rec.autos.simulators

> So far, I've tried it with GTR and am having some problems getting used
> to it.  So, I've got a few questions for those of you have some
> experience with it.

> 1.  How long does it take to really get used to it?  I find that I
> subconciously try to complete some of my turns by turning my head rather
> than the wheel.  (Sound stupid, I know...)  This is particularly true at
> slow, tight turns like the chicanes at Monza.  I see where I want the
> car to go, and my mind mistakenly tells me that I'm on the racing line
> when I'm really tracking way wide.

> 2.  Is it possible to re-map the F12 default re-center key to something
> else?  Neither my Logi Profiler nor Game Commander "see" the F12 key,
> and reaching for my keyboard to re-center doesn't work well, as my
> "head" isn't facing the optimum direction when doing so.

> 3.  Are you using the default profile with GTR, or another one?  I
> thought that there were other profiles for download for various sims,
> but I can't find them.

> 4.  In racing sims in general, have you disabled the "pitch" (up and
> down) axis.  It seems to me to be worthless (and sometimes annoying) in
> race sims.

> If you have any tips, tweaks, profiles to share, I would appreciate
> them.  From what I've seen so far, it's a neat little gadget, but based
> upon my (rather short) tryout, the jury's still out as to whether it was
> a worthwhile purchase.

> Thanks!

> So far, I've tried it with GTR and am having some problems getting used
> to it.  So, I've got a few questions for those of you have some
> experience with it.

> 1.  How long does it take to really get used to it?  I find that I
> subconciously try to complete some of my turns by turning my head rather
> than the wheel.  (Sound stupid, I know...)  This is particularly true at
> slow, tight turns like the chicanes at Monza.  I see where I want the
> car to go, and my mind mistakenly tells me that I'm on the racing line
> when I'm really tracking way wide.

> 2.  Is it possible to re-map the F12 default re-center key to something
> else?  Neither my Logi Profiler nor Game Commander "see" the F12 key,
> and reaching for my keyboard to re-center doesn't work well, as my
> "head" isn't facing the optimum direction when doing so.

> 3.  Are you using the default profile with GTR, or another one?  I
> thought that there were other profiles for download for various sims,
> but I can't find them.

> 4.  In racing sims in general, have you disabled the "pitch" (up and
> down) axis.  It seems to me to be worthless (and sometimes annoying) in
> race sims.

> If you have any tips, tweaks, profiles to share, I would appreciate
> them.  From what I've seen so far, it's a neat little gadget, but based
> upon my (rather short) tryout, the jury's still out as to whether it was
> a worthwhile purchase.

> Thanks!

>> So far, I've tried it with GTR and am having some problems getting used
>> to it.  So, I've got a few questions for those of you have some
>> experience with it.

>> 1.  How long does it take to really get used to it?  I find that I
>> subconciously try to complete some of my turns by turning my head rather
>> than the wheel.  (Sound stupid, I know...)  This is particularly true at
>> slow, tight turns like the chicanes at Monza.  I see where I want the
>> car to go, and my mind mistakenly tells me that I'm on the racing line
>> when I'm really tracking way wide.

>> 2.  Is it possible to re-map the F12 default re-center key to something
>> else?  Neither my Logi Profiler nor Game Commander "see" the F12 key,
>> and reaching for my keyboard to re-center doesn't work well, as my
>> "head" isn't facing the optimum direction when doing so.

>> 3.  Are you using the default profile with GTR, or another one?  I
>> thought that there were other profiles for download for various sims,
>> but I can't find them.

>> 4.  In racing sims in general, have you disabled the "pitch" (up and
>> down) axis.  It seems to me to be worthless (and sometimes annoying) in
>> race sims.

>> If you have any tips, tweaks, profiles to share, I would appreciate
>> them.  From what I've seen so far, it's a neat little gadget, but based
>> upon my (rather short) tryout, the jury's still out as to whether it was
>> a worthwhile purchase.

>> Thanks!

>>>After reading positive reviews here and on the flight-sim newsgroup, I
>>>decided to order a TrackIRPro3 to use with racing sims such as GTR, GPL,
>>>etc.  (Note: I don't have the vector expansion).

>>>So far, I've tried it with GTR and am having some problems getting used
>>>to it.  So, I've got a few questions for those of you have some
>>>experience with it.

>>>1.  How long does it take to really get used to it?  I find that I
>>>subconciously try to complete some of my turns by turning my head rather
>>>than the wheel.  (Sound stupid, I know...)  This is particularly true at
>>>slow, tight turns like the chicanes at Monza.  I see where I want the
>>>car to go, and my mind mistakenly tells me that I'm on the racing line
>>>when I'm really tracking way wide.

