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OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

Morris Jone

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Morris Jone » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 12:23:00

What motherboards support this, my system is only 6 months old and only
shows being a 4x, the latest Alienware system using the Asus P4 motherboard
is only 4x?  Don't you need 8x for the new FX or 9700
Michael Basde

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Michael Basde » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 12:29:39

Don't need it, since they are AGP 1x, 2x, and 4x, compatible...but it sure
is nice!


WillyB41

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by WillyB41 » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 12:36:20

ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP.

Bill Berry

frederickso

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by frederickso » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 15:34:37

8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful


Tim Mise

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Tim Mise » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:06:37

For the AMD platform, any Nforce2, KT400, or SIS 648/746 based motherboards
support AGP 8X.

-Tim


Michael Basde

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Michael Basde » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:43:50


Except double the bandwidth to your video card...

What kind of generic comment is that?!  Please qualify your statement.

I'm running a 9700 Pro on 8x and when I switch it to 4x I see a noticable
difference in performance.

Michael Basde

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Michael Basde » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:44:49


Have you tried it yourself?  I'm running a 9700 Pro on 8x and when I switch
it to 4x I see a noticable difference in performance.

Don Jacob

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Don Jacob » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 06:37:07

I believe you, but would also like to know why it does not help.  Could you
post a little explanation or maybe a link with some info about 8x AGP.

> 8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful



> > ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP.

> > Bill Berry

frederickso

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by frederickso » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 10:20:55

I think i read it on tomshardware.com but i dont have the specific link but
im pretty sure its just marketing hype, and you wont see any improvement
with it.


> I believe you, but would also like to know why it does not help.  Could
you
> post a little explanation or maybe a link with some info about 8x AGP.


> > 8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful



> > > ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP.

> > > Bill Berry

Dave Henri

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Dave Henri » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:39:31

Dalek
   yeah, which way is the difference?  IS 8x faster or is 8x slower?  
either way is a noticeable difference right?
dave henrie
Larr

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Larr » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:00:42

I have yet to read a technical review that shows ANY benifit to 8x AGP.

Until textures get so big that they won't fit in our graphics boards any
longer, the AGP transfer rate will remain just a marketing point.

Maybe some day...

Larry


> I think i read it on tomshardware.com but i dont have the specific link
but
> im pretty sure its just marketing hype, and you wont see any improvement
> with it.



> > I believe you, but would also like to know why it does not help.  Could
> you
> > post a little explanation or maybe a link with some info about 8x AGP.


> > > 8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful



> > > > ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP.

> > > > Bill Berry

Magnus Svensso

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Magnus Svensso » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 19:12:33


>I have yet to read a technical review that shows ANY benifit to 8x AGP.

>Until textures get so big that they won't fit in our graphics boards any
>longer, the AGP transfer rate will remain just a marketing point.

>Maybe some day...

APG Texturing(DIME) died with the Riva128. The absolute main issue
with regards to the graphics card bus is geometry throughout. A 2X
port can already be easily saturated with vertex information. It's
only a matter of time until the 4X AGP is a bottleneck, if it isn't
already. The GFFX pushes twice the number of polygons as the 9700! And
the 9700 pushes almost three times as many as a GF3!
Michael Basde

OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

by Michael Basde » Tue, 04 Feb 2003 04:23:32

3DMark2001SE

8x 14617
4x 12843



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