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Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

Greg Cisk

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th time you posted this? You are
becoming as annoying as I am with your spamming :-)

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Alan

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Alan » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

If you look at the 'modified' date for the data files in the circuits
directory, They all state (in my copy at least) 16/07/00

If the game went gold on the 13/07/00 then how/why were the circuits
modified 3 days later, the answer?:

  Class 'touched' or modified the files (Touch is a utility to change
file modified dates).

Now why would the piratez need to modify the circuit data? Surely not
for anti-warez protection?

Now look at the modified dates for the jams, the majority (but not all)
are for 03/07/00
and all dates/times differ  only by a matter of minutes. and 2 Jam files
have 14/07/00 file mod date (suzgras1.jam & suzedge1.jam)
again 1 day after going gold.

My opinion, and thats all this is, is that the piratez***ed up and
didn't set the clock correctly when modifying the circuit file dates,
and the reason they modified these files because there age probably gave
away there true age.

Funny how the readme also is modified 17/07/00, covering tracks again?

BTW, to the ppl that think that the Version 1.00 in the about screen is
full proof of warez=final then go find out abouit Adobe premiere 5.5

It doesn't exsist outside piracy, yet suckers who got it from warez
sites tell everyone that proof that its 'official' is the fact that the
splash screen, about box, readme and even the help file ALL state ver
5.5, yet you won't find a single word about 5.5 at adobe.

Of course we'll all know on friday.

Alan

Alan

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Alan » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Erm..Got me mixed up with someone else methinks,Do a search a deja if
you have to, but I think you will find that this has been my first and
ONLY EVER post to r.a.s.

If this point has been covered before by someone else, what was the
summary as to ppl's feelings about the file dates?

Alan.


> Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th time you posted this? You are
> becoming as annoying as I am with your spamming :-)

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> > If you look at the 'modified' date for the data files in the circuits
> > directory, They all state (in my copy at least) 16/07/00

> > If the game went gold on the 13/07/00 then how/why were the circuits
> > modified 3 days later, the answer?:

> >   Class 'touched' or modified the files (Touch is a utility to change
> > file modified dates).

> > Now why would the piratez need to modify the circuit data? Surely not
> > for anti-warez protection?

> > Now look at the modified dates for the jams, the majority (but not all)
> > are for 03/07/00
> > and all dates/times differ  only by a matter of minutes. and 2 Jam files
> > have 14/07/00 file mod date (suzgras1.jam & suzedge1.jam)
> > again 1 day after going gold.

> > My opinion, and thats all this is, is that the piratez***ed up and
> > didn't set the clock correctly when modifying the circuit file dates,
> > and the reason they modified these files because there age probably gave
> > away there true age.

> > Funny how the readme also is modified 17/07/00, covering tracks again?

> > BTW, to the ppl that think that the Version 1.00 in the about screen is
> > full proof of warez=final then go find out abouit Adobe premiere 5.5

> > It doesn't exsist outside piracy, yet suckers who got it from warez
> > sites tell everyone that proof that its 'official' is the fact that the
> > splash screen, about box, readme and even the help file ALL state ver
> > 5.5, yet you won't find a single word about 5.5 at adobe.

> > Of course we'll all know on friday.

> > Alan

Colin Harri

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Colin Harri » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Not that I have it, of course, but a mate of mine at BHMS got his retail
copy today: The warez version's the release versin.

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Intimidato

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Intimidato » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Although I really, really, REALLY hope that the realease version of
GP3 is much better than the warez release, I think people are deluding
themselves if they think the "final" will be any kind of sunstantial
improvement over this.  

Jan Loebzie

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Jan Loebzie » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00



The summary is that should the "final" indeed be different,
lots of people will simply download it again on Friday.

MichaelJ

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by MichaelJ » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

<lot of warez speak snipped>

Whatever.

Games are pretty much locked down once they go beta. Only bugfixes and
minor stuff go in after then.

