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NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

Don Wilsh

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by Don Wilsh » Wed, 05 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Drivers:

I hope you all understand that NASCAR 2 is not
a WINDOWS 95 program.  NASCAR 2 runs using
DOS/4GW which is  a 32-bit DOS operating system
in protected mode.  

What this means is when you run the program in windows 95
expect the worst and be happy with what you get until they
finally give us the WINDOWS 95 version.

Don Wilshe

In the NASCAR 2 manual it says from PAPYRUS I QUOTE!!!
======================================================

Note: NASCAR 2 Racing 2 is a DOS based game.  If you use
the WINDOWS 95, we recommend that you restart your computer
in MS_DOS mode before playing.  The game will run faster
and have more memory for longer replays in DOS.
========================================================

Papyrus has told us over and over again that you should not
run multiple memory managers in the system like, EMM386
so dont expect and stability in WINDOWS 95.  Dont expect
TOP speeds as well.  I have always run from a DOS BOOT
disk and it has served me well..

Kyle Langst

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by Kyle Langst » Thu, 06 Feb 1997 04:00:00



I run NASCAR 2 in Windows 95.  Are you saying that my track speeds
won't be as fast as someone running N2 in DOS, or are you talking
about the frame rate.

Kyle Langston
_________________________________

http://www.traction.git.net/nrcentral/

Jim Sokolo

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by Jim Sokolo » Fri, 07 Feb 1997 04:00:00





>>Papyrus has told us over and over again that you should not
>>run multiple memory managers in the system like, EMM386
>>so dont expect and stability in WINDOWS 95.  Dont expect
>>TOP speeds as well.  I have always run from a DOS BOOT
>>disk and it has served me well..

>I run NASCAR 2 in Windows 95.  Are you saying that my track speeds
>won't be as fast as someone running N2 in DOS, or are you talking
>about the frame rate.

For a properly configured system not running anything else in the
background, Win95 DOS Box works acceptably IMO. But, Don's right, it's
a DOS game, and if you want to reboot to DOS, (and you have DOS
drivers for all of your cards), the game might run VERY slightly
better...

---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

PS: If it runs fine for you in Win95, stay there...

TOlson94

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by TOlson94 » Fri, 07 Feb 1997 04:00:00

At least it's not a Windows95-only program. I hate it when someone makes a
game which can only be run under Windows 95, when it would be run much
better and faster under DOS (Win95 compatibility should be still there,
though, for people who like to run it under Win95).

Bruce Chandl

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by Bruce Chandl » Fri, 07 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Is it not true that the only way to run TEN is in windows95, so that
will most likely cause more problems trying to run Nascar2 and Ten
under windows95. Please can we get some real answers instead of a
bunch of marketing hype.  







>>>Papyrus has told us over and over again that you should not
>>>run multiple memory managers in the system like, EMM386
>>>so dont expect and stability in WINDOWS 95.  Dont expect
>>>TOP speeds as well.  I have always run from a DOS BOOT
>>>disk and it has served me well..

>>I run NASCAR 2 in Windows 95.  Are you saying that my track speeds
>>won't be as fast as someone running N2 in DOS, or are you talking
>>about the frame rate.

>For a properly configured system not running anything else in the
>background, Win95 DOS Box works acceptably IMO. But, Don's right, it's
>a DOS game, and if you want to reboot to DOS, (and you have DOS
>drivers for all of your cards), the game might run VERY slightly
>better...

>---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

>PS: If it runs fine for you in Win95, stay there...

Eric T. Busc

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by Eric T. Busc » Fri, 07 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Yes, Ten currently uses Win95's dial-up networking and I don't think
there are plans for a DOS version.  As long as you don't have tons of
stuff running in the background, Win95 runs DOS games just fine.  On my
system, there is no noticeable difference between a DOS game run in DOS
or a Win95 DOS box (as little as a fps difference for Quake).  If
you're having trouble with Win95 and random HD access causing pauses in
games, try these two features.

