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F1 is like arcade game

David Ewin

F1 is like arcade game

by David Ewin » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 02:14:38


> I was under the impression that a lot of those driving aids had been
> outlawed.

> As far as I know, power steering has never been allowed in F1, which is why
> all the drivers have to be extremely fit - those cars generate more G-forces
> than practically any other kind of car.

Neil, power steering has indeed been allowed in Formula One for quite some
time.  It will be abolished beginning in 2002.

Dave Ewing

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Alan Conceic

F1 is like arcade game

by Alan Conceic » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:22:26

I'm not going to flame you. I'm just going to tell you that you're wrong.

Take this past week's race at Atlanta for example. 5 cars racing at the end of
500 miles for the win. When did that last happen in F1?

And cautions every 5 minutes? There were more during the F1 race than at most
Talldega and Daytona WC runs. Again, bias.

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 Alan

Wosc

F1 is like arcade game

by Wosc » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:01:15

This is what I was asking for clarrification on earlier in my first post
when you told me to read YOUR post.  YOU quoted David on the talent pool of
6 billion and then you say you would like to know where the info is to
backup his comment about a 6 billion person talent pool.  My first post was
just wondering what part of his statement you disagree with.  I suggested
that maybe you feel that the world does not have 6 billion people.  In my
second message, I tried to clarrify what I meant by suggesting you might
feel David's statement about a 6 billion person talent pool is false because
all 6 billion people don't have an opportunity to race...But yet you change
the subject and offer that you didn't say anything about 6 billion
people...which is obvious, BUT you quoted him on the 6 billion people and
then said his data was false...so please explain why you feel his 6 billion
person talent pool is incorrect.

I am sorry I had to break it down so much for you.  Hope you understand it.

JB


> I can't believe it? hahahaha The quoted parts is by David F not me!! Jeeez
> Duh.. hahahaha <g> He refers to "6billion folks" not me!!! Hey maybe we
> can get Jackie Chan to race F1. He is apart of the 6 billion {give or
take}.
> Whatcha think? hahahaha... Thom_j.



> | ok here is the quote from your message:
> |
> | <startquote>
> |
> | Btw: I wonder where David F got the 'all-mighty' info that detailed
this?
> | "The
> | best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers" &!! "F1 drivers come
> from
> | a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people." I'd love to hear all the
so
> | called
> | expert info with true backup on these comments! hahahahaha!!
> |
> | <endquote>
> |
> | You quote him twice, once on best drivers in world, the other on f1
> drivers
> | coming from a talent pool of 6 billion people.  But yet then you go to
say
> | you want to know where David got this information, as if you are
> questioning
> | his statement.  So you obviously feel that F1 drivers do not come from a
> | world wide talent pool.  Maybe you can clarify...I took a stab at it
> | thinking maybe you feel there aren't 6 billion people in the world...or
> | maybe you feel that only 1 billion have any remote chance of being
> talented
> | racing a car...or maybe you feel that only a few thousand have the
talent
> | along with the money and all they need is a little luck.  You questioned
> his
> | statement and I took a stab at why...but yet you feel I need brain
> pills...
> |
> | hey maybe you just forgot that you quoted him twice, and then I am
> wondering
> | why you are telling ME to re-read your post.
> |
> | Jesse Black
> |
> |
> |


> | > Well I think you better re-read my reply post below! hahaha I said
> nothing
> | > about "how many" people were in the world! phew!! "I said: I'd love to
> | hear
> | > all the so called expert info with true backup on these comments!"
> Meaning
> | > His comments on: "best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers"
> Soon
> | > I believe I will be selling brain pills here.. hahahaha <vbg>
> | > Cheers Thom_j.
> | > Btw: Jessie I've put 1000s apon 1000s of online & off hrs in Gpl.. Not
> to
> | > even think about all the SBKs, DTRs and much more! You should know
> | > this since I was in your GPL offline league that you tried to
startup!!!
> | So
> | > just keep Smilin' :o)
> | >


> | > | Backup on the comments?  Do you disagree with the population of the
> | world?
> | > | Maybe you want to call it 5 billion?  How many Europeans and Asians
> race
> | > in
> | > | Nascar?  You must admit, the general talent pool for Nascar comes
from
> | the
> | > | US...yet there isn't an American driving in F1...and don't kid
> yourself
> | > and
> | > | say that we aren't trying to get into F1...I hate to bring this
other
> | > point
> | > | up...but foreigners that want to race in the US usually end up in
> CART.
> | I
> | > | have nothing against the skills of Gordon or Stewart or any other
> nascar
> | > | driver, its just that the numbers are against them.  And besides,
how
> | many
> | > | F1 drivers do you see smoking during the race?
> | > |
> | > | JB
> | > |


