rec.autos.simulators

by **Robert Upwar** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 22:23:02

I picked up N4 about 6 months ago and I'm now giving up on it. No
matter how long I practice, I never saw any huge change in my enjoyment
level. I got a little faster, but I just had to work harder behind the
wheel. I'm sure that N4 is very realistic, although I've never driven a
stock car. The real problem is that the sim is just not as much fun as N3
was (or N99/2, N1 or ICR2 for that matter). I realise that N4 is a sim, but
shouldn't it be fun as well?

Rob

by **Andre Warrin** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 22:37:36

On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 13:23:02 GMT, "Robert Upward"

> I picked up N4 about 6 months ago and I'm now giving up on it. No
>matter how long I practice, I never saw any huge change in my enjoyment
>level. I got a little faster, but I just had to work harder behind the
>wheel. I'm sure that N4 is very realistic, although I've never driven a
>stock car. The real problem is that the sim is just not as much fun as N3
>was (or N99/2, N1 or ICR2 for that matter). I realise that N4 is a sim, but
>shouldn't it be fun as well?

>Rob

Try the N2002 demo.. I never liked N4 but I love N2002, the handling
of the car is much better in N2002.
And yes, racing with 43 cars on the Coca Cola oval is FUN :)

Andre

by **Douglas Elliso** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 22:38:49

I find this with all of the short ovals.

'tona, 'dega, Sears, Watkins and the addon road courses are fun - but every
other track ( dover, darlington, etc etc etc et-***y-c) drive me NUTS - I
cant STAND them no matter how much I try and enjoy them.

Doug

by **Olly Greenfiel** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 23:08:03

I think that roadcourses are just alot more fun anyways. It's not so much a
shortcoming of N4 as it is of Nascar itself, IMHO.

> I find this with all of the short ovals.

> 'tona, 'dega, Sears, Watkins and the addon road courses are fun - but
every
> other track ( dover, darlington, etc etc etc et-***y-c) drive me NUTS -
I
> cant STAND them no matter how much I try and enjoy them.

> Doug

> > I picked up N4 about 6 months ago and I'm now giving up on it. No
> > matter how long I practice, I never saw any huge change in my enjoyment
> > level. I got a little faster, but I just had to work harder behind the
> > wheel. I'm sure that N4 is very realistic, although I've never driven a
> > stock car. The real problem is that the sim is just not as much fun as
N3
> > was (or N99/2, N1 or ICR2 for that matter). I realise that N4 is a sim,
> but
> > shouldn't it be fun as well?

> > Rob

by **Olav K. Malm** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 23:08:32

> I find this with all of the short ovals.

> 'tona, 'dega, Sears, Watkins and the addon road courses are fun - but every
> other track ( dover, darlington, etc etc etc et-***y-c) drive me NUTS - I
> cant STAND them no matter how much I try and enjoy them.

Agree a bit on that. However, during our GPL league offseason we
played N4 online and found Martinsville to be a very funny
track. Dragrace-brake-turn-dragrace and so on. I won a race with a 1
inch margin there :)

--
Olav K. Malmin
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by **MadDAW** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 23:18:06

More fun to drive, but a bore to watch. NASCAR is about close racing, not
about follow the leader.

MadDAWG

by **MadDAW** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 23:18:54

Now you are starting to get it!

MadDAWG

by **Douglas Elliso** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 23:45:55

I refer to Martinsville as more of a complete farce than a race track

Doug

by **Schoone** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 23:52:56

If you don't like NASCAR style racing then don't play it.
I find it amusing the number of people that complain about NASCAR sims being
all ovals, what did you expect?
It would be like watching an F1 race and expecting it to be competitive :)

> I refer to Martinsville as more of a complete farce than a race track

> Doug

> > >I won a race with a 1 inch margin there :)

> > > --
> > > Olav K. Malmin
> > > remove .spam when replying

> > Now you are starting to get it!

> > MadDAWG

by **Douglas Elliso** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 23:56:46

I'm saying 90% of Nascar's shit.

I'm happy with the other 10% thanks

Doug

by **Pete** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:30:38

Bristol,with realistic setup=thats FUN ;)

pete

> I find this with all of the short ovals.

