>Rats, your listed in time. I record by speed :)
>I guess I'll have to change that.
>-Larry
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>I guess I'll have to change that.
>-Larry
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>I'm talking about the final corner before the straight. The flat one. The
>one with all the wrecked race cars piled up behind the wall :)
>You have to brake at marker 2 at this corner.
>-Larry
Actually I have a pretty good rythm for turn 3, there is a red part of
the wall right before the markers. As soon as I pass that I count 1,
2 then brake. By the way if you are going to pass someone here on the
inside, be prepaired to get on the brakes hard, it does'nt take much
to drift up into someone in the corner. Besides the guy on the
outside will either let you go or will over drive the turn if he trys
to stay with you through the turn.
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In real life Qual speeds are a lot faster than race speeds because the
Cup guys have a lot more tweaks/know how when setting up a car for
qualifying than we have in N2002. Even though there is a one engine
rule I believe teams are still tuning the engine differently for
qualifying and for the race so they still get a little more HP for a
qual run. In N2002 are qual setups are not going to be so dramtically
faster than our race setups, so drafting is even a bigger part of lap
times in N2002. A lot of times I can turn a faster race lap after
tires have heated up and I am behind someone during a race than I can
ever turn in Qualifying.
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>I forget if RASCAR uses random weather or not, but.
>At 70 degrees no wind I'd aim for 54.9-55.1 range. 55.5's and faster
>should be competitive, but the front runners will likely be pulling
>55.0's until the tires turn yellow, in my experience.
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>> BTW... The fast setup for this track needs serious work.
>It's pointless to complain about the setup. What is a good setup for
>one person is a crappy one for someone else. IMHO, if a given driver
>isn't comfortable with the setup, he can always sit the race out. There
>is no shame in that.
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Replay here:
http://www30.brinkster.com/imola/pocono.htm :-)
(but I probably won't race at saturday...)
/Carl
> >On the other hand, the superspeedways are drafting tracks. There is no
way
> >you can qualify as fast as when you draft.
> >On all other tracks, you will be faster in qualify, since you can use
100%
> >grille tape, and the draft isn't really needed because of the lower top
> >speed combined with an unrestricted engine.
> Not at Pocono. Drafting is big at Pocono.
> In real life Qual speeds are a lot faster than race speeds because the
> Cup guys have a lot more tweaks/know how when setting up a car for
> qualifying than we have in N2002. Even though there is a one engine
> rule I believe teams are still tuning the engine differently for
> qualifying and for the race so they still get a little more HP for a
> qual run. In N2002 are qual setups are not going to be so dramtically
> faster than our race setups, so drafting is even a bigger part of lap
> times in N2002. A lot of times I can turn a faster race lap after
> tires have heated up and I am behind someone during a race than I can
> ever turn in Qualifying.
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> Replay here:
> http://www30.brinkster.com/imola/pocono.htm :-)
> (but I probably won't race at saturday...)
> /Carl
> > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:20:22 +0200, "Carl Ribbegaardh"
> > >On the other hand, the superspeedways are drafting tracks. There is no
> way
> > >you can qualify as fast as when you draft.
> > >On all other tracks, you will be faster in qualify, since you can use
> 100%
> > >grille tape, and the draft isn't really needed because of the lower top
> > >speed combined with an unrestricted engine.
> > Not at Pocono. Drafting is big at Pocono.
> > In real life Qual speeds are a lot faster than race speeds because the
> > Cup guys have a lot more tweaks/know how when setting up a car for
> > qualifying than we have in N2002. Even though there is a one engine
> > rule I believe teams are still tuning the engine differently for
> > qualifying and for the race so they still get a little more HP for a
> > qual run. In N2002 are qual setups are not going to be so dramtically
> > faster than our race setups, so drafting is even a bigger part of lap
> > times in N2002. A lot of times I can turn a faster race lap after
> > tires have heated up and I am behind someone during a race than I can
> > ever turn in Qualifying.
> > Brian Oster Remove NOSPAM from my email to reply.
I have a question for you guys. Do most of you drop down to 3rd gear in
all/some of the turns? I noticed in Jason and Carl's replays that they did.
I stay in 4th the whole lap. Dropping down to third seems like it could only
gain you an eventual mistake or even a blown engine.
David G Fisher
> --
> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spam>
> > Yes, you are right.
> > I did some more practice against the AI at 104% and managed to run below
> 55
> > using <fast> setup. Seeing how close Jason was to the inner side of the
> > corners really helped.
> > Replay here:
> > http://www30.brinkster.com/imola/pocono.htm :-)
> > (but I probably won't race at saturday...)
