rec.autos.simulators

It'll be great. I'll buy it straight-away!: 61.16%

I think it'll be good, but I'll await the reviews: 25.97%

What's all the hype about? This can't be any good.: 3.00%

I don't like F1 Sims.: 1.50%

Got GPL, who needs anything else.: 7.94%

Grand Prix 3?!? Can you eat that?: .43%

Total Votes: 466

Could it be that the 7.94% that think gpl is the be all end all are the rude
smart mouthed people that post the most to this group? Some of the negative
things written about gp3 are downright stupid.

Im a huge gpl fan too, what I cant understand is why I can look at other
products objectovely compared to very vocal people here?? Whats up guys?

I love GPL but I also believe in terms of accessabilty it is deeply
flawed (beta tester Alison Hine admits as much) as a 'game' I expect
to enjoy GP3 more as a 'sim' I'll tell you on the 28th.

The fact is as a father of a 3 year old and someone renovating an 18th
centuary cottage I just cannot make enougth time to really enjoy GPL
but I still can enjoy GP2 and F1 2000.  The have accessability.

Regards Mike  

Robert

MS

Berno... Berno... <searches GPLRank> -Nope, not there. You're very lucky you
didn't call yourself a simracer. ;-)

For the record, there is also good reason for some of the negative comments
levelled at GP3. I, personally, expected a lot more from the next Geoff
Crammond sim than GP3 looks set to deliver, even if force feedback and
TCP/IP support were included (now you don't think the game getting bashed
here had anything to do with that, now do you?).

Jan./just perpetuating the stereotype.
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IMO, most of the vocal people are looking at Gp3 objectively (or at least at
the little we know about it) and it's the "it's by Crammond, so it's going
to be great"-brigade which has lost perspective and gets on it's high horse.

Jan./ just edging him on. ;-)
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Jan.
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There's absolutely no problem with GPL people preferring GPL.

There's only a problem with GPL people failing to recognise that
something THEY don't like might nevertheless be exactly that what is
*loved* by the other 99.5% of simracers. And failing to recognise that
these 99.5% might not all be dumb-12yearold-arcade-lovers after all.

So it's not: "GP3 is crap", but "nice, but I prefer GPL because we al
agree that that gives me more prestige, ego and r.a.s. credibility"
:-)

JoH

The difference between clicking on a "Yeah I want it now button" once
and discussing vapourware ad-nausum is huge.  We have very little to
discuss other than a couple of movies, some screen shots (most of
which have been around for ages) and a planned release date.  You may
find these topic engrossing but I suspect most other people have
better things to do (no offence intended!).  If you do a search with
Deja I am sure you will find plenty of discussion on carshaps,
weather, networking, computer requirements, AI, release dates, warez
versions, Geoff Crammond etc.  Once these topics have been dealt with
5 times people tend to lose interest a little.

Given the previous history of this group you may wish you have never
asked this question once GP3 is released.  One day you will D/L your
newsgroups and think "why the hell am I getting 1500 posts from a
group that averages 300?"  Simple, people will have something to
discuss.

Sure, there are some real GPL fanatics in here but that's fine, they
have every right to be passionate about the sim as do you for GP3,
these things cycle.  I recall similar post deriding the amount of N2
traffic not so long ago.....

Sit tight, your day in the sun will come!

Regards,
Anthony Bulloch

Do you have this weeks winning lotto numbers as well?!?!

AB

I really don't get this "gives me more prestige, ego and
r.a.s. credibility". I can't talk for other, but I guess many GPL
***s here including me is holding this game so high because: For
every sim I bought after GPL i've tried them for a while, and enjoyed
some of them a lot (SCGT, TOCA2 (until I got fed up with the MSFF
non-centering trouble), F1-2000 (specially after some mods)), but
history repeats itself and in the end I drive the Ring in the trusty old
Ferrari again. This "fact" is what I think drives many people here to
say the good old words "It has a lot of good sides, but no GPL". I
can't wait to try a sim that proves history wrong.

I'm probably missing the argument here, but what the heck...

--
Olav K. Malmin
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I am trying to safegard my future as a simracer. Because, at the end of the
day, how successfull a game is now dictates what type of games we get to
play in future. If technically cutting edge racing simulators fail to make
money they'll stop being made. With Crammond bowing out of the race a great
talent (who in the past was able to combine cutting edge with playability) a
great talent is lost to "pure" simracing. If publishers get the message they
don't have to "beat" GPL to make money (enough evidence already) they'll
stop trying and cut funds for people who are. Here's hoping for N4 and WSC
(and to some extend Nascar Heat), if they bomb we won't see a pure sim, ever
again.

The bar for racing simulations was moved nearly two years ago. The fact
developers and publisher have been getting away with ignoring that fact
saddens me.

Jan./BTW, Re: ego and credibility: touche!
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me and berno at least are going to appreciate, what will be undoubtedly be a
great game and the thousands of hours of effort that has gone into it.

Ash

| So much negative energy towards gp3 in this group made me start to belive
| that I was one of very few who were looking forward to this game, yet the
| poll at high gear has shown me the truth:
|
| It'll be great. I'll buy it straight-away!: 61.16%
|
| I think it'll be good, but I'll await the reviews: 25.97%
|
| What's all the hype about? This can't be any good.: 3.00%
|
| I don't like F1 Sims.: 1.50%
|
| Got GPL, who needs anything else.: 7.94%
|
| Grand Prix 3?!? Can you eat that?: .43%
|
| Total Votes: 466
|
| Could it be that the 7.94% that think gpl is the be all end all are the
rude
| smart mouthed people that post the most to this group? Some of the
negative
| things written about gp3 are downright stupid.
|
|