

I just hope NASCAR for PSX is optimized as well as F1 is. I've heard
about some speed problems in the PSX NASCAR, particularly in
accidents. Whatever Psygnosis did, I just can't get over how
incredibly fast the code is in F1- to do Monaco with a full grid with
no slowdown- I really can't believe it... Mindblowing!

|       Here's hopin' for a sequel to papyrus' NASCAR for the playstation
|<annual versions would be great!> This game is great...I've been
|playing it steadily since i got it a week ago and I must say this is
|MY favorite game for my Playstation...tons o' fun! I just hope this
|isn't a one time deal! I'd love to see a new version next year with
|either/or improved graphics or full 40 car races. this is not to say
|the graphics aren't good it's just i believe the playstation is
|capable of "cleaner" graphics<ie. track textures> AGAIN I love this
|game and these are in now way gripes..simply things I'd love to see
|added: Ambient sounds...crowd cheers
|            Weather conditions
|       More night races...beauty!
|       Changeable car...I know you can make your own car in the PC version
|but how about a small library of them for the PS version.

|Please papyrus...keep this one on the PS!!And congrats on an
|incredible game!

|JASON

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cheaper than $54.99. Sales can get down to $39.99 locally.>>

www.buyrite1.com has it for $39.99.  It was 49.99 total for 2 day
shipping.

controller? >>

Yes.  Very nice calibration.

so, does NASCAR allow you to do your own calibration of it, or must
you live with their pre-notated calibration of a Mad Catz? >>

Nope.  You can calibrate it however you like.

are flaming it, but I really don't see why. Have they driven through
downtown Monaco?!? So far, every course I've done in the past 2 weeks
has been amazing. >>

Agreed.  F1 is fantastic!

about some speed problems in the PSX NASCAR, particularly in
accidents. >>

Afraid so.  When anything goes on bad on the track, the frame rate drops,
even if the accident isn't in view.  I knew there was something bad
happening elsewhere on the track becuase suddenly the frame rate dropped.
Sure enough...came around and there was a big mess...better than a spotter
<G>

Randy

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| >> One thing that worries me- is there a menu for calibrating an analog
| controller? >>

| Yes.  Very nice calibration.

Well, there you go, I'll buy it then.

| >> I understand NASCAR is prepared for a Mad Catz- but even
| so, does NASCAR allow you to do your own calibration of it, or must
| you live with their pre-notated calibration of a Mad Catz? >>

| Nope.  You can calibrate it however you like.

Great news. I'll have to buy NASCAR now.

And I;ll have to figure out some way to mou t my Mad Catz- I rest it
on my lap now, and by the end of a race, I am one sore SOB. Any tips?

| >> Psygnosis' F1, on the other hand, is a *masterpiece*. I realize people
| are flaming it, but I really don't see why. Have they driven through
| downtown Monaco?!? So far, every course I've done in the past 2 weeks
| has been amazing. >>

| Agreed.  F1 is fantastic!

Just spectacular. I just got finished another 2 hours of racing with
it. Friends of mine are working through Quake; they are all worried
what they will do next when they are done. I, on the other hand, will
be working on these 16 tracks... forever!

| >> I just hope NASCAR for PSX is optimized as well as F1 is. I've heard
| about some speed problems in the PSX NASCAR, particularly in
| accidents. >>

| Afraid so.  When anything goes on bad on the track, the frame rate drops,
| even if the accident isn't in view.  I knew there was something bad
| happening elsewhere on the track becuase suddenly the frame rate dropped.
| Sure enough...came around and there was a big mess...better than a spotter
| <G>

Well, NASCAR was always a bit slow even on PC (in SVGA, at least),
form what I heard. ICR2 was actually faster in certain respects- later
generation program by Papy probably accounts for it. I don't care; I
must have NASCAR, now that I have a platform (PSX) basically fast
enough to handle it.

The big question is, what the hell did Bizarre/Psygnosis do to get F1
so damn fast, and why is no other PSX racer *I've* seen (including
Destruction Derby, IMHO) even close to it? While PSX seems to be just
coming in to "full bloom" in terms of amount and quality of software
coming out for it, in one sense, PSX is the "slow guy", what with N64
and other soon to come... but Bizarre/Psygnosis has showed with F1
that there is still a lot you can do just by optimizing code... I
mean, the speed of the graphics in F1 blow my mind. I hope this means
new programs have to meet their benchmarks, their standard, to be
acceptable to gamers. I really don't need 64 bits if 32 can do what
I'm seeing in F1.

Thanks, Randy!

WHAT ARE THE 2 FANTASY TRACKS LIKE?

One is based in Colorado, the other in California.  I think both are quite
cool.

The Colorado track has the Rocky Mountains in the background, and they are
lush high dark greenish mountains.  The road winds up around some hills
and there is a fair amount of banking.  The other one is in Red Rock and
it also consists of a drive through a sand-stone-like mountain range, with
bowl shaped heavily banked turns around hills.  They aren't ovals, but
they borrow some banking from ovals.  I think both tracks are quite
nice...I wish I had them in the PC version.

Randy