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F1 is like arcade game

Don Burnett

F1 is like arcade game

by Don Burnett » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:47:52

I knew it. Someone rename this thread to let's bash Nascar fans.
whooeeee.

sheese,

--
Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4

Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.



> The best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers. Only NASCAR fans
> don't believe that (actually they do, they just refuse to admit it).

> F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people.

> NASCAR drivers come from one region (south) of one country. I guess if you
> believe NASCAR drivers are talented, then there must be something really
> special in the water down there.

> NASCAR sims are easy and very boring. Turning left is hardly a great
skill.

> David G Fisher



> > I was just thinking how the real F1 has become like an arcade game.
> Traction
> > control, automatic trans, Do they also have Anti lock brakes?. Pretty
soon
> > They will not even need the drivers and it will finally be the type of
> > racing the engineers want. Maybe in the next F1 game they will options
to
> > turn off all the driving aids.

> > --
> > Kevin Anderson


Don Burnett

F1 is like arcade game

by Don Burnett » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:49:00

Nascar sims easy?

Load up N4 and meet some of us online, we'll show you easy.
:)

--
Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4

Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.



> The best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers. Only NASCAR fans
> don't believe that (actually they do, they just refuse to admit it).

> F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people.

> NASCAR drivers come from one region (south) of one country. I guess if you
> believe NASCAR drivers are talented, then there must be something really
> special in the water down there.

> NASCAR sims are easy and very boring. Turning left is hardly a great
skill.

> David G Fisher



> > I was just thinking how the real F1 has become like an arcade game.
> Traction
> > control, automatic trans, Do they also have Anti lock brakes?. Pretty
soon
> > They will not even need the drivers and it will finally be the type of
> > racing the engineers want. Maybe in the next F1 game they will options
to
> > turn off all the driving aids.

> > --
> > Kevin Anderson


Don Burnett

F1 is like arcade game

by Don Burnett » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:51:20

Ohh Lord, don't mention south and F1 in the same sentence to David G.

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Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4

Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.


>   I'd be willing to guess that a South African or two has raced F1..



> > Since DGF mentions F1 has a worldwide talent pool, I've got question,
has
> > there ever been a native African(s) to drive in F1?
> dave henrie

Don Burnett

F1 is like arcade game

by Don Burnett » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:50:13

No it didn't, but I saw that one coming a mile away.

--

Donald M. Burnette
yes, I have a middle initial too motorsports.

.


> I didn't hear anyone compare to Nascar,  My posted stated that F1 has
taken
> the driver out of the equation. May as well have the engineers up there
with
> the Champagne after they win a race.

> --
> Kevin Anderson



> > The best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers. Only NASCAR fans
> > don't believe that (actually they do, they just refuse to admit it).

> > F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people.

> > NASCAR drivers come from one region (south) of one country. I guess if
you
> > believe NASCAR drivers are talented, then there must be something really
> > special in the water down there.

> > NASCAR sims are easy and very boring. Turning left is hardly a great
> skill.

> > David G Fisher



> > > I was just thinking how the real F1 has become like an arcade game.
> > Traction
> > > control, automatic trans, Do they also have Anti lock brakes?. Pretty
> soon
> > > They will not even need the drivers and it will finally be the type of
> > > racing the engineers want. Maybe in the next F1 game they will options
> to
> > > turn off all the driving aids.

> > > --
> > > Kevin Anderson


Alan Conceic

F1 is like arcade game

by Alan Conceic » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:55:37

Hell, what about India and China? They together make up 1/3 of the world's
population.

-
 Alan

J. Janaso

F1 is like arcade game

by J. Janaso » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:59:05

I guess living in N. Georgia is the reason why I suck so bad at Darlington?

J. Janasov


> This ought to be an interesting thread.
> :)

> --
> Don Burnette
> D Burnette in N4

> Some people do nothing wrong.
> The problem is, they do nothing.
> And THAT is wrong.



> > I was just thinking how the real F1 has become like an arcade game.
> Traction
> > control, automatic trans, Do they also have Anti lock brakes?. Pretty
soon
> > They will not even need the drivers and it will finally be the type of
> > racing the engineers want. Maybe in the next F1 game they will options
to
> > turn off all the driving aids.

> > --
> > Kevin Anderson


Me, Myself and Ra

F1 is like arcade game

by Me, Myself and Ra » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:04:16



Maybe they are, but their cars are easy to drive!!!!!!!

> F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people.

> NASCAR drivers come from one region (south) of one country. I guess if you
> believe NASCAR drivers are talented, then there must be something really
> special in the water down there.

> NASCAR sims are easy and very boring. Turning left is hardly a great
skill.

> David G Fisher



> > I was just thinking how the real F1 has become like an arcade game.
> Traction
> > control, automatic trans, Do they also have Anti lock brakes?. Pretty
soon
> > They will not even need the drivers and it will finally be the type of
> > racing the engineers want. Maybe in the next F1 game they will options
to
> > turn off all the driving aids.

> > --
> > Kevin Anderson


Me, Myself and Ra

F1 is like arcade game

by Me, Myself and Ra » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:06:01

I thought it was more like 1/2.


Don Burnett

F1 is like arcade game

by Don Burnett » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:14:48

Lol, no, it just means you can't drive F1, we're too redneck and dumb.

--
Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4

Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.


> I guess living in N. Georgia is the reason why I suck so bad at
Darlington?

