rec.autos.simulators

by **Andre Warring** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Can you mention some of the bugs you encountered? Played it for about
4 hours yesterday, not a single bug whatsoever...
I don;t agree with you saying it's the same thing as NFS4, it's much
better imho. The graphics are even better, car handling is much better
and more realistic than in NFS4, and the ability to buy new parts and
tweak the car adds greatly to the playability.
I never really liked NFS4, allthough it's a good arcade racer, I got
bored with it pretty soon. I think I will have fun with NFS5 for a
long time to come.

And it was a huge download :)

Andre

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:53:21 -0500, The Black Cat =^..^=

>An additional comment about NFS5 -- the version I got to review was an
>alpha and pretty buggy. This is probably the warez version as well.

>It also expires ten days after you install it. It would be a HUGE
>download considering what you get from it and I really wouldn't
>recommend it.

>If you liked NFS4, you'll like NFS5 -- it's pretty much the same thing
>with a few tweaks. Read my review linked in the note above -- it
>tells you what you need to know.

by **Andre Warring** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Thanks Jan :)

Andre

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:21:44 GMT, "Jan Verschueren"

>Well said Andre.

>I respect your opinion on (sim)racing games, so keep your thoughts coming!

>Jan.
>----

>> <snip>

by **Andre Warring** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I do think the warez version is the final version. Just read your
review, and all the bugs you described are not there in my version.
Also all the tracks are available in the warez version.

Andre

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:53:21 -0500, The Black Cat =^..^=

>An additional comment about NFS5 -- the version I got to review was an
>alpha and pretty buggy. This is probably the warez version as well.

>It also expires ten days after you install it. It would be a HUGE
>download considering what you get from it and I really wouldn't
>recommend it.

>If you liked NFS4, you'll like NFS5 -- it's pretty much the same thing
>with a few tweaks. Read my review linked in the note above -- it
>tells you what you need to know.

by **Todd Sorense** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I don't like it too much. I don't feel the speed. In fact, I can tell no
difference in speed driving one of the old cars at 80mph or one of the
faster ones at 140-150mph. It is awfully pretty though.

> Well ok then, a very short review of NFS5 (I have a league race at the
> Ring coming up in 10 minutes):

> It's NFS4 with (even) better graphics, much better physics (no GPL
> ofcourse), but in NFS5 you can even lose control of the car!

> Some very refreshing career modes: Become a test driver for Porsche,
> and make manouvres that you didn't even dare to dream of in Driver, or
> a Porsche history mode, earn money and upgrade to newer Porsche cars.

> The fps is absolutely stunning, with all details set to the max, on my
> PII 450 Voodoo II SLI it runs as beautiful as I could wish.

> Graphics are gorgeous as I said, driving at the Cote d'Azur (or how do
> you spell that) was stunning. Lots and lots of little details that
> give the game as a whole a very polished look.

> If you like NFS4, absolutely buy (that's b-u-y) this one, you won't be
> disappointed. I'm sure you'll agree with me on this one :)

> Andre

> >when you get the opportunity to test NFS5, please post your first
> >impressions like you did with F1-2000.
> >Although have to disagree with you about F1-2000 doesn't mean that I
don't
> >want to read your opinion. If you have read this newsgroup for a some
time,
> >you might remember that I once wrote a tiny review of the NFS4 class
> >release, and it was pretty positive. I still think it's a good game (not
a
> >sim). So keep those posts coming :o)

> >cheers,
> >Alex

by **Andre Warring** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Everybody his own opinion, but I disagree heavily with you here. In
the old 356, you indeed don't feel to much speed, but yesterday I
drove a Boxter through heavy traffic, followed by cops who are much
smarter now than in NFS4, and I had quite some scary moments,
definately a feeling of speed!
Don't forget to upgrade your car in career mode, that also speeds up
the car quite a lot.