- Michael

Xena

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Xena » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00





>>If this point has been covered before by someone else, what was the
>>summary as to ppl's feelings about the file dates?

>The summary is that should the "final" indeed be different,
>lots of people will simply download it again on Friday.

  And wasted download it will be...there will be no magical change
 in the copies people have now than Friday:)
Andre Warrin

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Andre Warrin » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00


><lot of warez speak snipped>

>Whatever.

>Games are pretty much locked down once they go beta. Only bugfixes and
>minor stuff go in after then.

>- Michael

Yep. I downloaded the ISO, it's exactly the same as the warez version.

Andre

Simon Brow

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Simon Brow » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Either way, whether it's the final or not, if you are expecting massive
changes for the full release, you are most likely only setting yourself up
for dissapointment.
Greg Cisk

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Greg Cisk » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00


The final verdict will be that this warez version is indeed
the version everyone will find in the box.

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Rich

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Rich » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:23:34 GMT, "Simon Brown"


>Either way, whether it's the final or not, if you are expecting massive
>changes for the full release, you are most likely only setting yourself up
>for dissapointment.

f1-2000 was quite an impovement on the beta  i remember tho..

Rich

Alan

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Alan » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Wrong, No disappointment coming here, I'm already happy with it,

You see I wasn't party to the hype, only really subbed to r.a.s. to see
other opinions and get urls for mods etc. ( I wanna see my Willams in
Compaq white damnit! not red!)

It runs a dream on my PIII 650 at 1024/768 res.
No bugs encountered yet, (2 40 lap races completed)

Took some configuration to get rid of the 'on rails' feeling, but as
soon as I reduced 'steering help to 0%' & upped the lock to 20 Deg. in
Controller setup (*not* the driving aid! - Makes a HUGE diff. IMHO) and
got my Ferrari FF working.

It may not be GPL, but then I have too much of a Real Life to get on
with to take *** that seriously.

My major gripe though, getting round the track with 3 wheels and then
pitting for 10.2 secs and having all damage repaired, This I think
proves that GP3 is a sim only in the marketing depts sense of the word.

Neat driving GAME though.

Alan


> Either way, whether it's the final or not, if you are expecting massive
> changes for the full release, you are most likely only setting yourself up
> for dissapointment.

Man O' Silve

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Man O' Silve » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Alan, he didn't say that nobody would like it. What he said was that if you
were currently not happy with the warez version and are expecting the final
version to be much better, you will not be pleased. However, lots of people
do enjoy the warez version and will continue to like the final version.

--
Man O' Silver


> Wrong, No disappointment coming here, I'm already happy with it,

> You see I wasn't party to the hype, only really subbed to r.a.s. to see
> other opinions and get urls for mods etc. ( I wanna see my Willams in
> Compaq white damnit! not red!)

> It runs a dream on my PIII 650 at 1024/768 res.
> No bugs encountered yet, (2 40 lap races completed)

> Took some configuration to get rid of the 'on rails' feeling, but as
> soon as I reduced 'steering help to 0%' & upped the lock to 20 Deg. in
> Controller setup (*not* the driving aid! - Makes a HUGE diff. IMHO) and
> got my Ferrari FF working.

> It may not be GPL, but then I have too much of a Real Life to get on
> with to take *** that seriously.

> My major gripe though, getting round the track with 3 wheels and then
> pitting for 10.2 secs and having all damage repaired, This I think
> proves that GP3 is a sim only in the marketing depts sense of the word.

> Neat driving GAME though.

> Alan

> > Either way, whether it's the final or not, if you are expecting massive
> > changes for the full release, you are most likely only setting yourself
up
> > for dissapointment.

Michael E. Carve

Proof of warez GP3 *NOT* Final Gold?

by Michael E. Carve » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00


% f1-2000 was quite an impovement on the beta  i remember tho..

Actually I think the warez was an alpha and the release was a beta (and
still is in beta stage).....

They may have called it "beta" but it acted like a "alpha" and while they
say the released copy is an omega..... it's a long way from that...

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