> > /Carl
> > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:20:22 +0200, "Carl Ribbegaardh"
> > > >On the other hand, the superspeedways are drafting tracks. There is
no
> > way
> > > >you can qualify as fast as when you draft.
> > > >On all other tracks, you will be faster in qualify, since you can use
> > 100%
> > > >grille tape, and the draft isn't really needed because of the lower
top
> > > >speed combined with an unrestricted engine.
> > > Not at Pocono. Drafting is big at Pocono.
> > > In real life Qual speeds are a lot faster than race speeds because the
> > > Cup guys have a lot more tweaks/know how when setting up a car for
> > > qualifying than we have in N2002. Even though there is a one engine
> > > rule I believe teams are still tuning the engine differently for
> > > qualifying and for the race so they still get a little more HP for a
> > > qual run. In N2002 are qual setups are not going to be so dramtically
> > > faster than our race setups, so drafting is even a bigger part of lap
> > > times in N2002. A lot of times I can turn a faster race lap after
> > > tires have heated up and I am behind someone during a race than I can
> > > ever turn in Qualifying.
> > > Brian Oster Remove NOSPAM from my email to reply.
Haven't blown an engine, etc. yet, and fwiw, that's what the big boys do.
-John
> I have a question for you guys. Do most of you drop down to 3rd gear in
> all/some of the turns? I noticed in Jason and Carl's replays that they
did.
> I stay in 4th the whole lap. Dropping down to third seems like it could
only
> gain you an eventual mistake or even a blown engine.
> David G Fisher
> > I've just run 15 laps at Pocono in a testing session using the default
> fast
> > setup. Best time was a 55.325. I'd hope with a draft I could get a low
55
> or
> > maybe edge into a high 54.
> > --
> > Ian P
> > <email invalid due to spam>
message
> > > Yes, you are right.
> > > I did some more practice against the AI at 104% and managed to run
below
> > 55
> > > using <fast> setup. Seeing how close Jason was to the inner side of
the
> > > corners really helped.
> > > Replay here:
> > > http://www30.brinkster.com/imola/pocono.htm :-)
> > > (but I probably won't race at saturday...)
> > > /Carl
> > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:20:22 +0200, "Carl Ribbegaardh"
> > > > >On the other hand, the superspeedways are drafting tracks. There is
> no
> > > way
> > > > >you can qualify as fast as when you draft.
> > > > >On all other tracks, you will be faster in qualify, since you can
use
> > > 100%
> > > > >grille tape, and the draft isn't really needed because of the lower
> top
> > > > >speed combined with an unrestricted engine.
> > > > Not at Pocono. Drafting is big at Pocono.
> > > > In real life Qual speeds are a lot faster than race speeds because
the
> > > > Cup guys have a lot more tweaks/know how when setting up a car for
> > > > qualifying than we have in N2002. Even though there is a one engine
> > > > rule I believe teams are still tuning the engine differently for
> > > > qualifying and for the race so they still get a little more HP for a
> > > > qual run. In N2002 are qual setups are not going to be so
dramtically
> > > > faster than our race setups, so drafting is even a bigger part of
lap
> > > > times in N2002. A lot of times I can turn a faster race lap after
> > > > tires have heated up and I am behind someone during a race than I
can
> > > > ever turn in Qualifying.
> > > > Brian Oster Remove NOSPAM from my email to reply.
BTW, I ran a Papy Open race the other night. It was a fixed setup
race and 3rd and 4th gear were really seperated by a lot. I don't
think most of the other people there knew you were supposed to shift
at Pocono. I was able to run down the Leader after starting in last
place AND slowing to avoid all the lap 1 wrecks. When I got to him I
was easily able to pass him off T3... I think he was in 4th the whole
way around the track and it killed him
Brian Oster.
On Fri, 07 Jun 2002 01:18:02 GMT, "David G Fisher"
>I have a question for you guys. Do most of you drop down to 3rd gear in
>all/some of the turns? I noticed in Jason and Carl's replays that they did.
>I stay in 4th the whole lap. Dropping down to third seems like it could only
>gain you an eventual mistake or even a blown engine.
>David G Fisher
>> I've just run 15 laps at Pocono in a testing session using the default
>fast
>> setup. Best time was a 55.325. I'd hope with a draft I could get a low 55
>or
>> maybe edge into a high 54.
>> --
>> Ian P
>> <email invalid due to spam>
>> > Yes, you are right.
>> > I did some more practice against the AI at 104% and managed to run below
>> 55
>> > using <fast> setup. Seeing how close Jason was to the inner side of the
>> > corners really helped.
>> > Replay here:
>> > http://www30.brinkster.com/imola/pocono.htm :-)
>> > (but I probably won't race at saturday...)