Andre

>I don't like it too much. I don't feel the speed. In fact, I can tell no
>difference in speed driving one of the old cars at 80mph or one of the
>faster ones at 140-150mph. It is awfully pretty though.

>> Well ok then, a very short review of NFS5 (I have a league race at the
>> Ring coming up in 10 minutes):

>> It's NFS4 with (even) better graphics, much better physics (no GPL
>> ofcourse), but in NFS5 you can even lose control of the car!

>> Some very refreshing career modes: Become a test driver for Porsche,
>> and make manouvres that you didn't even dare to dream of in Driver, or
>> a Porsche history mode, earn money and upgrade to newer Porsche cars.

>> The fps is absolutely stunning, with all details set to the max, on my
>> PII 450 Voodoo II SLI it runs as beautiful as I could wish.

>> Graphics are gorgeous as I said, driving at the Cote d'Azur (or how do
>> you spell that) was stunning. Lots and lots of little details that
>> give the game as a whole a very polished look.

>> If you like NFS4, absolutely buy (that's b-u-y) this one, you won't be
>> disappointed. I'm sure you'll agree with me on this one :)

>> Andre

by **don hodgdo** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Andre, this is a bit off the topic, but I was really interested in how this
title looks and sounds. I'm not a big fan of the NFS series, but I drove a
356 for many years (356A Coupe), and the idea of having one to play with on
the computer is intriguing, although if it doesn't sound right or if the
dash isn't correct, then I'll pass.

--
don

"Getting hit by a meteorite is an accident...
everything else is driver-error."

by **rrevve** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

>Andre, this is a bit off the topic, but I was really interested in how this
>title looks and sounds. I'm not a big fan of the NFS series, but I drove a
>356 for many years (356A Coupe), and the idea of having one to play with on
>the computer is intriguing, although if it doesn't sound right or if the
>dash isn't correct, then I'll pass.

Dash is pretty darn realistic for each car and the engine sound,
particularly exterior sound, is *perfect*.

I owned a '53 356 , and have driven a lot of them through the
years including a lot of time in my son-in-law's twin-turbo 930 .. :)

The only problem is that the sense of speed is somewhat low. Other
than that, this is a GAW-GEOUS title and a steal for $29.99 at
www.ebworld.com .

BTW, the driving physics, while not perfect are a *lot* better
than the previous NFS titles. The AI is also much better and
no longer swerves back and forth to keep you from passing.

The cars are beautiful and the tracks are beautiful. The only
let-down for me is the piss-poor (IMO) rave / hiphop music.
I think you can play your own CD's with it though.

If you like Porsches, as I do, my advice would be to pre-order it
real quick. It will ship next week.

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by **Andre Warring** » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Well, couldn't have said it better actually. But rrevved, you are the
second one to mention that the feeling of speed is too slow.
I noticed that, just as in most driving games, when driving with the
bumper cam you have a real sense of speed (go get that Boxster and
drive through heavy traffic), but from the dash view the speed looks
much slower.
I don't like the dashview by the way. In a real Porsche, your head
surely must stick out above the wheel? In NFS5 half of the screen is
filled with the dash!

Turning the music off was one of the first things I did by the way.

Andre

>>Andre, this is a bit off the topic, but I was really interested in how this
>>title looks and sounds. I'm not a big fan of the NFS series, but I drove a
>>356 for many years (356A Coupe), and the idea of having one to play with on
>>the computer is intriguing, although if it doesn't sound right or if the
>>dash isn't correct, then I'll pass.

>Dash is pretty darn realistic for each car and the engine sound,
>particularly exterior sound, is *perfect*.

>I owned a '53 356 , and have driven a lot of them through the
>years including a lot of time in my son-in-law's twin-turbo 930 .. :)

>The only problem is that the sense of speed is somewhat low. Other
>than that, this is a GAW-GEOUS title and a steal for $29.99 at
>www.ebworld.com .