>>>2.  Is it possible to re-map the F12 default re-center key to something
>>>else?  Neither my Logi Profiler nor Game Commander "see" the F12 key,
>>>and reaching for my keyboard to re-center doesn't work well, as my
>>>"head" isn't facing the optimum direction when doing so.

>>>3.  Are you using the default profile with GTR, or another one?  I
>>>thought that there were other profiles for download for various sims,
>>>but I can't find them.

>>>4.  In racing sims in general, have you disabled the "pitch" (up and
>>>down) axis.  It seems to me to be worthless (and sometimes annoying) in
>>>race sims.

>>>If you have any tips, tweaks, profiles to share, I would appreciate
>>>them.  From what I've seen so far, it's a neat little gadget, but based
>>>upon my (rather short) tryout, the jury's still out as to whether it was
>>>a worthwhile purchase.

>>>Thanks!

> Hi Bert, here is my take.

> 1. This is an individual thing but Im still not having as much luck with GTR
> as Im having with Pacific Fighters and Lomac. Im having the same problem
> going wide in the turns and turning my head instead of the wheel ;)

> 2.  Yes, in the profiler under "hotkey" tab.

> 3.  Im using a profile sent from NP and adjusted to my liking.

> 4.  Yes, I ended up turning off the Y Axis in racing sims.

> If I only did racing sims Id feel the same way Bert.  This thing has really
> brought new life to Pacific Fighters for me but like you the jury is still
> out on racing sims.

> Wayne (Naturalpoint) sent me a racing profile that I can send to ya if ya
> want.

> Mitch

>>>>After reading positive reviews here and on the flight-sim newsgroup, I
>>>>decided to order a TrackIRPro3 to use with racing sims such as GTR, GPL,
>>>>etc.  (Note: I don't have the vector expansion).

>>>>So far, I've tried it with GTR and am having some problems getting used
>>>>to it.  So, I've got a few questions for those of you have some
>>>>experience with it.

>>>>1.  How long does it take to really get used to it?  I find that I
>>>>subconciously try to complete some of my turns by turning my head rather
>>>>than the wheel.  (Sound stupid, I know...)  This is particularly true at
>>>>slow, tight turns like the chicanes at Monza.  I see where I want the
>>>>car to go, and my mind mistakenly tells me that I'm on the racing line
>>>>when I'm really tracking way wide.

>>>>2.  Is it possible to re-map the F12 default re-center key to something
>>>>else?  Neither my Logi Profiler nor Game Commander "see" the F12 key,
>>>>and reaching for my keyboard to re-center doesn't work well, as my
>>>>"head" isn't facing the optimum direction when doing so.

>>>>3.  Are you using the default profile with GTR, or another one?  I
>>>>thought that there were other profiles for download for various sims,
>>>>but I can't find them.

>>>>4.  In racing sims in general, have you disabled the "pitch" (up and
>>>>down) axis.  It seems to me to be worthless (and sometimes annoying) in
>>>>race sims.

>>>>If you have any tips, tweaks, profiles to share, I would appreciate
>>>>them.  From what I've seen so far, it's a neat little gadget, but based
>>>>upon my (rather short) tryout, the jury's still out as to whether it was
>>>>a worthwhile purchase.

>>>>Thanks!

>> Hi Bert, here is my take.

>> 1. This is an individual thing but Im still not having as much luck with
>> GTR as Im having with Pacific Fighters and Lomac. Im having the same
>> problem going wide in the turns and turning my head instead of the wheel
>> ;)

>> 2.  Yes, in the profiler under "hotkey" tab.

>> 3.  Im using a profile sent from NP and adjusted to my liking.

>> 4.  Yes, I ended up turning off the Y Axis in racing sims.

>> If I only did racing sims Id feel the same way Bert.  This thing has
>> really brought new life to Pacific Fighters for me but like you the jury
>> is still out on racing sims.

>> Wayne (Naturalpoint) sent me a racing profile that I can send to ya if ya
>> want.

>> Mitch
> Mitch,

> I'm glad to see that I'm not alone in making the adjustment (ie - going
> wide in the turns).  I can't imagine how it must throw you off at first
> in flight sims, since they use more than one axis!  I have a few
> flightsims that I don't get into too deeply.  (I can't aim for s__t.)
> But I'll have to fire one up to see how this thing plays with it.

> Regarding the GTR profile you received from NP -- Yes, please forward it
> to me, if you don't mind.  How do you add a "borrowed" profile to the
> TIR drivers BTW?  I made my own GTR profile which I'm still tweaking.
> Basically, I added significant deadzone and flattened out the
> acceleration curves because the default racing profile was just way too
> sensitive for me.

> Thanks!
> Bert