First, to keep the Virtual Cache from filling up all your available
memory, add the following two lines to your system.ini file under the
[VCache] section (add it if it's not there) where the number is about
25% of your RAM:
MinFileCache=4096
MaxFileCache=4096

Secondly, you'll want to have a constant sized swapfile.  To do this,
goto the System Properties (right-click My Computer and choose
Properties),  choose the Performance tab, then select the Virtual
Memory button.  Choose to specify your own settings, and set both Min
and Max to about 2.5 times your actual RAM.  Additionally you can
defrag the swapfile for even better performance (quite easy to do with
multiple HDs).

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David Gar

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by David Gar » Fri, 07 Feb 1997 04:00:00




> >Papyrus has told us over and over again that you should not
> >run multiple memory managers in the system like, EMM386
> >so dont expect and stability in WINDOWS 95.  Dont expect
> >TOP speeds as well.  I have always run from a DOS BOOT
> >disk and it has served me well..

> I run NASCAR 2 in Windows 95.  Are you saying that my track speeds
> won't be as fast as someone running N2 in DOS, or are you talking
> about the frame rate.

> Kyle Langston
> _________________________________

> http://www.traction.git.net/nrcentral/

The framerate. Unfortunately you do get better framerate in DOS(at least
on my system) because Win95 is still using CPU and memory, Does anyone
know of a DOS internet connection program that would enable me to
connect through DOS to run N2-IPX?

-DG-

Don Mullin

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by Don Mullin » Sat, 08 Feb 1997 04:00:00


> Drivers:

> I hope you all understand that NASCAR 2 is not
> a WINDOWS 95 program.  NASCAR 2 runs using
> DOS/4GW which is  a 32-bit DOS operating system
> in protected mode.

> What this means is when you run the program in windows 95
> expect the worst and be happy with what you get until they
> finally give us the WINDOWS 95 version.

> Don Wilshe

> In the NASCAR 2 manual it says from PAPYRUS I QUOTE!!!
> ======================================================

> Note: NASCAR 2 Racing 2 is a DOS based game.  If you use
> the WINDOWS 95, we recommend that you restart your computer
> in MS_DOS mode before playing.  The game will run faster
> and have more memory for longer replays in DOS.
> ========================================================

> Papyrus has told us over and over again that you should not
> run multiple memory managers in the system like, EMM386
> so dont expect and stability in WINDOWS 95.  Dont expect
> TOP speeds as well.  I have always run from a DOS BOOT
> disk and it has served me well..

        Yeah if there was a Win95 only version Nascar2 it would probably crash
as often as Win95 does, and people complain about it crashing now.
--
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GO#2!

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ccorpor

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by ccorpor » Sat, 08 Feb 1997 04:00:00


> Is it not true that the only way to run TEN is in windows95, so that
> will most likely cause more problems trying to run Nascar2 and Ten
> under windows95. Please can we get some real answers instead of a
> bunch of marketing hype.  

REPLY:

The real truth is that N2 runs on most systems very well under win '95. People
need to look at their setup. They put the disclaimers in there so when
somebody call tech support and they say I'm having trouble with N2 and 95 they
can quickly say we don't support '95 and go on to the next caller. Actually it
does run fine under '95 the only thing most would notice would be shorter
replays. This coming from a P133 rendition owner, milage varies with different
systems.

Q.B.M.

brand..

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by brand.. » Sat, 08 Feb 1997 04:00:00

On Thu, 06 Feb 1997 13:03:35 -0500, David Gary


>The framerate. Unfortunately you do get better framerate in DOS(at least
>on my system) because Win95 is still using CPU and memory, Does anyone
>know of a DOS internet connection program that would enable me to
>connect through DOS to run N2-IPX?

>-DG-

You can use Kali for Dos, or Kahn for Dos, both work well, but don't
expect to run the NRO in Dos, TEN requires Win95.
Roy Somer

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by Roy Somer » Sun, 09 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Replays length is set by the amount of ram you have.

SimRaci

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by SimRaci » Mon, 10 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Yes, but system resources have a *** habit of using RAM...

Best Regards,

Marc

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing News - USA
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Robert Johnso

NASCAR 2 isnt a Windows 95 Program

by Robert Johnso » Wed, 12 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Yes, replay length is RAM dependant.  But, if Win95 is loaded, doesn't that
take memory away from N2?  Or does your version of Win95 require no memory?
 So yes, you would see shorter replays on the same system is Win95 is
loaded.




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