> 'tona, 'dega, Sears, Watkins and the addon road courses are fun - but
every
> other track ( dover, darlington, etc etc etc et-***y-c) drive me NUTS -
I
> cant STAND them no matter how much I try and enjoy them.

> Doug

> > I picked up N4 about 6 months ago and I'm now giving up on it. No
> > matter how long I practice, I never saw any huge change in my enjoyment
> > level. I got a little faster, but I just had to work harder behind the
> > wheel. I'm sure that N4 is very realistic, although I've never driven a
> > stock car. The real problem is that the sim is just not as much fun as
N3
> > was (or N99/2, N1 or ICR2 for that matter). I realise that N4 is a sim,
> but
> > shouldn't it be fun as well?

> > Rob

by **Mike Grand** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:33:49

I guess it depends on what type or racing you grew up with and enjoy. I
enjoy a good roadcourse and would love to see NASCAR use more road course
but believe it or not, the ovals draw a much larger crowd, at least it seems
like they do.

> I think that roadcourses are just alot more fun anyways. It's not so much
a
> shortcoming of N4 as it is of Nascar itself, IMHO.

> > I find this with all of the short ovals.

> > 'tona, 'dega, Sears, Watkins and the addon road courses are fun - but
> every
> > other track ( dover, darlington, etc etc etc et-***y-c) drive me
NUTS -
> I
> > cant STAND them no matter how much I try and enjoy them.

> > Doug

> > > I picked up N4 about 6 months ago and I'm now giving up on it. No
> > > matter how long I practice, I never saw any huge change in my
enjoyment
> > > level. I got a little faster, but I just had to work harder behind
the
> > > wheel. I'm sure that N4 is very realistic, although I've never driven
a
> > > stock car. The real problem is that the sim is just not as much fun
as
> N3
> > > was (or N99/2, N1 or ICR2 for that matter). I realise that N4 is a
sim,
> > but
> > > shouldn't it be fun as well?

> > > Rob

by **Mike Grand** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:43:24

Of course that just your opinion. I found it amusing to watch the F1 race in
Australia last weekend. What do people get out of 1 big wreck in turn 1 and
then 1 car runs away from the rest of the field. I enjoy all types of
racing, even F1 but realistically it's not very entertaining for fans.

> > If you don't like NASCAR style racing then don't play it.
> > I find it amusing the number of people that complain about NASCAR sims
> being
> > all ovals, what did you expect?
> > It would be like watching an F1 race and expecting it to be competitive
:)

> I'm saying 90% of Nascar's shit.

> I'm happy with the other 10% thanks

> Doug

by **Douglas Elliso** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:56:30

Nor's 40 tanks trundling round a half mile of concrete - but they badge it
nascar and people watch it.

Obviosuly - thats just my opinion

Doug

> Of course that just your opinion. I found it amusing to watch the F1 race
in
> Australia last weekend. What do people get out of 1 big wreck in turn 1
and
> then 1 car runs away from the rest of the field. I enjoy all types of
> racing, even F1 but realistically it's not very entertaining for fans.

> > > If you don't like NASCAR style racing then don't play it.
> > > I find it amusing the number of people that complain about NASCAR sims
> > being
> > > all ovals, what did you expect?
> > > It would be like watching an F1 race and expecting it to be
competitive
> :)

> > I'm saying 90% of Nascar's shit.

> > I'm happy with the other 10% thanks

> > Doug

by **Mike Grand** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:03:24

Obviously. (-:

> Nor's 40 tanks trundling round a half mile of concrete - but they badge it
> nascar and people watch it.

> Obviosuly - thats just my opinion

> Doug

> > Of course that just your opinion. I found it amusing to watch the F1
race
> in
> > Australia last weekend. What do people get out of 1 big wreck in turn 1
> and
> > then 1 car runs away from the rest of the field. I enjoy all types of
> > racing, even F1 but realistically it's not very entertaining for fans.

> > > > If you don't like NASCAR style racing then don't play it.
> > > > I find it amusing the number of people that complain about NASCAR
sims
> > > being
> > > > all ovals, what did you expect?
> > > > It would be like watching an F1 race and expecting it to be
> competitive
> > :)

> > > I'm saying 90% of Nascar's shit.

> > > I'm happy with the other 10% thanks

> > > Doug

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