> J. Janasov



> > This ought to be an interesting thread.
> > :)

> > --
> > Don Burnette
> > D Burnette in N4

> > Some people do nothing wrong.
> > The problem is, they do nothing.
> > And THAT is wrong.



> > > I was just thinking how the real F1 has become like an arcade game.
> > Traction
> > > control, automatic trans, Do they also have Anti lock brakes?. Pretty
> soon
> > > They will not even need the drivers and it will finally be the type of
> > > racing the engineers want. Maybe in the next F1 game they will options
> to
> > > turn off all the driving aids.

> > > --
> > > Kevin Anderson


Glenn Campbel

F1 is like arcade game

by Glenn Campbel » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:22:13

I guess I'll say it again...

Difference of opinion makes a market.

--
"It's easy to criticize from outside the***pit".
-Murray Walker, 1993 Australian G.P.

Don Burnett

F1 is like arcade game

by Don Burnett » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:52:51

Your stereotyping all of us N4 drivers by the actions of 1 or 2? Do you
think that's right?
Get in a decent league with a good group of drivers, run nose to tail and
side by side for about 150 laps, then come back and tell us how easy it is.
One thing I love about racing Nascar - no matter how good you think you
might be, there'll always be better.
Interestingly, I find racing on road courses where the cars get scattered
out much easier than on ovals with a good group of drivers. I don't want to
just race the track, I want to race the competitors. I don't dislike road
courses, or F1, or Cart - heck, I still have GPL on my machine and love it.
But for sweat on the eyebrow racing, Nascar is where it's at for me. I get a
rush during and after running those races like no other.
And btw, whatever league allowed what happened below is not much of a
league. There are several good ones out there.

--
Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4

Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.


> I did the other week...jumped in a fixed setup race with a league...they
> were going to try me out.  I ended up on the pole at Atlanta and then was
> running well until a rail rider took me out.  This was in a passworded
> league race.  It is really sad.  I was told later that the rail rider was
> last years champion and that he was "just playing around"...N4 IS
> easy...unless you take the car to a road course.  Maybe ovals are harder
for
> some, but I find them easy to master.  Oh yeah, in the post race meeting,
I
> was called a "***"...I am assuming because my last name is Black.  You
N4
> drivers aren't impressing me at all

> JB



> > Nascar sims easy?

> > Load up N4 and meet some of us online, we'll show you easy.
> > :)

> > --
> > Don Burnette
> > D Burnette in N4

> > Some people do nothing wrong.
> > The problem is, they do nothing.
> > And THAT is wrong.



> > > The best race car drivers in the world are F1 drivers. Only NASCAR
fans
> > > don't believe that (actually they do, they just refuse to admit it).

> > > F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people.

> > > NASCAR drivers come from one region (south) of one country. I guess if
> you
> > > believe NASCAR drivers are talented, then there must be something
really
> > > special in the water down there.

> > > NASCAR sims are easy and very boring. Turning left is hardly a great
> > skill.

> > > David G Fisher



> > > > I was just thinking how the real F1 has become like an arcade game.
> > > Traction
> > > > control, automatic trans, Do they also have Anti lock brakes?.
Pretty
> > soon
> > > > They will not even need the drivers and it will finally be the type
of
> > > > racing the engineers want. Maybe in the next F1 game they will
options
> > to
> > > > turn off all the driving aids.

> > > > --
> > > > Kevin Anderson


Jeff Vince

F1 is like arcade game

by Jeff Vince » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:25:50



David,

   You aren't related to Dale Carnegie, are you?  :)

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Gaul

F1 is like arcade game

by Gaul » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:10:38



Bullshit.  If that were the case then we'd see the field dominated by Asian
and Indian drivers, with at least a few blacks as well.  The talent pool is
NOT drawn from the entire planet, since the specialized and developed
driving skills and vehicles necessary are not present in most parts of the
world.  Just as NASCAR drivers are largely southern with some drivers from
other areas of the US, F1 is mainly a European endeavor with some Latin
Americans represented (many of whom have European backgrounds themselves).

Alan Orto

F1 is like arcade game

by Alan Orto » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:04:00

I said " I THINK some teams..." I didn't say they were using ABS, but
wouldn't be surprised if they did.
I also didn't say the car were easy to drive but rather said "I'll bet
it is" I didn't once say they were easy to drive. I was speculating!

I am probably wrong, but I could be right. It is a opinion.



> >> Why do you think 'some teams are using a form of ABS'? If you ever watched
> >> a race you'd see brake lockups all the time. Which teams? 'Form of ABS'?

> >> Sounds like you're talking crap, Alan.

> >> -Nick

> > Well some teams were using launch control until they were found out.

> > So you're 100% sure there's no cheating going on now then??

> > Cheers

> > Gerry

> Where did I say that?

> I'm simply pointing out that Alan is making accusations
> based on no evidence or experience.

> -Nick

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big..

F1 is like arcade game

by big.. » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:39:15


>> Why do you think 'some teams are using a form of ABS'? If you ever watched
>> a race you'd see brake lockups all the time. Which teams? 'Form of ABS'?

>> Sounds like you're talking crap, Alan.

>> -Nick
> Well some teams were using launch control until they were found out.
> So you're 100% sure there's no cheating going on now then??
> Cheers
> Gerry

Where did I say that?

I'm simply pointing out that Alan is making accusations
based on no evidence or experience.

-Nick


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