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> > Check out the times on the race results page from the first time we ran
> > Pocono. http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > David G Fisher

> 9th in *Practice*... 3rd in *Race*

> > Glad I looked :)

> Maybe look again?...   ;-)

> > -Larry

> > > Check out the times on the race results page from the first time we
ran
> > > Pocono. http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar/

> > > David G Fisher
> <snip>

> >I generally use the same braking/throttle points regardless of the
> >weather there.  My fastest laps at 40 degrees are 54.6-8 using the
> >fixed setup and at 70 degrees somewhere in the 54.9-55.1 range.  I
> >don't know what the temp/wind is like using realistic weather, but I'd
> >still aim for low 50's at the worst.

> Yow - I can't run those kinds of times.  I'm lucky to run a high 56...

> Eldred

> >  Where are you braking ?  If not using it, try the last sign on your
right,
> >as you approach the turn.

> T3?  Braking at the last sign on the right puts me into the wall.  I have
to
> brake at LEAST at the 2ns sign - preferably the 1st one...

> >  If you're talking about the tunnel turn,(t2, or t3-4, depending how you
> >look at Pocono), you shouldn't brake at all there, just let off slightly.

> I have to brake there, otherwise I can't make the turn.

> Eldred
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>>   Plus, hotlapping doesn't mean a whole lot vs. race conditions.

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> >>   Plus, hotlapping doesn't mean a whole lot vs. race conditions.

> Yep, because you're a lot faster in the race because of
> drafting.

> the manual states that you should try to get some laps under
> your belt before you start tweaking with the setups, and
> N2002rank is really not a hotlapping site because your fastest
> laps will usually be driven under race conditions, with a fast
> driver slightly ahead of you, pulling you around the track.

> I know it happened to me last night at Talladega ;-)

> So talking of "hotlapping" in N2002 is a bit strange, I think.

> Cheers,

> uwe

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> I also was having trouble getting much over 161.1's so I watched replays
of
> a practice race we had 2night of the fastest guys on a fixed practice
> server. They start braking at the 2nd marker in turns 1 & 3 & 5. For turns
1
> & 3 stay along the wall and brake lightly to about to the next marker then
> let off the brakes and drop the car into the banking, working it down by
the
> apex then back on the gas at the apex. In turn 5 brake harder at the
marker
> and try to keep the car in the dark pavement letting off the brake just
> before you turn and coast to the apex then get back on the gas.

> After about 15 laps of trying this I was able to get low 162's and in qual
> setup 162.396 or 55.42 seconds which would have been enough to put me on
the
> pole for the race I practiced with and reviewed.

> Here is the calculator link: http://www.mdube.com/stock2.html

> FatnSlo

> > Rats, your listed in time.  I record by speed :)

> > I guess I'll have to change that.

> > -Larry

> > > Check out the times on the race results page from the first time we
ran
> > > Pocono. http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar/

> > > David G Fisher

> > > > Since this is one of the tougher tracks for a lot of people (myself
> > > > included) :), I thought it might be useful to compare practice lap
> times
> > > so
> > > > we know where we all stand in preparation for Saturday.

> > > > Since it's a fixed setup, I don't see any secrets being won out of
> this
> > :)

> > > > I'll start.  I know these ain' that hot, but it's me right now :)

> > > > Every now and then, if I hit turn 3 right, I can get mid-160's.

> > > > My average laps are 159.8 to 160.  Those are my most consistent laps
> > right
> > > > now.

> > > > Where does that fit in with everyone else?

> > > > BTW... The fast setup for this track needs serious work.  There is
too
> > > much
> > > > camber in the right front, and it can cause the right front to lock
up
> > > > braking into turn 3 because it's so flat.  If you do that, you're
> > screwed
> > > > for that lap and may even have to come to a crawl to keep from
hitting
> > the
> > > > turn 4 wall.  Anything more than 1/2 braking will light it up.
Don't
> > > brake
> > > > late here!

> > > > Also, I personally feel that it needs the trackbar raised about 1/2"
> on
> > > the
> > > > right side for turn exits.

> > > > And, the fast setup doesn't use tape effectively.  There's not
enough
> of
> > > it.
> > > > Engine runs too cool.

> > > > The good thing about this setup is that it is fairly stable.

> > > > If the markers were bigger and easier to see, I think I could do a
LOT
> > > > better.

> > > > -Larry

>   If you're talking about the tunnel turn,(t2, or t3-4, depending how you
> look at Pocono), you shouldn't brake at all there, just let off slightly.

> -John

> > That's why I'm practicing, to adapt :)

> > I sure can't stomp the pedal.  The camber in the RF induces a lockup due
> to
> > the reduced tire patch.  Or so I figure...

> > -Larry

> > > > Since this is one of the tougher tracks for a lot of people (myself
> > > > included) :), I thought it might be useful to compare practice lap
> times
> > > so
> > > > we know where we all stand in preparation for Saturday.

> > > > Since it's a fixed setup, I don't see any secrets being won out of
> this
> > :)

> > > > I'll start.  I know these ain' that hot, but it's me right now :)

> > > > Every now and then, if I hit turn 3 right, I can get mid-160's.

> > > > My average laps are 159.8 to 160.  Those are my most consistent laps
> > right
> > > > now.

> > > > Where does that fit in with everyone else?

> > > > BTW... The fast setup for this track needs serious work.  There is
too
> > > much
> > > > camber in the right front, and it can cause the right front to lock
up
> > > > braking into turn 3 because it's so flat.  If you do that, you're
> > screwed
> > > > for that lap and may even have to come to a crawl to keep from
hitting
> > the
> > > > turn 4 wall.  Anything more than 1/2 braking will light it up.
Don't
> > > brake
> > > > late here!

> > > > Also, I personally feel that it needs the trackbar raised about 1/2"
> on
> > > the
> > > > right side for turn exits.

> > > > And, the fast setup doesn't use tape effectively.  There's not
enough
> of
> > > it.
> > > > Engine runs too cool.

> > > > The good thing about this setup is that it is fairly stable.

> > > > If the markers were bigger and easier to see, I think I could do a
LOT
> > > > better.

> > > > -Larry

> > >   Adapt to the setup, instead of vice versa, and you'll have more fun
:)
> > If
> > > by T3, you mean the last turn before the straight, you can stomp all
you
> > > want on the brakes there.........if you do it at the right time, fwiw.

> > >   Your times aren't bad.

> > > -John