> | > | > Is this guy ever going to let it go?? phew!!! Talk about beating a
> | dead
> | > | > horse!
> | > | > David F we know you "opinons" about F1 so take a chill pill or
some
> | > prozac
> | > | > will ya? Jeeez...
> | > | > Btw: I wonder where David F got the 'all-mighty' info that
detailed
> | > this?
> | > | > "The
> | > | > best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers" &!! "F1 drivers
> | come
> | > | from
> | > | > a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people." I'd love to hear
all
> | the
> | > so
> | > | > called
> | > | > expert info with true backup on these comments! hahahahaha!! Do
you
> | > think
> | > | > maybe Meir Shetreet will drive F1 next? huh? huh? OMG this is too
> | funny!
> | > | > Cheers Thom_j.
> | > | >


> | > | > <snipped>
> | > | > | > The best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers.
> | > | > | > F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion
> people.
> | > | > <snipped again>
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |

Mark Seer

F1 is like arcade game

by Mark Seer » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 03:09:28


Yep. He was a world champion as well.

MS

Jan Verschuere

F1 is like arcade game

by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:43:35

You managed to lose me, that's for sure.

Jan. ;-)
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Alan Conceic

F1 is like arcade game

by Alan Conceic » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:25:02

NASCAR is an American form of motorsports, just like how our "football" is
pretty much exclusive to the US (ignore the Canadians and NFL Europe, you know
they don't care).

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 Alan

David Er

F1 is like arcade game

by David Er » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:06:19

This, for those of you who can't read , is recs.auto.simulators.  NOT the F1
or NASCAR groups where they go round in endless and pointless drivel about
the respective (and miniscule) differences between each participants
favourite driver. If you want to get into this ***TAKE IT TO THE
APPROPRIATE NEWSGROUP!!
Please restrict your drivel to the proper  "GPL sucks" and "N4 AI blows "
themes when posting in RAS
This has been a public service announcement
David


SNIP A WHOLE PILE OF OT CRAP>

Dave Henri

F1 is like arcade game

by Dave Henri » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:34:07


  uhmmm I have an absolutely GASTLY reply...I won't share it tho....
it does answer your question and it does concern Nikki Lauda but would be in
SUCH POOR TASTE that even I am shocked I thought of it....
dave henrie

Bob Davidso

F1 is like arcade game

by Bob Davidso » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:09:30

I haven't forgotten anything. All I did was point out the fallacy of
using bogus stats such as "talent pool of 6 billion". There's no such
thing.

BD


>Exactly how many foreign drivers are in nascar?  You guys enjoy shooting
>down his stats...which may be a little off, but you forget the context that
>he was using it all in.

>JB





>> >The best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers. Only NASCAR fans
>> >don't believe that (actually they do, they just refuse to admit it).

>> >F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people.

>> Are you including the Chinese in that figure? Exactly how many Chinese
>> F1 drivers are there? :)

>> BD

Garraput

F1 is like arcade game

by Garraput » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 07:18:54

After I posted I began to think I should have worded the question
differently.  I knew there had been drivers from South Africa didn't know
about Rhodesia or Morocco learned something new ,anywho, I was more
interested in their ethnicity.  Are any of those drivers ,to put it less
eloquently, black?






> >> Since DGF mentions F1 has a worldwide talent pool, I've got question,
has
> >> there ever been a native African(s) to drive in F1?
> > dave henrie

> >   I'd be willing to guess that a South African or two has raced F1..

> www.forix.com lists (click "countries" in the "drivers" section in the
main
> page) 2 Moroccan, 4 Rhodesian and 19 South African drivers. One of the
South
> Africans, of course, is a world champion.

> --



> >> Since DGF mentions F1 has a worldwide talent pool, I've got question,
has
> >> there ever been a native African(s) to drive in F1?
> > dave henrie

Thom j

F1 is like arcade game

by Thom j » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:29:50

"O" Come'on Dave share it with us!! Pleazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzze <G>
Thom_j.


<snipped>
|   uhmmm I have an absolutely GASTLY reply...I won't share it tho....
| it does answer your question and it does concern Nikki Lauda but would be
in
| SUCH POOR TASTE that even I am shocked I thought of it....
| dave henrie

Ken Bear

F1 is like arcade game

by Ken Bear » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:31:19

And you, sir, summed it up about as well as it can be.




> > The best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers. Only NASCAR fans
> > don't believe that (actually they do, they just refuse to admit it).

> > F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people.

> Bullshit.  If that were the case then we'd see the field dominated by
Asian
> and Indian drivers, with at least a few blacks as well.  The talent pool
is
> NOT drawn from the entire planet, since the specialized and developed
> driving skills and vehicles necessary are not present in most parts of the
> world.  Just as NASCAR drivers are largely southern with some drivers from
> other areas of the US, F1 is mainly a European endeavor with some Latin
> Americans represented (many of whom have European backgrounds themselves).


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