rec.autos.simulators

>> Here's how I take Stavelot for what it's worth - Just before the car
>> hits the darker groove at the turn in point, lift off almost completely
>> and shift down two gears straight away.  Keep the car aimed well to the
>> right of the groove the whole time to avoid another close encounter
>> with that hay bail!. Keep the throttle quite low and let the revs keep
>> dropping and dropping until you get in between the two white brick
>> walls on either side.  Roughly half way between the start and end of
>> the white brick wall, floor the throttle and let the car drift wide on
>> the exit.

>I am glad I was not following you in Stavelot ;> I start to turn-in
>still going full throttle just before the darker groove begins,
>few moments later I start slowly release throttle trying to do it
>very gradually so I'll reach about 30% throttle just before brick
>walls start. I shift down twice when the revs are right (to 4th
>soon after the hay, to 3rd almost at the wall). The I stabilize the
>car and slowly start to accelerate.

> >they will show you the breaking points, lines, shifting etc.

> Man, when it comes to me and Spa, I know ALL the breaking points!
> Don't know how my mechanics can repair her so quickly :)

> Rafe Mc

>That's got to be target fixation Eldred. There is absolutely no need to
>brake for Stavelot. It's just a matter of turning in early and low into the
>turn, scrubbing speed all the way as you drift back up the track and go down
>two gears (perhaps a quick dab with the left foot here to make sure one
>misses the hedges). Then cutting back down for the apex and booting it back
>up the hill

>Perhaps you'd be better off just coasting it in (foot completely off
>accellerator), banging it down two gears at the apex and accellerating back
>out.

> Spa is all about speed in long straights. You must carry as much speed as
> possible out of all corners, as they normally connect to long straights,
> where u can make or lose seconds. Work on your driving line and try to
make
> exits as smooth as possible. Gearing is also important here. I'd recommend
> Roland E setups.. they are much easier to drive fast then GHs.. and
> ultimately I find them even faster if really pushed. And dont overdo it at
> Masta- better brake earlier and start accelerating sooner to carry speed
> down the following straight. If u dont believe me, watch your replay to
> someone else's with Replay Analyser. Oh and one more thing.. practise :-)

> > > ...it seems pretty easy to lots of people

> > It isn't.

> > > anyone have ideas for setups, techniques, tricks etc?

> > Practice.

> > > I prefer the Lotus or Ferrari.........

> > Drive the car you're comfortable with. If you look at GPLRank, the very
> > fastest can crack 3:20 in any car. Top speed is clearly not the secret.

> > --Jeff
> > +14.22

> > > Man I have d/l'd replays etc and seem right on the edge while
hotlapping
> > but
> > > cannot get near a 3:20 at Spa...(picked that number as a
> goal)....looking
> > > note the majority use the eagle..I assume for its BHP at high rpm's,
but
> > > that car is unstable to my style at that track.... anyone have ideas
for
> > > setups, techniques, tricks etc? I prefer the Lotus or
> Ferrari.........cmon
> > > aliens reveal your secrets!
> > > Thanks for any help
> > > --
> > > Greg31
> > > +80.30

> Thanks
> MP

> > Spa is all about speed in long straights. You must carry as much speed
as
> > possible out of all corners, as they normally connect to long straights,
> > where u can make or lose seconds. Work on your driving line and try to
> make
> > exits as smooth as possible. Gearing is also important here. I'd
recommend
> > Roland E setups.. they are much easier to drive fast then GHs.. and
> > ultimately I find them even faster if really pushed. And dont overdo it
at
> > Masta- better brake earlier and start accelerating sooner to carry speed
> > down the following straight. If u dont believe me, watch your replay to
> > someone else's with Replay Analyser. Oh and one more thing.. practise
:-)

> > > > ...it seems pretty easy to lots of people

> > > It isn't.

> > > > anyone have ideas for setups, techniques, tricks etc?

> > > Practice.

> > > > I prefer the Lotus or Ferrari.........

> > > Drive the car you're comfortable with. If you look at GPLRank, the
very
> > > fastest can crack 3:20 in any car. Top speed is clearly not the
secret.

> > > --Jeff
> > > +14.22

> > > > Man I have d/l'd replays etc and seem right on the edge while
> hotlapping
> > > but
> > > > cannot get near a 3:20 at Spa...(picked that number as a
> > goal)....looking
> > > > note the majority use the eagle..I assume for its BHP at high rpm's,
> but
> > > > that car is unstable to my style at that track.... anyone have ideas
> for
> > > > setups, techniques, tricks etc? I prefer the Lotus or
> > Ferrari.........cmon
> > > > aliens reveal your secrets!
> > > > Thanks for any help
> > > > --
> > > > Greg31
> > > > +80.30

>Should I have said "unless you're following Eldred..."? <vbg>

>Seriously, after looking through my replay archive and finding no lap I was
>happy with, I decided I'd do a couple of laps to get a good example of
>Stavelot. Broke the 2nd repair I made to my downshift paddle on my first
>attempt, fixed that (even more solid fix now) and went back. Did a pretty
>decent lap, a new PB in fact. Ok, I've done better at Haute de la Cote,
>entry to Cottages and Blanchimont on other laps, but at 3m21.24s I'll take
>it.

>Anyway, here' how I drive Stavelot most of the time...

> Ok, thanks - I'll check it out.  Although something seems to be wrong with my
> wheel.  I can't control the car anymore - it screwed me up in league races last
> night and this morning... :(