Ya know Tom frig isn't a word... We know what youre trying to say so why
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> Lee...
> I didn't single you out, you did that. I also didn't even look to see who
I
> may have tangled with.....lapping or not. It wasn't important to me and I
> wasn't mad about it.
> I simply made a reply to John Simmons when he asked about uploading my
> painted car....."not to bother" taking up a car number-slot with my car,
> since I wouldn't be racing in RASCAR events if they continued to be "open"
> races. Then...you guys read something into that that's not there.....and
> that pissed me off.
> If you guys think that I don't have the right to choose who I want to
> friggin' race with....then you can go frig yourselves!
> Novice races are generally restricted to novices. Duh! If that were not
> the case, then NASCAR wouldn't have "Dash" cars.....CART wouldn't have the
> Toyota Atlantic series....etc. I don't give a two inch crap if RASCAR
wants
> to run "novice" races.......that's fine with me. I don't want to
> participate in them if they are on Saturday afternoons.
> Lee....racing is a rare sport where your mistakes are often paid for by
your
> competitors (kind of like golf...where you hit your ball out of bounds and
> the two-stroke penalty is added to your opponents score card! How many
> experienced golfers would play important rounds of golf with beginners if
> that were the rules of golf........do you think?). That is why novices
are
> generally not allowed in races with experienced drivers. That's why you
> need a "pro" racing license in every pro racing series on the planet,
> practically since the beginning of time........before you can even enter
the
> races. Lee, if you are a novice....go get your racing experience the same
> way the rest of us did. Practice, run in novice races and learn when and
> where you can. Lee, if you think an experienced sim driver is "required"
to
> race with you....because you are a novice driver....then you are dead
wrong,
> man! Some experienced drivers are not very good at teaching
others....some
> just don't choose to do it......some do it often. I don't mind running
with
> and passing on what I know to novice drivers. Those who know me well see
me
> doing it regularly. But, I don't choose to do it on Saturday afternoons.
> Why do you have a problem with that? I simply don't understand, I guess.
> I don't want to run in novice races on Saturday! Got it! If you friggin'
> cry babies want to get your diapers kinked because of that.....its your
> problem!
> Run the RASCAR races during the week nights...and I'd probably make
several
> more races......knowing up front that they are novice races!
> And Frances....I'm not going to even comment on your little quips.
Because,
> I think you are just "pouring gasoline" for a little self-entertainment
> anyway.....that seems to be your bag lately.
> TP
> "lee.ward1" <lee.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> > And where do you suggest we learn all the skills you quite rightly say a
> > race driver should. Surely that's one of the points of RASCAR for
> beginners
> > like me. I assume that I am one of those who the critisism is aimed at
as
> we
> > collided when you were trying to lap me.
> > I'm sorry that that happened. It was not intended and I have learnt by
my
> > mistake. However, I suppose under your scheme, I would never be invited
> > back.
> > If beginners can only race with beginners how do we learn
> > Lee
> > "Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:xTx59.63913$nF5.15264@sccrnsc02...
> > > Jan...
> > > I'm not trying to be a smartass....but do you think perhaps we might
> have
> > > different "standards" of what we consider "mistakes?"
> > > At least a third of the field in yesterday's RASCAR-WG race should not
> > have
> > > been in that race (or any online race at WG - IMHO). They couldn't
> > control
> > > their cars well enough to stay on track for more than a lap or
> two....some
> > > weren't that good (look at the penalties list...for how many "cuts" of
> the
> > > IL were handed out....I haven't seen that many penalties for that
> > infraction
> > > since the last "pickup" race I ran at WG on
> > > Sierra.com.....lol........funny...but really not so funny). A
"mistake"
> > (on
> > > a road course) is missing an apex or braking point by a foot or
> two.....or
> > > maybe failing to adjust a braking point up track as the tires
> transition,
> > > resulting in a dropped wheel into the grass and a 1/2 second added to
> the
> > > lap time. I'm not going to hammer this issue.......I think the point
is
> > > made. I would have enjoyed racing the guys in the top-10,
unfortunately
> > the
> > > quality of the rest of the drivers prevented that. Its is my opinion
> that
> > > this will continue as long as the RASCAR events fail to distinguish
> > between
> > > the wide disparity of racing experience that exists among visitors to
> > > r.a.s. The fact that you can sign on to a newsgroup, make a
> > > post....doesn't/shouldn't automatically give you a "ticket" into an
> online
> > > race in N2K2. As it stands, the RASCAR events (IMHO) will continue to
> be
> > > nothing more than pickup races on Sierra.com......and I can do that
24/7
> > > without having to dedicate a window of valuable time on my weekends.
> > > Unless you guys decide to run "invitation only" RASCAR races, or maybe
> > even
> > > hold "experienced" and "beginners" races separately.....I won't be
> running
> > > with you again. As I said at the top, I'm not trying to be a smartass
> > about
> > > this. But, I've earned the right to choose who I want to race
> > > with/against.....with thousands of hours of practice and race
> experience.
> > > If I choose not to race with beginners....I don't think that should
> > > automatically put them down or anything like that. I was a beginner
> once,
> > > too. And at fully more than a third of the N2K2 tracks.......I still
am
> a
> > > beginner. But, I respect racing and the other competitors on the
track
> > with
> > > me enough not to enter races where I'll be nothing more than a moving
> > > chicane, unable to do much more than stay on the track for a lap or
two,
> > > unable to run competitive laps AND watch my mirrors, AND maintain
> complete
> > > "race situational awareness" AND hold my line when lapped....etc.,
etc.
> > My
> > > "hat is off" to those guys who qualified in the top-10
> yesterday......and
> > > those who had enough good judgment about their racing abilities and
> > > experience at WG-N2K2.......not to have entered the RASCAR race
> yesterday.
> > > And, ultimately - I don't think anyone really gives a rats-ass whether
I
> > run
> > > in the RASCAR events or not. The way you guys are running these
events
> as
> > > of now, my choice is "not." And, that's a decision I have a right to
> > make.
> > > If someone gets offended by that......then that's their problem, not
> mine.
> > > I have a strong suspicion that I am not the only one who has this
> opinion
> > of
> > > the RASCAR events.....as they've been so far. But, that's really not
> even
> > > important in the long run.
> > > Regards,
> > > Tom
> > > "Jan Verschueren" <jan.NO_SPAM.verschue...@pandora.be> wrote in
message
> > > news:mUw59.59990$8o4.7952@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> > > > "Tom Pabst" wrote...
> > > > > I did.....yesterday morning....about 9:30 am (Pacific).
> > > > > However, unless you guys switch to "invitation only" races,
> > > > > I won't be racing with you again.
> > > > My replay is inconclusive as to your tribulations in the race...
what
> > was
> > > > the problem?
> > > > Haven't looked at anything and everything in this race, but on the
> whole
> > > > things went well, IMO. You can't expect people to not make mistakes
in
> > > > online races. Not in such open nature races as these, anyway.
> > > > Jan.
> > > > =---