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Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

John McClare

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by John McClare » Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I currently have a 8 Meg Diamond Monster Voodoo 2.  Due to the recent price
drops I am thinking about buying another one.  How much of an increase in
GPL will I see?  Enough to buy a new one? I can currently race with 15 AI,
have everything turned on and the detail slider in the middle at 800x600.
At the start of the race the lowest fps I get is 20. Will this number
increase by 4 or 5 frames? I would like to race with a full field and
possibly a higher resolution.  Anyone out there have 2 8 meg voodoo 2's?

Please post.

Thanks,
John

David Mocn

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by David Mocn » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00

What PC have you got?... that's what will make the difference.



Slowhan

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by Slowhan » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00

i am using this combo ... but you won't notice an incredible increase
of your framerate :((
if your Processor is running below 300MHz there might be none at all.
maybe above 400MHz there's a noticable increase.
(speaking of fps ... that's all for GPL !! in other games i really have
much more fps with sli vs non sli .... but who really cares about 90fps
instead of 60fps?)
BUT ... just the possibility to run games in 1024x768 is worth the 2nd
Voodoo !
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Knuds

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by Knuds » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Hi,

I have two 12mb V2s, and running GPL at 1024x768 cos its looking so
incredible beautiful:)
Approx. same framerate as 800x600.

Knudse.


> I currently have a 8 Meg Diamond Monster Voodoo 2.  Due to the recent price
> drops I am thinking about buying another one.  How much of an increase in
> GPL will I see?  Enough to buy a new one? I can currently race with 15 AI,
> have everything turned on and the detail slider in the middle at 800x600.
> At the start of the race the lowest fps I get is 20. Will this number
> increase by 4 or 5 frames? I would like to race with a full field and
> possibly a higher resolution.  Anyone out there have 2 8 meg voodoo 2's?

> Please post.

> Thanks,
> John

John

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by John » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00

John

You don't say what your system is but from the figures, I'd guess a
mid-range P2. Essentially, an SLI combo won't help with running a full
field. The problem is one of CPU power to handle the AIs. Where it will help
is in higher resolutions and graphically intense situations. Worth doing? I
have a PII 333 overclocked to 416Mhz and have found SLI worthwhile mainly
because there is no easy/cheap way of upping my CPU power to 500Mhz. If I'd
been able to choose, a 20% increase in processing power would have been a
better compromise. So, SLI because it's relatively cheap and resolves some
problems. You should check out the new reference drivers from 3dfx, worth
10-20% but some people have had problems with them. Also experiment with
"Don't sync buffer swaps . . . " setting - again, 10-20%!

If you want more details, email me.


>I currently have a 8 Meg Diamond Monster Voodoo 2.  Due to the recent price
>drops I am thinking about buying another one.  How much of an increase in
>GPL will I see?  Enough to buy a new one? I can currently race with 15 AI,
>have everything turned on and the detail slider in the middle at 800x600.
>At the start of the race the lowest fps I get is 20. Will this number
>increase by 4 or 5 frames? I would like to race with a full field and
>possibly a higher resolution.  Anyone out there have 2 8 meg voodoo 2's?

>Please post.

>Thanks,
>John

John McClare

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by John McClare » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I forgot to say I have a 266 Celeron overclocked to 400.  From what i have
read so far, the verdict so far is to GO GET ANOTHER ONE.

Thanks,

John

Knuds

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by Knuds » Mon, 26 Oct 1998 03:00:00


> I forgot to say I have a 266 Celeron overclocked to 400.  From what i have
> read so far, the verdict so far is to GO GET ANOTHER ONE.

> Thanks,

> John

CPU ...? 3Dcard? Or ...?
I have a Celery 300 clocking at 464 and two V2s.

Got several pals running different kind of setups,
including PII, Rendition 2200, and other nice hardware.

Wouldn't swop with anything, and Im not kidding ...

Knudse.

If in doubt ... overtake.

.

Jay Z C

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by Jay Z C » Sun, 01 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Just curious if anyone has gotten GPL running with an AMD K6-2 3DNow! CPU
and voodoo2 graphics board. AMD's web site says that the voodoo2 (glide 2.5
and up) supports the special (MMX) instructions of the K6-2. Supposedly
by using this set of instructions, the floating calculations can beat a
pentium II. If someone has this setup, please post some stats for your system
and fps. Thanks

P.S. Pls forward a copy via email to me in case I miss it here.

Jay

Borut Srebotni

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by Borut Srebotni » Sun, 01 Nov 1998 04:00:00

I have K6-2 300 with voodoo2 8 mb. When I'm alone on the track it is smooth
all the way around the tracks. With >10 AI cars it isn't playable ( all
details, no texture in mirrors, only track and cars in mirrors, detail bias
at the middle ). It isn't playable in that sense that it's a VERY noticable
drop in fps. And it is a difference between 30 and 36 fps. I can't drive
nearly as fast as in training. Glide 2,5 doesn't support 3d-now and probably
never will. Glide 3 should support it, but it isn't backwards compatible
with glide 2, so no luck for us AMDers. God damn 3dfx!!! I could kill guys
that make drivers for 3dfx! If you just look at what AMD did for Quake2 with
it's 3d-now optimized Quake2 drivers! Intel is still the best for ***,
love it or hate it!