>BTW, the driving physics, while not perfect are a *lot* better
>than the previous NFS titles. The AI is also much better and
>no longer swerves back and forth to keep you from passing.

>The cars are beautiful and the tracks are beautiful. The only
>let-down for me is the piss-poor (IMO) rave / hiphop music.
>I think you can play your own CD's with it though.

>If you like Porsches, as I do, my advice would be to pre-order it
>real quick. It will ship next week.

by **Cliff Roma** » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Yes, it seems like too many games want to prove to you that they can give
you a realistic looking dash, so they take up half the screen showing it to
you. I guess they think that we will be "Oh, Wow, realistic looking dash,
now I feel like I am driving a real car". I am like you and I would rather
have just a little bit of the dash showing down at the bottom of the screen.
After all, when I am driving my real car, I do not even notice my dash
unless I specifically look down at it.

> I don't like the dashview by the way. In a real Porsche, your head
> surely must stick out above the wheel? In NFS5 half of the screen is
> filled with the dash!

> Turning the music off was one of the first things I did by the way.

> Andre

> >On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:07:11 -0800, "don hodgdon"

> >>Andre, this is a bit off the topic, but I was really interested in how
this
> >>title looks and sounds. I'm not a big fan of the NFS series, but I drove
a
> >>356 for many years (356A Coupe), and the idea of having one to play with
on
> >>the computer is intriguing, although if it doesn't sound right or if the
> >>dash isn't correct, then I'll pass.

> >Dash is pretty darn realistic for each car and the engine sound,
> >particularly exterior sound, is *perfect*.

> >I owned a '53 356 , and have driven a lot of them through the
> >years including a lot of time in my son-in-law's twin-turbo 930 .. :)

> >The only problem is that the sense of speed is somewhat low. Other
> >than that, this is a GAW-GEOUS title and a steal for $29.99 at
> >www.ebworld.com .

> >BTW, the driving physics, while not perfect are a *lot* better
> >than the previous NFS titles. The AI is also much better and
> >no longer swerves back and forth to keep you from passing.

> >The cars are beautiful and the tracks are beautiful. The only
> >let-down for me is the piss-poor (IMO) rave / hiphop music.
> >I think you can play your own CD's with it though.

> >If you like Porsches, as I do, my advice would be to pre-order it
> >real quick. It will ship next week.

by Ma » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Wait till you drive the GT1, you will ***your pants with the speed
rush... If you get a multiplayer game going, the GT1 is selectable..

by **Don Scurlo** » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I think they do it because it's an easy way to get the frame rate up,
by filling large areas of screen with static dash instead of moving
graphics. If it's no gpl physics wise then how does it compare to
Viper Racing ?

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

by **jbo..** » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

FYI, the dash is NOT static, and, like in most games, you suffer a
frame rate hit when you use the dash view, versus using the "bumper
cam" view. The dash overlay almost ALWAYS gives you more overhead,
rather than less, which is why the "bumper cam" view is usually best
for people with mid-to-low-range machines and/or graphics cards.

As for the physics, imagine if you took the Viper Racing physics, added
NFS-type tracks, and then modeled Porsches . . . get the picture? <G>

Also FWIW, I feel bold enough to say that NFSPU may do as good of a job
modeling the various types of Porsches as GPL does modeling the various
types of 1967 GP machines -- it feels THAT good, based on my recent
brief encounter (it definitely feels close to Viper Racing in the
physics department, if not an out-and-out equal, IMO).

Thankfully, I get paid before NFSPU will be hittnig the shelves . . .
and EA has TRULY earned my $$ this time out, I believe! <G>

-- JB

> I think they do it because it's an easy way to get the frame rate up,
> by filling large areas of screen with static dash instead of moving
> graphics. If it's no gpl physics wise then how does it compare to
> Viper Racing ?

