I very much agree that RAS is very much GPL orientated but if you ignore
(despite how hard it actually is) posts that say things like "No other sim
ahs even come close to GPL in 2 years" then you can get on well.
Unfortunately hat cuts down the amount of posts quite a lot.
^^^^^
Right there Bruce...you answered Jan without knowing it. You think Dave K
is gonna
put out another open-wheel sim on his own, without Sierra's consent? You
think now
that Hasbro has Crammond locked up for 3 or 4 years, they are gonna let him
put out
whatever he wants? The West brothers will soon get a taste of corporate
pressure if
they don't get moving on WSC.
dave henrie
if these titles tank, no way any big publishing house is gonna gamble on a
"sim" sim...
for example....Did Janes' finish A-10 Warthog in the Flightsim genre? The
F/A 18 will
probably be the last of the single quality sims in that area as well. More
of the USAF(Need
for Speed) type sims will be made. And sure both the Flight and racing sims
will get better, but will they limited by failing to over-acheive.(gpl)
deh
B
That explains why you don't post in the flight-sim newsgroup anymore.
Dreamcast? You become an arcade weenie Ed? Say it ain't so. :-)
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Nos
If you looked through the previous posts you would have noticed I asked what
the hell gpl rank was as I havent played gpl since the last round of the
australian gpl championship last year. A championship which by the way I
scored 3 2nd places and qualified near the front fairly often, not bad for
somebody who had no time to practice and was very tierd after a hard days
work.
If racing gpl in an online league till 11pm on a worknight doesnt make me a
simracer then what the hell does? Your attempt to put me down by suggesting
I dont have the ability to lap in gpl is exactly the smart arse remark I was
refering too and doesnt do a hell of a lot for the general worth of this
newsgroup.
> > > : First off, Noone has yet tried the finished version of GP3
> > > : yet. Second, I can't really wait for next friday when I shall go home
> > > : from work early and directly to the store.
> > > You'd hope that _someone_ has or it's going to be really disappointing
> > > :-)
> > That thought has crossed my mind, yes. In fact, I will be pleasantly
> > surprised if it is in the store next friday, not because I don't
> > thrust the commercials telling it is the 28th, but more a lack of
> > faith in the Norwegian PC games distribution system :)
> Ah, you've had experience with BJ Electronics as well then ? :-)
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I've got MK4 for the PC. I expect it's ***compared to what your
playing on that Dreamcast.
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>Not at all Olav, you hit the nail right on the head in fact. All the games
>you mentioned (and which David mentions in another part of the thread) are
>very good, enjoyable racing racing games. They did not, however, advance the
>genre (much), which ultimately detracts from their long term appeal. Either
>GPL was way ahead of it's time (not so, IMO) or, like I said, having the
>technically most advanced game doesn't shift enough copies (it's not an
>argument in a sale), so no-one's very keen on risking a dollop of money on
>developing one.
>Jan.
JoH
> Err, no. But I talked to a friend of my flatmate yeterday who works at
> Ram&Rom and I asked him if he will have GP3 next friday. The answer :
> Haven't heard anything...
"GP3 ?, I think this has been delayed to some time this fall..."
"Uhm, no, I just saw the promo boxes when I was on vacation in th UK"
"Oh, ok then, then it must be in any day now...."
Yeah, well, thx a bunch
Beers and cheers
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> > Err, no. But I talked to a friend of my flatmate yeterday who works at
> > Ram&Rom and I asked him if he will have GP3 next friday. The answer :
> > Haven't heard anything...
> Same here, just got off the phone with BJ...
> "GP3 ?, I think this has been delayed to some time this fall..."
> "Uhm, no, I just saw the promo boxes when I was on vacation in th UK"
> "Oh, ok then, then it must be in any day now...."
> Yeah, well, thx a bunch
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> Well, in 8 days (say I will be in the store at 16.00 next friday, we
> have cleared the 200 hour mark :) we will find out. What sure is that
> there will be one sim-head there in the store asking, not taking No as a
> answer.
I'm allowed to hope aren't I, after all, BJ is just 30 mins from
here..... ?
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> > Well, in 8 days (say I will be in the store at 16.00 next friday, we
> > have cleared the 200 hour mark :) we will find out. What sure is that
> > there will be one sim-head there in the store asking, not taking No as a
> > answer.
> No need to, I just had a call back from BJ, they're expecting the GP3
> some time next week, which means that I should be selling them by
> Friday, maybe I'll get them a day or two early if this is a world wide
> release date and they want every shop to be ready for it....:-)
> I'm allowed to hope aren't I, after all, BJ is just 30 mins from
> here..... ?
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Firstly, I never said immersion and accessability are not important, just
that, since having experienced GPL, my priorities with reference to racing
sims have shifted. I am very concerned commercial pressure will serve to
diminish the effort put into what I now consider the make or break point of
a racing sim. I fear Geoff is lost to the cause already.
Secondly, I have grave doubts about both Geoff's motive and ability to
produce GP3, which I'm positive are not entirely unfounded. If he'd released
something in between (like the Win95 and 3D patches for ICR2) I might have
been more confident, but as it is his last game was produced on an obselete
platform, doesn't that worry you at all??
You speak of improvements in AI, atmosphere, etc... I'll grant you that,
over GP2. But apart from real changing weather I haven't read anything I
haven't seen in other games yet. You've been drinking too many "Duvels" to
Geoff's health my friend. ;-)
I never said "don't buy GP3", I said "don't buy GP3 just because it's by
Crammond". I have pointed out my concerns towards the title and urged people
to wait until some of us had a chance to play and comment on it. Like we're
fond of saying over here: if you want to dissuade me from this point of
view, you're going to have to get up earlier.
Jan.
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I am not about to read every post on the forum to get a well rounded idea of
a posters character, I just don't have the time. Sorry.
If you want to know what GPLRank is I suggest you follow your own advice and
read back through the group or any message by Uwe, it's in his sig.
GPLRank is a nice way to rekindle interest in GPL BTW... I suggest you find
out what yours is. I hereby permit you to shamelessly brag here if it's
better than mine. Just remember, if it's close, I'll be gunning for your
ass. ;-)
Jan.
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Andy
> MS
> > GPL won't hold a candle to WSC when it is released
> > Robert
> > > Absolutely agree,
> > > I love GPL but I also believe in terms of accessabilty it is deeply
> > > flawed (beta tester Alison Hine admits as much) as a 'game' I expect
> > > to enjoy GP3 more as a 'sim' I'll tell you on the 28th.
> > > The fact is as a father of a 3 year old and someone renovating an 18th
> > > centuary cottage I just cannot make enougth time to really enjoy GPL
> > > but I still can enjoy GP2 and F1 2000. The have accessability.
> > > Regards Mike
> > > >So much negative energy towards gp3 in this group made me start to
> belive
> > > >that I was one of very few who were looking forward to this game, yet
> the
> > > >poll at high gear has shown me the truth:
> > > >It'll be great. I'll buy it straight-away!: 61.16%
> > > >I think it'll be good, but I'll await the reviews: 25.97%
> > > >What's all the hype about? This can't be any good.: 3.00%
> > > >I don't like F1 Sims.: 1.50%
> > > >Got GPL, who needs anything else.: 7.94%
> > > >Grand Prix 3?!? Can you eat that?: .43%
> > > >Total Votes: 466
> > > >Could it be that the 7.94% that think gpl is the be all end all are
the
> > rude
> > > >smart mouthed people that post the most to this group? Some of the
> > negative
> > > >things written about gp3 are downright stupid.
Jan.
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