Borut


>Just curious if anyone has gotten GPL running with an AMD K6-2 3DNow! CPU
>and voodoo2 graphics board. AMD's web site says that the voodoo2 (glide 2.5
>and up) supports the special (MMX) instructions of the K6-2. Supposedly
>by using this set of instructions, the floating calculations can beat a
>pentium II. If someone has this setup, please post some stats for your
system
>and fps. Thanks

>P.S. Pls forward a copy via email to me in case I miss it here.

>Jay

Bob Myer

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by Bob Myer » Mon, 02 Nov 1998 04:00:00


>I have K6-2 300 with voodoo2 8 mb. When I'm alone on the track it is smooth
>all the way around the tracks. With >10 AI cars it isn't playable ( all
>details, no texture in mirrors, only track and cars in mirrors, detail bias
>at the middle ). It isn't playable in that sense that it's a VERY noticable
>drop in fps. And it is a difference between 30 and 36 fps. I can't drive
>nearly as fast as in training. Glide 2,5 doesn't support 3d-now and
probably
>never will. Glide 3 should support it, but it isn't backwards compatible
>with glide 2, so no luck for us AMDers. God damn 3dfx!!! I could kill guys
>that make drivers for 3dfx! If you just look at what AMD did for Quake2
with
>it's 3d-now optimized Quake2 drivers! Intel is still the best for ***,
>love it or hate it!

    Interesting.  I get an 30+ fps just about everywhere except the starting
    line, when it drops to around 20 if I'm at the back of the grid, more
the
    closer I am to the front.  At Monza, during online play, I consistently
    get 36.

    That's with cars/track in mirror, clouds off, detail bias at around 10%,
    19 AI cars.  Oh - and the lighting etc off, too.  (Those top right check
    boxes..)

    The system:  K6-2 300, Epox MVP3 motherboard, 64M 100MHz
    SDRAM, Creative Labs Voodoo2 (8M), Diamond Stealth 3D 4000
    main video, Soundblaster Live.

    The biggest difference I've seen was moving from a AWE64 ISA
    card to the SBLive.  MAJOR difference in steering response (TM
    Nascar Pro.)  And a couple FPS too.  Now to replace my ISA
    EtherNet card with a PCI one, so I can get rid of that bottleneck
    during online play...

    Only real problems I have is dealing with warping online (I host
    from a cable modem) -- I get 'warp hynosis' instead of watching
    my line.  And the SBLive has lost sound a couple times.  VERY
    distracting.   I noticed, btw, that both times it happened I was
    passing a AI-driven Ferrari.

    *shrug*  Systems are different.  But I'd SERIOUSLY suggest
    tuning your BIOS - it may help.

    And I agree Intel is still the way to go.  I should get my PII 450 in
the
    next couple of weeks.

Borut Srebotni

Voodoo 2 SLI and GPL

by Borut Srebotni » Mon, 02 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Move slider to 50-60% and report back, it will probably drop your fps
considerably,

Borut.



>>I have K6-2 300 with voodoo2 8 mb. When I'm alone on the track it is
smooth
>>all the way around the tracks. With >10 AI cars it isn't playable ( all
>>details, no texture in mirrors, only track and cars in mirrors, detail
bias
>>at the middle ). It isn't playable in that sense that it's a VERY
noticable
>>drop in fps. And it is a difference between 30 and 36 fps. I can't drive
>>nearly as fast as in training. Glide 2,5 doesn't support 3d-now and
>probably
>>never will. Glide 3 should support it, but it isn't backwards compatible
>>with glide 2, so no luck for us AMDers. God damn 3dfx!!! I could kill guys
>>that make drivers for 3dfx! If you just look at what AMD did for Quake2
>with
>>it's 3d-now optimized Quake2 drivers! Intel is still the best for ***,
>>love it or hate it!

>    Interesting.  I get an 30+ fps just about everywhere except the
starting
>    line, when it drops to around 20 if I'm at the back of the grid, more
>the
>    closer I am to the front.  At Monza, during online play, I consistently
>    get 36.

>    That's with cars/track in mirror, clouds off, detail bias at around
10%,
>    19 AI cars.  Oh - and the lighting etc off, too.  (Those top right
check
>    boxes..)

>    The system:  K6-2 300, Epox MVP3 motherboard, 64M 100MHz
>    SDRAM, Creative Labs Voodoo2 (8M), Diamond Stealth 3D 4000
>    main video, Soundblaster Live.

>    The biggest difference I've seen was moving from a AWE64 ISA
>    card to the SBLive.  MAJOR difference in steering response (TM
>    Nascar Pro.)  And a couple FPS too.  Now to replace my ISA
>    EtherNet card with a PCI one, so I can get rid of that bottleneck
>    during online play...

>    Only real problems I have is dealing with warping online (I host
>    from a cable modem) -- I get 'warp hynosis' instead of watching
>    my line.  And the SBLive has lost sound a couple times.  VERY
>    distracting.   I noticed, btw, that both times it happened I was
>    passing a AI-driven Ferrari.

>    *shrug*  Systems are different.  But I'd SERIOUSLY suggest
>    tuning your BIOS - it may help.

>    And I agree Intel is still the way to go.  I should get my PII 450 in
>the
>    next couple of weeks.


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