>> > /Carl
>> > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:20:22 +0200, "Carl Ribbegaardh"
>> > > >On the other hand, the superspeedways are drafting tracks. There is
>no
>> > way
>> > > >you can qualify as fast as when you draft.
>> > > >On all other tracks, you will be faster in qualify, since you can use
>> > 100%
>> > > >grille tape, and the draft isn't really needed because of the lower
>top
>> > > >speed combined with an unrestricted engine.
>> > > Not at Pocono. Drafting is big at Pocono.
>> > > In real life Qual speeds are a lot faster than race speeds because the
>> > > Cup guys have a lot more tweaks/know how when setting up a car for
>> > > qualifying than we have in N2002. Even though there is a one engine
>> > > rule I believe teams are still tuning the engine differently for
>> > > qualifying and for the race so they still get a little more HP for a
>> > > qual run. In N2002 are qual setups are not going to be so dramtically
>> > > faster than our race setups, so drafting is even a bigger part of lap
>> > > times in N2002. A lot of times I can turn a faster race lap after
>> > > tires have heated up and I am behind someone during a race than I can
>> > > ever turn in Qualifying.
>> > > Brian Oster Remove NOSPAM from my email to reply.
-Larry
> >Those aren't while running the stock fast setup. That's his own setup.
> >At least I hope so! If he's running 50 flat with the stock fast setup,
not
> >only are we in trouble, but Richard Childress will be calling him first
> >thing in the morning :)
> >-Larry
> >> >I generally use the same braking/throttle points regardless of the
> >> >weather there. My fastest laps at 40 degrees are 54.6-8 using the
> >> >fixed setup and at 70 degrees somewhere in the 54.9-55.1 range.
> Read his last lind again, Larry...<g> He's still more than a second
faster
> than me with the SAME setup.
> His "low 50's" with his own setup probably means a 53 or so...
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I turned a couple of 55.5's this evening. Should be good enough :)
-Larry
David G Fisher
> BTW, I ran a Papy Open race the other night. It was a fixed setup
> race and 3rd and 4th gear were really seperated by a lot. I don't
> think most of the other people there knew you were supposed to shift
> at Pocono. I was able to run down the Leader after starting in last
> place AND slowing to avoid all the lap 1 wrecks. When I got to him I
> was easily able to pass him off T3... I think he was in 4th the whole
> way around the track and it killed him
> Brian Oster.
> On Fri, 07 Jun 2002 01:18:02 GMT, "David G Fisher"
> >I just did a 55.243 on lap 4 <ahem> :-) with the fast setup.
> >I have a question for you guys. Do most of you drop down to 3rd gear in
> >all/some of the turns? I noticed in Jason and Carl's replays that they
did.
> >I stay in 4th the whole lap. Dropping down to third seems like it could
only
> >gain you an eventual mistake or even a blown engine.
> >David G Fisher
> >> I've just run 15 laps at Pocono in a testing session using the default
> >fast
> >> setup. Best time was a 55.325. I'd hope with a draft I could get a low
55
> >or
> >> maybe edge into a high 54.
> >> --
> >> Ian P
> >> <email invalid due to spam>
message
> >> > Yes, you are right.
> >> > I did some more practice against the AI at 104% and managed to run
below
> >> 55
> >> > using <fast> setup. Seeing how close Jason was to the inner side of
the
> >> > corners really helped.
> >> > Replay here:
> >> > http://www30.brinkster.com/imola/pocono.htm :-)
> >> > (but I probably won't race at saturday...)
> >> > /Carl
> >> > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:20:22 +0200, "Carl Ribbegaardh"
> >> > > >On the other hand, the superspeedways are drafting tracks. There
is
> >no
> >> > way
> >> > > >you can qualify as fast as when you draft.
> >> > > >On all other tracks, you will be faster in qualify, since you can
use
> >> > 100%
> >> > > >grille tape, and the draft isn't really needed because of the
lower
> >top
> >> > > >speed combined with an unrestricted engine.
> >> > > Not at Pocono. Drafting is big at Pocono.
> >> > > In real life Qual speeds are a lot faster than race speeds because
the
> >> > > Cup guys have a lot more tweaks/know how when setting up a car for
> >> > > qualifying than we have in N2002. Even though there is a one
engine
> >> > > rule I believe teams are still tuning the engine differently for
> >> > > qualifying and for the race so they still get a little more HP for
a
> >> > > qual run. In N2002 are qual setups are not going to be so
dramtically
> >> > > faster than our race setups, so drafting is even a bigger part of
lap
> >> > > times in N2002. A lot of times I can turn a faster race lap after
> >> > > tires have heated up and I am behind someone during a race than I
can
> >> > > ever turn in Qualifying.
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