> >Yes, it seems like too many games want to prove to you that they can
> >give you a realistic looking dash, so they take up half the screen
> >showing it to you. I guess they think that we will be "Oh, Wow,
> >realistic looking dash, now I feel like I am driving a real car". >

> --
> Don Scurlock
> Vancouver,B.C.

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by **rrevve** » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

>As for the physics, imagine if you took the Viper Racing physics, added
>NFS-type tracks, and then modeled Porsches . . . get the picture? <G>

>Also FWIW, I feel bold enough to say that NFSPU may do as good of a job
>modeling the various types of Porsches as GPL does modeling the various
>types of 1967 GP machines -- it feels THAT good,

John, thanks for saying that! I was going to do the same thing
but I figured I would be slapped around mercilessly by the
more ***newsgroupies.. ;)

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by Ro » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

>Also FWIW, I feel bold enough to say that NFSPU may do as good of a job
>modeling the various types of Porsches as GPL does modeling the various
>types of 1967 GP machines -- it feels THAT good, based on my recent
>brief encounter (it definitely feels close to Viper Racing in the
>physics department, if not an out-and-out equal, IMO).

Looks like I'll be picking this one up instead of F1-2000.

Just a few questions if I may...?

The career mode (?) where you earn money and upgrade your car/purchase
new ones, from what I read, the tracks are more point to point rather
than circuit. Is it a who can get from A to B the quickest earns the
$$'s kind of deal?

How extensive are the upgrades available for each model?

Do they have any tracks at all? Call me old fashioned, but I like to
race numerous laps on a circuit rather than through countryside...

The graphic comparisons between F1-2000 and SBK2000 have seriously put
me off buying this, I still get a WOW factor racing Monza on a
Superbike, the graphics are STUNNING, the movies I've seen of NFS5
also give me a slight woody.

Last 2 purchases have been EA sports purchases.. SBK2000 and Tiger
Woods 2000, should I expect some sort of metamorphis if I pick up NFS
this Friday? Is this truly the end for me?!

Cheers,
Rod.

by **Todd Sorense** » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I tried the bumper cam setting and you are correct. I get a much greater
sensation of speed with this view as opposed to the dashboard view. After
messing around with this game a little more, I find myself liking it better.

> Well, couldn't have said it better actually. But rrevved, you are the
> second one to mention that the feeling of speed is too slow.
> I noticed that, just as in most driving games, when driving with the
> bumper cam you have a real sense of speed (go get that Boxster and
> drive through heavy traffic), but from the dash view the speed looks
> much slower.
> I don't like the dashview by the way. In a real Porsche, your head
> surely must stick out above the wheel? In NFS5 half of the screen is
> filled with the dash!

> Turning the music off was one of the first things I did by the way.

> Andre

> >On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:07:11 -0800, "don hodgdon"

> >>Andre, this is a bit off the topic, but I was really interested in how
this
> >>title looks and sounds. I'm not a big fan of the NFS series, but I drove
a
> >>356 for many years (356A Coupe), and the idea of having one to play with
on
> >>the computer is intriguing, although if it doesn't sound right or if the
> >>dash isn't correct, then I'll pass.

> >Dash is pretty darn realistic for each car and the engine sound,
> >particularly exterior sound, is *perfect*.

> >I owned a '53 356 , and have driven a lot of them through the
> >years including a lot of time in my son-in-law's twin-turbo 930 .. :)

> >The only problem is that the sense of speed is somewhat low. Other
> >than that, this is a GAW-GEOUS title and a steal for $29.99 at
> >www.ebworld.com .

> >BTW, the driving physics, while not perfect are a *lot* better
> >than the previous NFS titles. The AI is also much better and
> >no longer swerves back and forth to keep you from passing.

> >The cars are beautiful and the tracks are beautiful. The only
> >let-down for me is the piss-poor (IMO) rave / hiphop music.
> >I think you can play your own CD's with it though.

> >If you like Porsches, as I do, my advice would be to pre-order it
> >real quick. It will ship next week.

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