what, 'k? ;-)
Jan.
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Jan.
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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> I think this analogy is even better : (please note that <cough> it has no
> relation with my experience of the movie last year.. eh)
> Let's say that you are a incredible big fan of Star Wars. You awaited
> an incredible amount of years for the next installment of the saga. You
> drooled at all the information you could get before the movie. You
visited
> websites for years to see any little tidbit about the movie. Now a week
> before the opening of the movie, somebody in a dark alley comes to you and
> say "Do you want to see Star Wars a week before everybody else? I know how
> to sneak behind the complex and enter for free for the premiere". Of
> course, the temptation is hard to resist. You know you will go see Star
> Wars an incredible amount of time during the summer, so it won't change a
> thing for Lucas's pocket. You even have tickets for the first screening
> during the official release of the movie. What a dilemma you have. What
do
> you do? ;)
> Now replace the situation with "Gp3" and you have the perfect example of
> what's going to happen. Of course, people here won't admit that they
would
> accept a ticket to see the movie before!
Whether you believe it or not though I think that if somebody you know
produces quality material is releasing a new game/film.... I think its only
right to support them.
Perhaps if its some lamo kiddie movie/kiddie game that you wouldn't buy
anyway you might take the back door but its a bit pointless taking a warez
copy of something like GP3, only to see that everyone else has done it, GP3
sells poorly and bye bye GP4 and 5..... even if there is a GP4 and 5 and the
income is low, its not much incentive to produce a quality product again as
it seems nobody really ant it,
In fact they do,...... they just wouldn't have the decency to show tier
approval to you.
We don't know Geoff Crammond, in a way our thanks and request for a GP4
comes from buying GP3.
Look at GPL, that sold poorly and now we aren't getting a GPL2.
Yeah, but there were no 3d cards in those days...
Most of the reason gp2 was slow was down to the graphics,
I cant even get a decent framerate in svga mode 4 years later!
Enough people will buy GP3 on the strenght of the Crammond name alone.
Furthermore, 95% of those sheep won't have the guts to come out and say it's
terrible, even if it is. There is nothing in this world which can prevent
GP3 becoming a commercial success. Personally, I'm very sceptic about the
title, but I soon found out even on RAS there's just a few who think alike.
The GPL analogy holds no water. The subjectmatter appeals to far fewer
people than modern F1 and the game lacks scalability which makes it
impossible to be enjoyed by the "casual" racers of this world. What matters
is we got GPL and certain talented people have taken matters into their own
hands as to keeping it going for some time to come.
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There are also people (myself included) who bought GPL on the strength on
Papy's name alone. What's the difference - I guess we're sheep, too?
Eldred
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>We don't know Geoff Crammond, in a way our thanks and request for a GP4
>comes from buying GP3.
>Look at GPL, that sold poorly and now we aren't getting a GPL2.
Eldred
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>If GP3 runs as bad on my system as GP2 did when it was released (and I had a
>high performance PC then!) Mr Crammond and friend won't get any money from
>me!
>Playability is ESSENTIAL.
>Graphics are fun.
I guess the graphics WERE more important to you after all? Your philosophy is
obviously that you pay for the graphics and get the playability as a bonus or
something? :-)
Oh well...
JoH
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People who inform themselves via specialist media, web and usenet will be
the minority of the total number of people buying GP3. My guess is at least
80% of sales will come via ads in lifestyle magazines/TV and from displays
in mainstream stores.
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I guess you checked it on the the Pentium 166 available in those days?
OF COURSE GP2 can run with all graphic detail on a P3-600.
But still... only just.
Just like I did. But GP2 look awful then. ICR2 was ten times better.
My point always was: Geoff made a game that produced stunning screenshots,
but NO ONE at the time was able to play the game with a graphic level that
came close to the screenshots ...
Isn't that misleading?
That's the purpose of all the PREVIEWS: plain advertising that has NOTHING
to do with the real quality of the product.
It's just about creating a hype.
I actually bought Official copies of many racing sims:
Indycar 2
GP2
Nascar 2
GPL
SCGT
TOCA 2
My God I even bought a PC because GP2 was coming...
only to find out that my 'high performance PC' was much to slow for the
game.
So Geoff Crammond owes me one, thats how I feel...
If thats NOT ok with you... I don't give a ****
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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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In-store promotion (static display as well as running demo) plays an
ENORMOUS part in the sale of a game and if magazine reviews have been
favourable then the game sells very well (applies to all platforms).
Usenet comments have an insignificant effect on sales and, when brought into
play, only ever concern those who are fanatics and know the subject of their
passion inside-out! (I refer specifically to flight-simmers and RPGers)
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Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Exactly.
Andre
>> Since GP3 is going to be going gold at the end of this month (thats june
>and
>> thats not a rumor but a fact). I wouldnt be surprise if a warez copy came
>> out soon after. I am wonder if anyone will try to get it so they can try
>> the game out ahead of time. If you get are you going to buy the game our
>> keep the game. I'm going to buy the game, just wondering about you other
>> guys.
>> T0NT0
When I read about GPL for the first time, I thought it would be just
another racing game, with the 'old cars' just as a gimmick.
I tried the demo which was on the cd from a games magazine, and the
demo didn't work. I didn't try to get it to work, since it didn't look
like it was worth the trouble.
A couple of months later the warez version came out. Mostly out of
boredom I downloaded it, to see if the full version would work.
It worked immediately, and I was amazed... didn't have a wheel at that
time, didn't know a thing about car physics, but I immediately saw
that this was something very special...
I called my friends to tell them about GPL. They were surprised too,
they also didn't think it would be interesting.
Bought a wheel just for this game, and I was hooked...
I went to the shop to buy it, but it was not yet released here in
Holland. On the day it came out I bought it.
If it wasn't for the warez version, I probably would have completely
missed out on GPL. Warez versions make me spend money on games that
are worth the money (RC2000, SCGT), and to save my money from games
that were complete ***(SOS, LeMans).
GP3? As soon as the warez version comes out, it will be on my HD. Big
chances that I will like it and that I will buy it after that. Most
importantly for me is that the game should run with a decent fps on my
PII450. GP2 was not playable in SVGA mode, which was allready a
standard at that time. I had to run it in VGA mode, which looked
really outdated at that time. If I rememeber correctly I had a P133 at
that time, a quite fast computer when GP2 came out.
Add the slomo problems to that, and I still deeply regret that I
bought GP2...
Andre
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Wow, I'm astounded by that comment....I have quite a few regrets regarding
software purchases I have made over the years, but GP2 is certainly not one
of them. It still sits on my hdd after some 5 or so years and with all the
3rd party addons available I will still be playing it for some time
yet...well at least the few weeks....Roll on GP3 !
Cheers Phil